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Dr Kolb didn't end up doing my surgery BUT when she was going to...she told me I could remove my drains if I felt like it or any GP could...so go to your regular doc or maybe even your OBGYN could do it, I wouldn't do it myself but it was quick and easy...my stitches disolved.

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Bless your precious heart for sharing this with us. What has happened to you has made you stronger, and now it is time for you to heal.

Wishing you the very best...Lea

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PS is NASTY! Shocking comments...

Ladies,you will not believe what I just endured - all I wanted to do was to rush home and post this. Today was my post-op. The assistant took off my deep bandages and the bra, and there they were! a bit smooshed, but perky, cute little A cups. Much better than I thought they'd be. And they will only get better!! I felt like I was reunited with an old friend. She was explaining how to dress the stitches in the nipple, with gauze and ointment, when the ps opened the door. "Stand up" was how she greeted me. She proceeded to look thru the bag of camis I bought and after telling me to get shelf ones and non shelf ones, she picks a flimsy tshirt one and tells me to wear this. She seemed very angry as she tossed them around. I made a comment that my breasts will fluff out, and she said beligerantly 'I don't know! this is how you could be! Since you never gave me your pre-op pics, I don't know what you'll like it - this right one looks lower than the left anyhow" Moving on, I asked about the operation, how it went, did she encounter anything unusual...and she said 'well, when it was over, we all stood over you and cried'. I made a face and said "Cried? Why?" She gave me a pitying look and replied 'because you had such a beautiful result and NOW look at you'.I swear on my soul that is the truth. I was so stunned - I realized I had been threat from the moment she met me, and the truth was she knew nothing about healing from explant! Women like me threaten her very livlihood and she and the assistant stood there in stony silence as I took in the most offensive thing I have ever been told. Strangely, it didn't bother me on a vanity level (on a professional level, yes, it did) I smiled and said 'I have a beautiful "Result" now - this is as I was made and supposed to be'.She replied 'well, life is all a series of choice, honey', and I also sugar-sweet smiled and replied 'oh believe me, I am learning that every day'.My boyfriend reminded me of a conversation between him and the ps before i was wheeled off to surgery - the ps prodded me to tell the nurse why i wanted them out and that I was 'very unusual - quite atypical'. I just said 'I am over them, I want to be myself' (like I wanted to get into this as I am about to go under!!) - My boyfriend said 'small breasted women are gorgeous! Look at Audrey Hepburn,look at" and the ps got very defensive and interupted him 'oh, no, I didn't say you couldn't be beautiful, I am just saying that there is myths out there about implants being unsafe, and especially after that Connie chung piece ran in 98.' I thought 'oh crap, she has been harboring all this resentment towards me'. Even the massage lady seemed perplexed by choice. But do you know what? I was not alone, nor was I affected by this. It was such a powerful experience, I felt all of your support, my darling boyfriend's, and God's presence in making me KNOW I was again beautiful as I should be. I will not soon forget this day. SO, I fear, dear ladies, that she doesn't know diddilly after all about healing. And, could she/would she sabotage my healing by having me wear a tshirt only? 1) I believe you all wore your sports bra at nite too? I am thinking of following the way most of you did 2) I would never go see her again, but she wants to see me EVERY time I come for massage to make sure they are healing ok. My stitches (I didn't know I was gonna have any, and they are the kind you must rip out) come out in one month. After that, I may never go back, and do the lymph massage at another clinic. 3) I wonder if there is any way to not go to her again? Any thoughts? I am still tired and not sure WHAT to put on - ie when we went over train tracks, it hurt. My head is spinning. I knew she was an egomaniac, but I never thought it would take this turn. I am reminded of Wayne Dyer's quote "you must learn to be independant of the good opinion of other people"So, I extend my gratitude to you all, for arming me with the information and bolstering my spirits so much that in the face of this nasty woman, my belief in myself never wavered. Consider it a small victory for "our side"

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Yikes! I am amazed, at both the obscene cruelty of your PS, and your strength and self-posession. It is not easy to forge your own path in this. Yes, thank God for the ladies here! I, too, was alone until I found them and their support. Congrats on not falling apart, and knowing what it true and right.

If it were me, I would wear the sportsbra, and never go back to that PS again. She is sadistic, and though she may have performed the proper surgery, I wouldn't trust her from here on out. Her motivations are suspicious. You could also write her a letter, telling her how completely rude and inappropriate she was, but I doubt that it would do any good. But do get a copy of your post-op, showing that you had your capsules out.

The most important thing is, you did it! And now you can recover your own unique body and health.

Bindi

PS is NASTY! Shocking comments...

Ladies,you will not believe what I just endured - all I wanted to do was to rush home and post this. Today was my post-op. The assistant took off my deep bandages and the bra, and there they were! a bit smooshed, but perky, cute little A cups. Much better than I thought they'd be. And they will only get better!! I felt like I was reunited with an old friend. She was explaining how to dress the stitches in the nipple, with gauze and ointment, when the ps opened the door. "Stand up" was how she greeted me. She proceeded to look thru the bag of camis I bought and after telling me to get shelf ones and non shelf ones, she picks a flimsy tshirt one and tells me to wear this. She seemed very angry as she tossed them around. I made a comment that my breasts will fluff out, and she said beligerantly 'I don't know! this is how you could be! Since you never gave me your pre-op pics, I don't know what you'll like it - this right one looks lower than the left anyhow" Moving on, I asked about the operation, how it went, did she encounter anything unusual...and she said 'well, when it was over, we all stood over you and cried'. I made a face and said "Cried? Why?" She gave me a pitying look and replied 'because you had such a beautiful result and NOW look at you'.I swear on my soul that is the truth. I was so stunned - I realized I had been threat from the moment she met me, and the truth was she knew nothing about healing from explant! Women like me threaten her very livlihood and she and the assistant stood there in stony silence as I took in the most offensive thing I have ever been told. Strangely, it didn't bother me on a vanity level (on a professional level, yes, it did) I smiled and said 'I have a beautiful "Result" now - this is as I was made and supposed to be'.She replied 'well, life is all a series of choice, honey', and I also sugar-sweet smiled and replied 'oh believe me, I am learning that every day'.My boyfriend reminded me of a conversation between him and the ps before i was wheeled off to surgery - the ps prodded me to tell the nurse why i wanted them out and that I was 'very unusual - quite atypical'. I just said 'I am over them, I want to be myself' (like I wanted to get into this as I am about to go under!!) - My boyfriend said 'small breasted women are gorgeous! Look at Audrey Hepburn,look at" and the ps got very defensive and interupted him 'oh, no, I didn't say you couldn't be beautiful, I am just saying that there is myths out there about implants being unsafe, and especially after that Connie chung piece ran in 98.' I thought 'oh crap, she has been harboring all this resentment towards me'. Even the massage lady seemed perplexed by choice. But do you know what? I was not alone, nor was I affected by this. It was such a powerful experience, I felt all of your support, my darling boyfriend's, and God's presence in making me KNOW I was again beautiful as I should be. I will not soon forget this day. SO, I fear, dear ladies, that she doesn't know diddilly after all about healing. And, could she/would she sabotage my healing by having me wear a tshirt only? 1) I believe you all wore your sports bra at nite too? I am thinking of following the way most of you did 2) I would never go see her again, but she wants to see me EVERY time I come for massage to make sure they are healing ok. My stitches (I didn't know I was gonna have any, and they are the kind you must rip out) come out in one month. After that, I may never go back, and do the lymph massage at another clinic. 3) I wonder if there is any way to not go to her again? Any thoughts? I am still tired and not sure WHAT to put on - ie when we went over train tracks, it hurt. My head is spinning. I knew she was an egomaniac, but I never thought it would take this turn. I am reminded of Wayne Dyer's quote "you must learn to be independant of the good opinion of other people"So, I extend my gratitude to you all, for arming me with the information and bolstering my spirits so much that in the face of this nasty woman, my belief in myself never wavered. Consider it a small victory for "our side"

