Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Patty, I'm sure Molly can answer the question . . . I don't think recovering after explant is going to rise to the level of proof that the courts demand . .. It may be proof to us, but the legal system is so screwed that black becomes white. Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 If you are talking about proving a systemic connection - nope, that isn't enough. > > Patty, > > I'm sure Molly can answer the question . . . I don't think recovering after explant is going to rise to the level of proof that the courts demand . .. It may be proof to us, but the legal system is so screwed that black becomes white. > > Rogene > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 Nope, just proving that removing implants helps women get better, even when the doctors are telling them it's not the implants. We have lots of proof of that. My hope is that by proving that women are getting better ( and we know that it is happening because of the many stories on this group) that we can stop doctors from claiming that it's not the implants, when it clearly IS. PattyMolly Bloom <mollyb54@...> wrote: If you are talking about proving a systemic connection - nope, that isn't enough.>> Patty,> > I'm sure Molly can answer the question . . . I don't think recovering after explant is going to rise to the level of proof that the courts demand . .. It may be proof to us, but the legal system is so screwed that black becomes white.> > Rogene> __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 I hope so too, Patty. > > > > Patty, > > > > I'm sure Molly can answer the question . . . I don't think recovering after explant is going > to rise to the level of proof that the courts demand . .. It may be proof to us, but the legal > system is so screwed that black becomes white. > > > > Rogene > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 I hope so too, Patty. > > > > Patty, > > > > I'm sure Molly can answer the question . . . I don't think recovering after explant is going > to rise to the level of proof that the courts demand . .. It may be proof to us, but the legal > system is so screwed that black becomes white. > > > > Rogene > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 Patty, That women get much better after removing their implants SHOULD be proof . . but, a scientific sense, it's not. I wish it was! . .. Rogene Tricia Trish <glory2glory1401@...> wrote: Nope, just proving that removing implants helps women get better, even when the doctors are telling them it's not the implants. We have lots of proof of that. My hope is that by proving that women are getting better ( and we know that it is happening because of the many stories on this group) that we can stop doctors from claiming that it's not the implants, when it clearly IS. PattyMolly Bloom <mollyb54bellsouth (DOT) net> wrote: If you are talking about proving a systemic connection - nope, that isn't enough.>> Patty,> > I'm sure Molly can answer the question . . . I don't think recovering after explant is going to rise to the level of proof that the courts demand . .. It may be proof to us, but the legal system is so screwed that black becomes white.> > Rogene> __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 You know what, though....why should there even be scientific proof needed to show that removing the implants helps women get better? Isn't women's testimony enough? If a woman does not get the kind of help she needs to get her health back because doctors are telling her it's not the implants, and yet women are getting their health back with implant removal, shouldn't those doctors be held accountable for sidetracking women from getting help? PattyRogene S <saxony01@...> wrote: Patty, That women get much better after removing their implants SHOULD be proof . . but, a scientific sense, it's not. I wish it was! . .. Rogene Tricia Trish <glory2glory1401 > wrote: Nope, just proving that removing implants helps women get better, even when the doctors are telling them it's not the implants. We have lots of proof of that. My hope is that by proving that women are getting better ( and we know that it is happening because of the many stories on this group) that we can stop doctors from claiming that it's not the implants, when it clearly IS. PattyMolly Bloom <mollyb54bellsouth (DOT) net> wrote: If you are talking about proving a systemic connection - nope, that isn't enough.>> Patty,> > I'm sure Molly can answer the question . . . I don't think recovering after explant is going to rise to the level of proof that the courts demand . .. It may be proof to us, but the legal system is so screwed that black becomes white.> > Rogene> __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Maybe if EVERY woman who is explanted and gets her health back goes back to her old doctors and shows him/her how they have recovered after being explanted, the medical profession would begin to take notice. . . ly, I believe there is pressure on doctors to ignore this issue. . . See what happened to Drs. Blais and Lykissa when they went counter to the "standard" . .. An excellent neurologist in Fort Worth was helping women with very conservative treatment - much of which we recommend here . . . He was lambasted in the New York Times as a quack! . . . So he quit seeing implant women. In California, the Medical Association ruled that any doc who spoke out, contrary to their edits, could lose his license. . . It's going to take some strong docs to stand up to the "powers-that-be" to get the truth out . . . I'm sure there are a growing number of doctors who know the truth .. . . but with their careers at stake, who is going to stand up for us? Rogene Tricia Trish <glory2glory1401@...> wrote: You know what, though....why should there even be scientific proof needed to show that removing the implants helps women get better? Isn't women's testimony enough? If a woman does not get the kind of help she needs to get her health back because doctors are telling her it's not the implants, and yet women are getting their health back with implant removal, shouldn't those doctors be held accountable for sidetracking women from getting help? PattyRogene S <saxony01 > wrote: Patty, That women get much better after removing their implants SHOULD be proof . . but, a scientific sense, it's not. I wish it was! . .. Rogene Tricia Trish <glory2glory1401 > wrote: Nope, just proving that removing implants helps women get better, even when the doctors are telling them it's not the implants. We have lots of proof of that. My hope is that by proving that women are getting better ( and we know that it is happening because of the many stories on this group) that we can stop doctors from claiming that it's not the implants, when it clearly IS. PattyMolly Bloom <mollyb54bellsouth (DOT) net> wrote: If you are talking about proving a systemic connection - nope, that isn't enough.>> Patty,> > I'm sure Molly can answer the question . . . I don't think recovering after explant is going to rise to the level of proof that the courts demand . .. It may be proof to us, but the legal system is so screwed that black becomes white.> > Rogene> __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 I wish I had an answer for that, Rogene. Alas, I don't. I think the only hope we have anymore is through women networking with other women. I don't think most doctors are going to stick their necks out. > > > > Patty, > > > > I'm sure Molly can answer the question . . . I don't think recovering after explant is going > to rise to the level of proof that the courts demand . .. It may be proof to us, but the legal > system is so screwed that black becomes white. > > > > Rogene > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 Rogene, I've been hearing through the holistic grapewine, and it's been my experience that more and more doctors are learning about herbs and homeopathy, because they HAVE to be in the know. There was even a homeopathic pamphlet in the clinic pamphlet shelf last time I went to the Doctors office. It said that homeopathy is the second most popular treatment, next to allopathic medicine. Hopefully, if we all keep talking and asking for alternatives, they will see that that's where the money will be in the near future. I know a few doctors who distribute Herbalife products in the U.S. They tried them and couldn't keep the good news from their families and patients any longer. Their patients are doing so well, and they are happy with that. Hooray for them!! Let's keep the faith and fight the good fight! Love, Sunny s > > > > Patty, > > > > I'm sure Molly can answer the question . . . I don't think recovering after explant is going > to rise to the level of proof that the courts demand . .. It may be proof to us, but the legal > system is so screwed that black becomes white. > > > > Rogene > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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