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Hi , I am so glad to hear that you feel good about your new self. I feel the same way about my explant. I am SO glad they are gone. My husband likes them too. He says they feel more natural and not hard any longer. I can't believe what the PS said to you. I believe that she has a right to her own opinion but she needs to keep it to herself. She obviously had a problem before she even walked into the room given the way she acted. About the sports bra... I was told to wear it for a couple of months at least after explant. I am not sure if size has anything to do with it or not. I also had a lift done and I am about a C cup now. I don't see any harm in you wearing a sports bra though. Even a soft not too tight sports bra might be better than just a shirt. I wouldn't go back to her at all. Of course, I am not sure how many plastic surgeons you have in your area. If there are not many, you might be limited. I just wouldn't want to keep

going in there for checks and have to put up with her attitude. Is the staff nice at least? God Bless Emerald Kittee <emeraldkittee@...> wrote: Ladies,you will not believe what I just endured - all I wanted to do was to rush home and post this. Today was my post-op. The assistant took off my deep bandages and the bra, and there they were! a bit smooshed, but perky, cute little A cups. Much better than I

thought they'd be. And they will only get better!! I felt like I was reunited with an old friend. She was explaining how to dress the stitches in the nipple, with gauze and ointment, when the ps opened the door. "Stand up" was how she greeted me. She proceeded to look thru the bag of camis I bought and after telling me to get shelf ones and non shelf ones, she picks a flimsy tshirt one and tells me to wear this. She seemed very angry as she tossed them around. I made a comment that my breasts will fluff out, and she said beligerantly 'I don't know! this is how you could be! Since you never gave me your pre-op pics, I don't know what you'll like it - this right one looks lower than the left anyhow" Moving on, I asked about the operation, how it went, did she encounter anything unusual...and she said 'well, when it was over, we all stood over you and cried'. I made a face and said "Cried? Why?" She gave me a pitying

look and replied 'because you had such a beautiful result and NOW look at you'.I swear on my soul that is the truth. I was so stunned - I realized I had been threat from the moment she met me, and the truth was she knew nothing about healing from explant! Women like me threaten her very livlihood and she and the assistant stood there in stony silence as I took in the most offensive thing I have ever been told. Strangely, it didn't bother me on a vanity level (on a professional level, yes, it did) I smiled and said 'I have a beautiful "Result" now - this is as I was made and supposed to be'.She replied 'well, life is all a series of choice, honey', and I also sugar-sweet smiled and replied 'oh believe me, I am learning that every day'.My boyfriend reminded me of a conversation between him and the ps before i was wheeled off to surgery - the ps prodded me to tell the nurse why i wanted them out and that

I was 'very unusual - quite atypical'. I just said 'I am over them, I want to be myself' (like I wanted to get into this as I am about to go under!!) - My boyfriend said 'small breasted women are gorgeous! Look at Audrey Hepburn,look at" and the ps got very defensive and interupted him 'oh, no, I didn't say you couldn't be beautiful, I am just saying that there is myths out there about implants being unsafe, and especially after that Connie chung piece ran in 98.' I thought 'oh crap, she has been harboring all this resentment towards me'. Even the massage lady seemed perplexed by choice. But do you know what? I was not alone, nor was I affected by this. It was such a powerful experience, I felt all of your support, my darling boyfriend's, and God's presence in making me KNOW I was again beautiful as I should be. I will not soon forget this day. SO, I fear, dear ladies, that she doesn't know diddilly after

all about healing. And, could she/would she sabotage my healing by having me wear a tshirt only? 1) I believe you all wore your sports bra at nite too? I am thinking of following the way most of you did 2) I would never go see her again, but she wants to see me EVERY time I come for massage to make sure they are healing ok. My stitches (I didn't know I was gonna have any, and they are the kind you must rip out) come out in one month. After that, I may never go back, and do the lymph massage at another clinic. 3) I wonder if there is any way to not go to her again? Any thoughts? I am still tired and not sure WHAT to put on - ie when we went over train tracks, it hurt. My head is spinning. I knew she was an egomaniac, but I never thought it would take this turn. I am reminded of Wayne Dyer's quote "you must learn to be independant of the good opinion of other people"So, I extend my

gratitude to you all, for arming me with the information and bolstering my spirits so much that in the face of this nasty woman, my belief in myself never wavered. Consider it a small victory for "our side"

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WOW! What a nasty woman!! You hit it on the head, you are threatening her

livelihood. I'm surprised she could hide all of that nastiness until now.

I'm so proud of you for the way you handled her. You have a wonderful

attitude!! :) And you are right, you are beautiful now.

Kenda

> Ladies,

>

> you will not believe what I just endured - all I wanted to do was to

> rush home and post this.

>

> Today was my post-op. The assistant took off my deep bandages and

> the bra, and there they were! a bit smooshed, but perky, cute

> little A cups. Much better than I thought they'd be. And they will

> only get better!! I felt like I was reunited with an old friend.

> She was explaining how to dress the stitches in the nipple, with

> gauze and ointment, when the ps opened the door. " Stand up " was how

> she greeted me. She proceeded to look thru the bag of camis I

> bought and after telling me to get shelf ones and non shelf ones,

> she picks a flimsy tshirt one and tells me to wear this. She seemed

> very angry as she tossed them around. I made a comment that my

> breasts will fluff out, and she said beligerantly 'I don't know!

> this is how you could be! Since you never gave me your pre-op pics,

> I don't know what you'll like it - this right one looks lower than

> the left anyhow " Moving on, I asked about the operation, how it

> went, did she encounter anything unusual...and she said 'well, when

> it was over, we all stood over you and cried'. I made a face and

> said " Cried? Why? " She gave me a pitying look and replied 'because

> you had such a beautiful result and NOW look at you'.

>

> I swear on my soul that is the truth. I was so stunned - I realized

> I had been threat from the moment she met me, and the truth was she

> knew nothing about healing from explant! Women like me threaten her

> very livlihood and she and the assistant stood there in stony

> silence as I took in the most offensive thing I have ever been

> told. Strangely, it didn't bother me on a vanity level (on a

> professional level, yes, it did) I smiled and said 'I have a

> beautiful " Result " now - this is as I was made and supposed to be'.

>

> She replied 'well, life is all a series of choice, honey', and I

> also sugar-sweet smiled and replied 'oh believe me, I am learning

> that every day'.

>

> My boyfriend reminded me of a conversation between him and the ps

> before i was wheeled off to surgery - the ps prodded me to tell the

> nurse why i wanted them out and that I was 'very unusual - quite

> atypical'. I just said 'I am over them, I want to be myself' (like

> I wanted to get into this as I am about to go under!!) - My

> boyfriend said 'small breasted women are gorgeous! Look at Audrey

> Hepburn,look at " and the ps got very defensive and interupted

> him 'oh, no, I didn't say you couldn't be beautiful, I am just

> saying that there is myths out there about implants being unsafe,

> and especially after that Connie chung piece ran in 98.' I

> thought 'oh crap, she has been harboring all this resentment towards

> me'.

>

> Even the massage lady seemed perplexed by choice. But do you know

> what? I was not alone, nor was I affected by this. It was such a

> powerful experience, I felt all of your support, my darling

> boyfriend's, and God's presence in making me KNOW I was again

> beautiful as I should be. I will not soon forget this day.

>

> SO, I fear, dear ladies, that she doesn't know diddilly after all

> about healing. And, could she/would she sabotage my healing by

> having me wear a tshirt only?

>

> 1) I believe you all wore your sports bra at nite too? I am

> thinking of following the way most of you did

>

> 2) I would never go see her again, but she wants to see me EVERY

> time I come for massage to make sure they are healing ok. My

> stitches (I didn't know I was gonna have any, and they are the kind

> you must rip out) come out in one month. After that, I may never go

> back, and do the lymph massage at another clinic.

>

> 3) I wonder if there is any way to not go to her again? Any

> thoughts? I am still tired and not sure WHAT to put on - ie when

> we went over train tracks, it hurt.

>

> My head is spinning. I knew she was an egomaniac, but I never

> thought it would take this turn. I am reminded of Wayne Dyer's

> quote " you must learn to be independant of the good opinion of other

> people "

>

> So, I extend my gratitude to you all, for arming me with the

> information and bolstering my spirits so much that in the face of

> this nasty woman, my belief in myself never wavered. Consider it a

> small victory for " our side "

>

>

>

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Thanks, ladies. Your support means alot. Do you think a regular

doctor (I love my general one) could remove the stiches and monitor

my progress?? or would I have to go find another nut-job ps? :)

>

> >WOW! What a nasty woman!! You hit it on the head, you are

threatening her

> >livelihood. I'm surprised she could hide all of that nastiness

until now.

> >

> >I'm so proud of you for the way you handled her. You have a

wonderful

> >attitude!! :) And you are right, you are beautiful now.

> >

> >Kenda

> >

> > > Ladies,

> > >

> > > you will not believe what I just endured - all I wanted to do

was to

> > > rush home and post this.

> > >

> > > Today was my post-op. The assistant took off my deep bandages

and

> > > the bra, and there they were! a bit smooshed, but perky, cute

> > > little A cups. Much better than I thought they'd be. And they

will

> > > only get better!! I felt like I was reunited with an old

friend.

> > > She was explaining how to dress the stitches in the nipple,

with

> > > gauze and ointment, when the ps opened the door. " Stand up "

was how

> > > she greeted me. She proceeded to look thru the bag of camis I

> > > bought and after telling me to get shelf ones and non shelf

ones,

> > > she picks a flimsy tshirt one and tells me to wear this. She

seemed

> > > very angry as she tossed them around. I made a comment that my

> > > breasts will fluff out, and she said beligerantly 'I don't

know!

> > > this is how you could be! Since you never gave me your pre-op

pics,

> > > I don't know what you'll like it - this right one looks lower

than

> > > the left anyhow " Moving on, I asked about the operation, how it

> > > went, did she encounter anything unusual...and she said 'well,

when

> > > it was over, we all stood over you and cried'. I made a face

and

> > > said " Cried? Why? " She gave me a pitying look and

replied 'because

> > > you had such a beautiful result and NOW look at you'.

> > >

> > > I swear on my soul that is the truth. I was so stunned - I

realized

> > > I had been threat from the moment she met me, and the truth

was she

> > > knew nothing about healing from explant! Women like me

threaten her

> > > very livlihood and she and the assistant stood there in stony

> > > silence as I took in the most offensive thing I have ever been

> > > told. Strangely, it didn't bother me on a vanity level (on a

> > > professional level, yes, it did) I smiled and said 'I have a

> > > beautiful " Result " now - this is as I was made and supposed to

be'.

> > >

> > > She replied 'well, life is all a series of choice, honey', and

I

> > > also sugar-sweet smiled and replied 'oh believe me, I am

learning

> > > that every day'.

> > >

> > > My boyfriend reminded me of a conversation between him and the

ps

> > > before i was wheeled off to surgery - the ps prodded me to

tell the

> > > nurse why i wanted them out and that I was 'very unusual -

quite

> > > atypical'. I just said 'I am over them, I want to be myself'

(like

> > > I wanted to get into this as I am about to go under!!) - My

> > > boyfriend said 'small breasted women are gorgeous! Look at

Audrey

> > > Hepburn,look at " and the ps got very defensive and interupted

> > > him 'oh, no, I didn't say you couldn't be beautiful, I am just

> > > saying that there is myths out there about implants being

unsafe,

> > > and especially after that Connie chung piece ran in 98.' I

> > > thought 'oh crap, she has been harboring all this resentment

towards

> > > me'.

> > >

> > > Even the massage lady seemed perplexed by choice. But do you

know

> > > what? I was not alone, nor was I affected by this. It was such

a

> > > powerful experience, I felt all of your support, my darling

> > > boyfriend's, and God's presence in making me KNOW I was again

> > > beautiful as I should be. I will not soon forget this day.

> > >

> > > SO, I fear, dear ladies, that she doesn't know diddilly after

all

> > > about healing. And, could she/would she sabotage my healing by

> > > having me wear a tshirt only?

> > >

> > > 1) I believe you all wore your sports bra at nite too? I am

> > > thinking of following the way most of you did

> > >

> > > 2) I would never go see her again, but she wants to see me

EVERY

> > > time I come for massage to make sure they are healing ok. My

> > > stitches (I didn't know I was gonna have any, and they are the

kind

> > > you must rip out) come out in one month. After that, I may

never go

> > > back, and do the lymph massage at another clinic.

> > >

> > > 3) I wonder if there is any way to not go to her again? Any

> > > thoughts? I am still tired and not sure WHAT to put on - ie

when

> > > we went over train tracks, it hurt.

> > >

> > > My head is spinning. I knew she was an egomaniac, but I never

> > > thought it would take this turn. I am reminded of Wayne Dyer's

> > > quote " you must learn to be independant of the good opinion of

other

> > > people "

> > >

> > > So, I extend my gratitude to you all, for arming me with the

> > > information and bolstering my spirits so much that in the face

of

> > > this nasty woman, my belief in myself never wavered. Consider

it a

> > > small victory for " our side "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

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The idea ofthe sport bra is two-fold. It shouldn't have any hard edges - like wires that press on your incisions . . and secondly, it will let your body use the internal scar tissue from healing to shape you up nicely. The bra should be snug, but comfortable, and expect to wear it 24/7 until your healing is well underway. One month sounds like a very long time to leave stitches in . . . Maybe one of our ladies can give you a better estimate. . . .Get your Actually, anyone with a little common sense, a pair of small sissors, and a little alcohol could remove them. The thing you want to watch for is any stitches that appear inflammed. I'm not surprised at anything this doctor does! ... Could it be that she has implants too? . . .in denial big time? I'm so glad you had

the presence of mind to fend off her negativity beore going into surgery! Hugs and prayers, Rogene Emerald Kittee <emeraldkittee@...> wrote: Ladies,you will not believe what I just endured - all I wanted to do was to rush home and post this. Today was my post-op. The assistant took off my deep bandages and the bra, and there they were! a bit smooshed, but perky, cute little A cups. Much better

than I thought they'd be. And they will only get better!! I felt like I was reunited with an old friend. She was explaining how to dress the stitches in the nipple, with gauze and ointment, when the ps opened the door. "Stand up" was how she greeted me. She proceeded to look thru the bag of camis I bought and after telling me to get shelf ones and non shelf ones, she picks a flimsy tshirt one and tells me to wear this. She seemed very angry as she tossed them around. I made a comment that my breasts will fluff out, and she said beligerantly 'I don't know! this is how you could be! Since you never gave me your pre-op pics, I don't know what you'll like it - this right one looks lower than the left anyhow" Moving on, I asked about the operation, how it went, did she encounter anything unusual...and she said 'well, when it was over, we all stood over you and cried'. I made a face and said "Cried? Why?" She gave me a

pitying look and replied 'because you had such a beautiful result and NOW look at you'.I swear on my soul that is the truth. I was so stunned - I realized I had been threat from the moment she met me, and the truth was she knew nothing about healing from explant! Women like me threaten her very livlihood and she and the assistant stood there in stony silence as I took in the most offensive thing I have ever been told. Strangely, it didn't bother me on a vanity level (on a professional level, yes, it did) I smiled and said 'I have a beautiful "Result" now - this is as I was made and supposed to be'.She replied 'well, life is all a series of choice, honey', and I also sugar-sweet smiled and replied 'oh believe me, I am learning that every day'.My boyfriend reminded me of a conversation between him and the ps before i was wheeled off to surgery - the ps prodded me to tell the nurse why i wanted them out

and that I was 'very unusual - quite atypical'. I just said 'I am over them, I want to be myself' (like I wanted to get into this as I am about to go under!!) - My boyfriend said 'small breasted women are gorgeous! Look at Audrey Hepburn,look at" and the ps got very defensive and interupted him 'oh, no, I didn't say you couldn't be beautiful, I am just saying that there is myths out there about implants being unsafe, and especially after that Connie chung piece ran in 98.' I thought 'oh crap, she has been harboring all this resentment towards me'. Even the massage lady seemed perplexed by choice. But do you know what? I was not alone, nor was I affected by this. It was such a powerful experience, I felt all of your support, my darling boyfriend's, and God's presence in making me KNOW I was again beautiful as I should be. I will not soon forget this day. SO, I fear, dear ladies, that she doesn't know

diddilly after all about healing. And, could she/would she sabotage my healing by having me wear a tshirt only? 1) I believe you all wore your sports bra at nite too? I am thinking of following the way most of you did 2) I would never go see her again, but she wants to see me EVERY time I come for massage to make sure they are healing ok. My stitches (I didn't know I was gonna have any, and they are the kind you must rip out) come out in one month. After that, I may never go back, and do the lymph massage at another clinic. 3) I wonder if there is any way to not go to her again? Any thoughts? I am still tired and not sure WHAT to put on - ie when we went over train tracks, it hurt. My head is spinning. I knew she was an egomaniac, but I never thought it would take this turn. I am reminded of Wayne Dyer's quote "you must learn to be independant of the good opinion of other people"So, I

extend my gratitude to you all, for arming me with the information and bolstering my spirits so much that in the face of this nasty woman, my belief in myself never wavered. Consider it a small victory for "our side"

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The idea ofthe sport bra is two-fold. It shouldn't have any hard edges - like wires that press on your incisions . . and secondly, it will let your body use the internal scar tissue from healing to shape you up nicely. The bra should be snug, but comfortable, and expect to wear it 24/7 until your healing is well underway. One month sounds like a very long time to leave stitches in . . . Maybe one of our ladies can give you a better estimate. . . .Get Actually, anyone with a little common sense, a pair of small sissors, and a little alcohol could remove them. The thing you want to watch for is any stitches that appear inflammed. I'm not surprised at anything this doctor does! ... Could it be that she has implants too? . . .in denial big time? I'm so glad you had the

presence of mind to fend off her negativity beore going into surgery! Hugs and prayers, Rogene Emerald Kittee <emeraldkittee@...> wrote: Ladies,you will not believe what I just endured - all I wanted to do was to rush home and post this. Today was my post-op. The assistant took off my deep bandages and the bra, and there they were! a bit smooshed, but perky, cute little A cups. Much better than I

thought they'd be. And they will only get better!! I felt like I was reunited with an old friend. She was explaining how to dress the stitches in the nipple, with gauze and ointment, when the ps opened the door. "Stand up" was how she greeted me. She proceeded to look thru the bag of camis I bought and after telling me to get shelf ones and non shelf ones, she picks a flimsy tshirt one and tells me to wear this. She seemed very angry as she tossed them around. I made a comment that my breasts will fluff out, and she said beligerantly 'I don't know! this is how you could be! Since you never gave me your pre-op pics, I don't know what you'll like it - this right one looks lower than the left anyhow" Moving on, I asked about the operation, how it went, did she encounter anything unusual...and she said 'well, when it was over, we all stood over you and cried'. I made a face and said "Cried? Why?" She gave me a pitying

look and replied 'because you had such a beautiful result and NOW look at you'.I swear on my soul that is the truth. I was so stunned - I realized I had been threat from the moment she met me, and the truth was she knew nothing about healing from explant! Women like me threaten her very livlihood and she and the assistant stood there in stony silence as I took in the most offensive thing I have ever been told. Strangely, it didn't bother me on a vanity level (on a professional level, yes, it did) I smiled and said 'I have a beautiful "Result" now - this is as I was made and supposed to be'.She replied 'well, life is all a series of choice, honey', and I also sugar-sweet smiled and replied 'oh believe me, I am learning that every day'.My boyfriend reminded me of a conversation between him and the ps before i was wheeled off to surgery - the ps prodded me to tell the nurse why i wanted them out and that

I was 'very unusual - quite atypical'. I just said 'I am over them, I want to be myself' (like I wanted to get into this as I am about to go under!!) - My boyfriend said 'small breasted women are gorgeous! Look at Audrey Hepburn,look at" and the ps got very defensive and interupted him 'oh, no, I didn't say you couldn't be beautiful, I am just saying that there is myths out there about implants being unsafe, and especially after that Connie chung piece ran in 98.' I thought 'oh crap, she has been harboring all this resentment towards me'. Even the massage lady seemed perplexed by choice. But do you know what? I was not alone, nor was I affected by this. It was such a powerful experience, I felt all of your support, my darling boyfriend's, and God's presence in making me KNOW I was again beautiful as I should be. I will not soon forget this day. SO, I fear, dear ladies, that she doesn't know diddilly after

all about healing. And, could she/would she sabotage my healing by having me wear a tshirt only? 1) I believe you all wore your sports bra at nite too? I am thinking of following the way most of you did 2) I would never go see her again, but she wants to see me EVERY time I come for massage to make sure they are healing ok. My stitches (I didn't know I was gonna have any, and they are the kind you must rip out) come out in one month. After that, I may never go back, and do the lymph massage at another clinic. 3) I wonder if there is any way to not go to her again? Any thoughts? I am still tired and not sure WHAT to put on - ie when we went over train tracks, it hurt. My head is spinning. I knew she was an egomaniac, but I never thought it would take this turn. I am reminded of Wayne Dyer's quote "you must learn to be independant of the good opinion of other people"So, I extend my

gratitude to you all, for arming me with the information and bolstering my spirits so much that in the face of this nasty woman, my belief in myself never wavered. Consider it a small victory for "our side"

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Just ask him/her! I'd try to advoid that witch like the plague! RogeneEmerald Kittee <emeraldkittee@...> wrote: Thanks, ladies. Your support means alot. Do you think a regular doctor (I love my general one) could remove the stiches and monitor my progress?? or would I have to go find another nut-job ps? :)> > >WOW! What a nasty woman!! You hit it on the head, you are threatening her> >livelihood. I'm surprised she could hide all of that nastiness until now.> >> >I'm so proud of you for the way you handled her. You have a wonderful> >attitude!! :) And you are right, you are beautiful now.> >> >Kenda> >> > > Ladies,> > >> > > you will not believe what I just endured - all I wanted to

do was to> > > rush home and post this.> > >> > > Today was my post-op. The assistant took off my deep bandages and> > > the bra, and there they were! a bit smooshed, but perky, cute> > > little A cups. Much better than I thought they'd be. And they will> > > only get better!! I felt like I was reunited with an old friend.> > > She was explaining how to dress the stitches in the nipple, with> > > gauze and ointment, when the ps opened the door. "Stand up" was how> > > she greeted me. She proceeded to look thru the bag of camis I> > > bought and after telling me to get shelf ones and non shelf ones,> > > she picks a flimsy tshirt one and tells me to wear this. She seemed> > > very angry as she tossed them around. I made a comment that my> > > breasts will fluff out, and she

said beligerantly 'I don't know!> > > this is how you could be! Since you never gave me your pre-op pics,> > > I don't know what you'll like it - this right one looks lower than> > > the left anyhow" Moving on, I asked about the operation, how it> > > went, did she encounter anything unusual...and she said 'well, when> > > it was over, we all stood over you and cried'. I made a face and> > > said "Cried? Why?" She gave me a pitying look and replied 'because> > > you had such a beautiful result and NOW look at you'.> > >> > > I swear on my soul that is the truth. I was so stunned - I realized> > > I had been threat from the moment she met me, and the truth was she> > > knew nothing about healing from explant! Women like me threaten her> > > very livlihood and she and the assistant

stood there in stony> > > silence as I took in the most offensive thing I have ever been> > > told. Strangely, it didn't bother me on a vanity level (on a> > > professional level, yes, it did) I smiled and said 'I have a> > > beautiful "Result" now - this is as I was made and supposed to be'.> > >> > > She replied 'well, life is all a series of choice, honey', and I> > > also sugar-sweet smiled and replied 'oh believe me, I am learning> > > that every day'.> > >> > > My boyfriend reminded me of a conversation between him and the ps> > > before i was wheeled off to surgery - the ps prodded me to tell the> > > nurse why i wanted them out and that I was 'very unusual - quite> > > atypical'. I just said 'I am over them, I want to be myself' (like> > > I wanted to get

into this as I am about to go under!!) - My> > > boyfriend said 'small breasted women are gorgeous! Look at Audrey> > > Hepburn,look at" and the ps got very defensive and interupted> > > him 'oh, no, I didn't say you couldn't be beautiful, I am just> > > saying that there is myths out there about implants being unsafe,> > > and especially after that Connie chung piece ran in 98.' I> > > thought 'oh crap, she has been harboring all this resentment towards> > > me'.> > >> > > Even the massage lady seemed perplexed by choice. But do you know> > > what? I was not alone, nor was I affected by this. It was such a> > > powerful experience, I felt all of your support, my darling> > > boyfriend's, and God's presence in making me KNOW I was again> > > beautiful as I should be. I will not soon

forget this day.> > >> > > SO, I fear, dear ladies, that she doesn't know diddilly after all> > > about healing. And, could she/would she sabotage my healing by> > > having me wear a tshirt only?> > >> > > 1) I believe you all wore your sports bra at nite too? I am> > > thinking of following the way most of you did> > >> > > 2) I would never go see her again, but she wants to see me EVERY> > > time I come for massage to make sure they are healing ok. My> > > stitches (I didn't know I was gonna have any, and they are the kind> > > you must rip out) come out in one month. After that, I may never go> > > back, and do the lymph massage at another clinic.> > >> > > 3) I wonder if there is any way to not go to her again? Any> > > thoughts? I am still tired

and not sure WHAT to put on - ie when> > > we went over train tracks, it hurt.> > >> > > My head is spinning. I knew she was an egomaniac, but I never> > > thought it would take this turn. I am reminded of Wayne Dyer's> > > quote "you must learn to be independant of the good opinion of other> > > people"> > >> > > So, I extend my gratitude to you all, for arming me with the> > > information and bolstering my spirits so much that in the face of> > > this nasty woman, my belief in myself never wavered. Consider it a> > > small victory for "our side"> > >> > > > > >> >> >>

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You know, I don't get why she wants to see me 3 times a week, then 2

times a week for 6 weeks. It cannot be totally necessary, when some

of the ladies flew in from out other places, etc.

She told me I may " poof " out - I asked her what that meant and she

snapped 'swell, you may swell up' - and that I should wrap an ace

bandage around me to flatten me out if that happens. (But I had

drains, why would I swell up now?) She also said I should wear this

ace bandage around my waist at all times in case I need to pull it

up. ????

Then, they pinned my sleeves to the side of my shirt so I wouldn't

use my arms too much.

And she showed me exercises to do - with my arms way above my head

and stretch as much as I can. ? (sure, with pinned arms??)

She told me to get out and not let this debilitate me as its 'not a

big deal' of a surgery. (her advice ran counter to everything her

staff was saying, too)

I think she believed I was going to change my mind in the 11th hour

and that is why she turned into such a monster. I am really

confused by all the contrary advice - the explant is over, now it

shouldn't be that complicated, right?

Anyone else had any of these instructions?

They said my stitches come out in a month - my dr. is out until

tomorrow but if he can take them out I should be fine just seeing

him. Afterall, many of you never saw the ps again after explant,

right?

> >

> > >WOW! What a nasty woman!! You hit it on the head, you are

> threatening her

> > >livelihood. I'm surprised she could hide all of that nastiness

> until now.

> > >

> > >I'm so proud of you for the way you handled her. You have a

> wonderful

> > >attitude!! :) And you are right, you are beautiful now.

> > >

> > >Kenda

> > >

> > > > Ladies,

> > > >

> > > > you will not believe what I just endured - all I wanted to

do

> was to

> > > > rush home and post this.

> > > >

> > > > Today was my post-op. The assistant took off my deep

bandages

> and

> > > > the bra, and there they were! a bit smooshed, but perky, cute

> > > > little A cups. Much better than I thought they'd be. And

they

> will

> > > > only get better!! I felt like I was reunited with an old

> friend.

> > > > She was explaining how to dress the stitches in the nipple,

> with

> > > > gauze and ointment, when the ps opened the door. " Stand up "

> was how

> > > > she greeted me. She proceeded to look thru the bag of camis I

> > > > bought and after telling me to get shelf ones and non shelf

> ones,

> > > > she picks a flimsy tshirt one and tells me to wear this. She

> seemed

> > > > very angry as she tossed them around. I made a comment that

my

> > > > breasts will fluff out, and she said beligerantly 'I don't

> know!

> > > > this is how you could be! Since you never gave me your pre-

op

> pics,

> > > > I don't know what you'll like it - this right one looks

lower

> than

> > > > the left anyhow " Moving on, I asked about the operation, how

it

> > > > went, did she encounter anything unusual...and she

said 'well,

> when

> > > > it was over, we all stood over you and cried'. I made a face

> and

> > > > said " Cried? Why? " She gave me a pitying look and

> replied 'because

> > > > you had such a beautiful result and NOW look at you'.

> > > >

> > > > I swear on my soul that is the truth. I was so stunned - I

> realized

> > > > I had been threat from the moment she met me, and the truth

> was she

> > > > knew nothing about healing from explant! Women like me

> threaten her

> > > > very livlihood and she and the assistant stood there in stony

> > > > silence as I took in the most offensive thing I have ever

been

> > > > told. Strangely, it didn't bother me on a vanity level (on a

> > > > professional level, yes, it did) I smiled and said 'I have a

> > > > beautiful " Result " now - this is as I was made and supposed

to

> be'.

> > > >

> > > > She replied 'well, life is all a series of choice, honey',

and

> I

> > > > also sugar-sweet smiled and replied 'oh believe me, I am

> learning

> > > > that every day'.

> > > >

> > > > My boyfriend reminded me of a conversation between him and

the

> ps

> > > > before i was wheeled off to surgery - the ps prodded me to

> tell the

> > > > nurse why i wanted them out and that I was 'very unusual -

> quite

> > > > atypical'. I just said 'I am over them, I want to be myself'

> (like

> > > > I wanted to get into this as I am about to go under!!) - My

> > > > boyfriend said 'small breasted women are gorgeous! Look at

> Audrey

> > > > Hepburn,look at " and the ps got very defensive and interupted

> > > > him 'oh, no, I didn't say you couldn't be beautiful, I am

just

> > > > saying that there is myths out there about implants being

> unsafe,

> > > > and especially after that Connie chung piece ran in 98.' I

> > > > thought 'oh crap, she has been harboring all this resentment

> towards

> > > > me'.

> > > >

> > > > Even the massage lady seemed perplexed by choice. But do you

> know

> > > > what? I was not alone, nor was I affected by this. It was

such

> a

> > > > powerful experience, I felt all of your support, my darling

> > > > boyfriend's, and God's presence in making me KNOW I was again

> > > > beautiful as I should be. I will not soon forget this day.

> > > >

> > > > SO, I fear, dear ladies, that she doesn't know diddilly

after

> all

> > > > about healing. And, could she/would she sabotage my healing

by

> > > > having me wear a tshirt only?

> > > >

> > > > 1) I believe you all wore your sports bra at nite too? I am

> > > > thinking of following the way most of you did

> > > >

> > > > 2) I would never go see her again, but she wants to see me

> EVERY

> > > > time I come for massage to make sure they are healing ok. My

> > > > stitches (I didn't know I was gonna have any, and they are

the

> kind

> > > > you must rip out) come out in one month. After that, I may

> never go

> > > > back, and do the lymph massage at another clinic.

> > > >

> > > > 3) I wonder if there is any way to not go to her again? Any

> > > > thoughts? I am still tired and not sure WHAT to put on - ie

> when

> > > > we went over train tracks, it hurt.

> > > >

> > > > My head is spinning. I knew she was an egomaniac, but I never

> > > > thought it would take this turn. I am reminded of Wayne

Dyer's

> > > > quote " you must learn to be independant of the good opinion

of

> other

> > > > people "

> > > >

> > > > So, I extend my gratitude to you all, for arming me with the

> > > > information and bolstering my spirits so much that in the

face

> of

> > > > this nasty woman, my belief in myself never wavered.

Consider

> it a

> > > > small victory for " our side "

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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-ok, this helps, Rogene, thank you! I am going to walmart and buying

several sizes (gonna search the old messages for that one Melmed

suggests that walmart sells) - the one I have was just way too

tight.

Interesting, I thought a month was long for stitches too!!

and yes...I am pretty sure she has implants - she looked very large

today (didn't have her medical coat on)!

Yes, I want to never see her again, so I will pray I do not get any

inflammations or infections that would make it necessary to go back.

-- In , Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> The idea ofthe sport bra is two-fold. It shouldn't have any hard

edges - like wires that press on your incisions . . and secondly, it

will let your body use the internal scar tissue from healing to

shape you up nicely.

>

> The bra should be snug, but comfortable, and expect to wear it

24/7 until your healing is well underway.

>

> One month sounds like a very long time to leave stitches

in . . . Maybe one of our ladies can give you a better

estimate. . . .Get

>

> Actually, anyone with a little common sense, a pair of small

sissors, and a little alcohol could remove them. The thing you want

to watch for is any stitches that appear inflammed.

>

> I'm not surprised at anything this doctor does! ... Could it be

that she has implants too? . . .in denial big time?

>

> I'm so glad you had the presence of mind to fend off her

negativity beore going into surgery!

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

> Emerald Kittee <emeraldkittee@...> wrote:

> Ladies,

>

> you will not believe what I just endured - all I wanted to do was

to

> rush home and post this.

>

> Today was my post-op. The assistant took off my deep bandages and

> the bra, and there they were! a bit smooshed, but perky, cute

> little A cups. Much better than I thought they'd be. And they will

> only get better!! I felt like I was reunited with an old friend.

> She was explaining how to dress the stitches in the nipple, with

> gauze and ointment, when the ps opened the door. " Stand up " was

how

> she greeted me. She proceeded to look thru the bag of camis I

> bought and after telling me to get shelf ones and non shelf ones,

> she picks a flimsy tshirt one and tells me to wear this. She

seemed

> very angry as she tossed them around. I made a comment that my

> breasts will fluff out, and she said beligerantly 'I don't know!

> this is how you could be! Since you never gave me your pre-op

pics,

> I don't know what you'll like it - this right one looks lower than

> the left anyhow " Moving on, I asked about the operation, how it

> went, did she encounter anything unusual...and she said 'well,

when

> it was over, we all stood over you and cried'. I made a face and

> said " Cried? Why? " She gave me a pitying look and replied 'because

> you had such a beautiful result and NOW look at you'.

>

> I swear on my soul that is the truth. I was so stunned - I

realized

> I had been threat from the moment she met me, and the truth was

she

> knew nothing about healing from explant! Women like me threaten

her

> very livlihood and she and the assistant stood there in stony

> silence as I took in the most offensive thing I have ever been

> told. Strangely, it didn't bother me on a vanity level (on a

> professional level, yes, it did) I smiled and said 'I have a

> beautiful " Result " now - this is as I was made and supposed to be'.

>

> She replied 'well, life is all a series of choice, honey', and I

> also sugar-sweet smiled and replied 'oh believe me, I am learning

> that every day'.

>

> My boyfriend reminded me of a conversation between him and the ps

> before i was wheeled off to surgery - the ps prodded me to tell

the

> nurse why i wanted them out and that I was 'very unusual - quite

> atypical'. I just said 'I am over them, I want to be myself' (like

> I wanted to get into this as I am about to go under!!) - My

> boyfriend said 'small breasted women are gorgeous! Look at Audrey

> Hepburn,look at " and the ps got very defensive and interupted

> him 'oh, no, I didn't say you couldn't be beautiful, I am just

> saying that there is myths out there about implants being unsafe,

> and especially after that Connie chung piece ran in 98.' I

> thought 'oh crap, she has been harboring all this resentment

towards

> me'.

>

> Even the massage lady seemed perplexed by choice. But do you know

> what? I was not alone, nor was I affected by this. It was such a

> powerful experience, I felt all of your support, my darling

> boyfriend's, and God's presence in making me KNOW I was again

> beautiful as I should be. I will not soon forget this day.

>

> SO, I fear, dear ladies, that she doesn't know diddilly after all

> about healing. And, could she/would she sabotage my healing by

> having me wear a tshirt only?

>

> 1) I believe you all wore your sports bra at nite too? I am

> thinking of following the way most of you did

>

> 2) I would never go see her again, but she wants to see me EVERY

> time I come for massage to make sure they are healing ok. My

> stitches (I didn't know I was gonna have any, and they are the

kind

> you must rip out) come out in one month. After that, I may never

go

> back, and do the lymph massage at another clinic.

>

> 3) I wonder if there is any way to not go to her again? Any

> thoughts? I am still tired and not sure WHAT to put on - ie when

> we went over train tracks, it hurt.

>

> My head is spinning. I knew she was an egomaniac, but I never

> thought it would take this turn. I am reminded of Wayne Dyer's

> quote " you must learn to be independant of the good opinion of

other

> people "

>

> So, I extend my gratitude to you all, for arming me with the

> information and bolstering my spirits so much that in the face of

> this nasty woman, my belief in myself never wavered. Consider it a

> small victory for " our side "

>

>

>

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,

Get some hibicleanse it comes in a blue bottle from the drug store.

It is a wash so when you are able to shower you can pour some of

that on. It is used and suggested for healing wounds after surgery

instead of regular soap. It is very soft and gentle. I still use it

I have a little piece of scab from my capsule removal left but it is

really soft and I like the way it smells. Your general Doctor can

remove the stitches. I had a small infection and required

antibiotics and my surgeon was out of town my PCD took a look and

and put a bandage and ordered antibiotics, it made me feel now he

sees this incision he knows that what I am telling him his real.

Love and soft big hugs you have been through a rough time with that

monster of a ps. I cant stand them anymore.

Love and aloha,

Terri P

> > >

> > > >WOW! What a nasty woman!! You hit it on the head, you are

> > threatening her

> > > >livelihood. I'm surprised she could hide all of that

nastiness

> > until now.

> > > >

> > > >I'm so proud of you for the way you handled her. You have a

> > wonderful

> > > >attitude!! :) And you are right, you are beautiful now.

> > > >

> > > >Kenda

> > > >

> > > > > Ladies,

> > > > >

> > > > > you will not believe what I just endured - all I wanted to

> do

> > was to

> > > > > rush home and post this.

> > > > >

> > > > > Today was my post-op. The assistant took off my deep

> bandages

> > and

> > > > > the bra, and there they were! a bit smooshed, but perky,

cute

> > > > > little A cups. Much better than I thought they'd be. And

> they

> > will

> > > > > only get better!! I felt like I was reunited with an old

> > friend.

> > > > > She was explaining how to dress the stitches in the

nipple,

> > with

> > > > > gauze and ointment, when the ps opened the door. " Stand

up "

> > was how

> > > > > she greeted me. She proceeded to look thru the bag of

camis I

> > > > > bought and after telling me to get shelf ones and non

shelf

> > ones,

> > > > > she picks a flimsy tshirt one and tells me to wear this.

She

> > seemed

> > > > > very angry as she tossed them around. I made a comment

that

> my

> > > > > breasts will fluff out, and she said beligerantly 'I don't

> > know!

> > > > > this is how you could be! Since you never gave me your pre-

> op

> > pics,

> > > > > I don't know what you'll like it - this right one looks

> lower

> > than

> > > > > the left anyhow " Moving on, I asked about the operation,

how

> it

> > > > > went, did she encounter anything unusual...and she

> said 'well,

> > when

> > > > > it was over, we all stood over you and cried'. I made a

face

> > and

> > > > > said " Cried? Why? " She gave me a pitying look and

> > replied 'because

> > > > > you had such a beautiful result and NOW look at you'.

> > > > >

> > > > > I swear on my soul that is the truth. I was so stunned - I

> > realized

> > > > > I had been threat from the moment she met me, and the

truth

> > was she

> > > > > knew nothing about healing from explant! Women like me

> > threaten her

> > > > > very livlihood and she and the assistant stood there in

stony

> > > > > silence as I took in the most offensive thing I have ever

> been

> > > > > told. Strangely, it didn't bother me on a vanity level (on

a

> > > > > professional level, yes, it did) I smiled and said 'I have

a

> > > > > beautiful " Result " now - this is as I was made and

supposed

> to

> > be'.

> > > > >

> > > > > She replied 'well, life is all a series of choice, honey',

> and

> > I

> > > > > also sugar-sweet smiled and replied 'oh believe me, I am

> > learning

> > > > > that every day'.

> > > > >

> > > > > My boyfriend reminded me of a conversation between him and

> the

> > ps

> > > > > before i was wheeled off to surgery - the ps prodded me to

> > tell the

> > > > > nurse why i wanted them out and that I was 'very unusual -

> > quite

> > > > > atypical'. I just said 'I am over them, I want to be

myself'

> > (like

> > > > > I wanted to get into this as I am about to go under!!) - My

> > > > > boyfriend said 'small breasted women are gorgeous! Look at

> > Audrey

> > > > > Hepburn,look at " and the ps got very defensive and

interupted

> > > > > him 'oh, no, I didn't say you couldn't be beautiful, I am

> just

> > > > > saying that there is myths out there about implants being

> > unsafe,

> > > > > and especially after that Connie chung piece ran in 98.' I

> > > > > thought 'oh crap, she has been harboring all this

resentment

> > towards

> > > > > me'.

> > > > >

> > > > > Even the massage lady seemed perplexed by choice. But do

you

> > know

> > > > > what? I was not alone, nor was I affected by this. It was

> such

> > a

> > > > > powerful experience, I felt all of your support, my darling

> > > > > boyfriend's, and God's presence in making me KNOW I was

again

> > > > > beautiful as I should be. I will not soon forget this day.

> > > > >

> > > > > SO, I fear, dear ladies, that she doesn't know diddilly

> after

> > all

> > > > > about healing. And, could she/would she sabotage my

healing

> by

> > > > > having me wear a tshirt only?

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) I believe you all wore your sports bra at nite too? I am

> > > > > thinking of following the way most of you did

> > > > >

> > > > > 2) I would never go see her again, but she wants to see me

> > EVERY

> > > > > time I come for massage to make sure they are healing ok.

My

> > > > > stitches (I didn't know I was gonna have any, and they are

> the

> > kind

> > > > > you must rip out) come out in one month. After that, I may

> > never go

> > > > > back, and do the lymph massage at another clinic.

> > > > >

> > > > > 3) I wonder if there is any way to not go to her again? Any

> > > > > thoughts? I am still tired and not sure WHAT to put on -

ie

> > when

> > > > > we went over train tracks, it hurt.

> > > > >

> > > > > My head is spinning. I knew she was an egomaniac, but I

never

> > > > > thought it would take this turn. I am reminded of Wayne

> Dyer's

> > > > > quote " you must learn to be independant of the good

opinion

> of

> > other

> > > > > people "

> > > > >

> > > > > So, I extend my gratitude to you all, for arming me with

the

> > > > > information and bolstering my spirits so much that in the

> face

> > of

> > > > > this nasty woman, my belief in myself never wavered.

> Consider

> > it a

> > > > > small victory for " our side "

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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She sounds psycho. I would wear a sportsbra and be careful of using your upper body for a least a month. That's what many women have done after explant, and it has worked out fine. Let youyr doctor take over from here.

Bindi

Re: PS is NASTY! Shocking comments...

You know, I don't get why she wants to see me 3 times a week, then 2 times a week for 6 weeks. It cannot be totally necessary, when some of the ladies flew in from out other places, etc.She told me I may "poof" out - I asked her what that meant and she snapped 'swell, you may swell up' - and that I should wrap an ace bandage around me to flatten me out if that happens. (But I had drains, why would I swell up now?) She also said I should wear this ace bandage around my waist at all times in case I need to pull it up. ????Then, they pinned my sleeves to the side of my shirt so I wouldn't use my arms too much.And she showed me exercises to do - with my arms way above my head and stretch as much as I can. ? (sure, with pinned arms??) She told me to get out and not let this debilitate me as its 'not a big deal' of a surgery. (her advice ran counter to everything her staff was saying, too)I think she believed I was going to change my mind in the 11th hour and that is why she turned into such a monster. I am really confused by all the contrary advice - the explant is over, now it shouldn't be that complicated, right? Anyone else had any of these instructions?They said my stitches come out in a month - my dr. is out until tomorrow but if he can take them out I should be fine just seeing him. Afterall, many of you never saw the ps again after explant, right?> > > > >WOW! What a nasty woman!! You hit it on the head, you are > threatening her> > >livelihood. I'm surprised she could hide all of that nastiness > until now.> > >> > >I'm so proud of you for the way you handled her. You have a > wonderful> > >attitude!! :) And you are right, you are beautiful now.> > >> > >Kenda> > >> > > > Ladies,> > > >> > > > you will not believe what I just endured - all I wanted to do > was to> > > > rush home and post this.> > > >> > > > Today was my post-op. The assistant took off my deep bandages > and> > > > the bra, and there they were! a bit smooshed, but perky, cute> > > > little A cups. Much better than I thought they'd be. And they > will> > > > only get better!! I felt like I was reunited with an old > friend.> > > > She was explaining how to dress the stitches in the nipple, > with> > > > gauze and ointment, when the ps opened the door. "Stand up" > was how> > > > she greeted me. She proceeded to look thru the bag of camis I> > > > bought and after telling me to get shelf ones and non shelf > ones,> > > > she picks a flimsy tshirt one and tells me to wear this. She > seemed> > > > very angry as she tossed them around. I made a comment that my> > > > breasts will fluff out, and she said beligerantly 'I don't > know!> > > > this is how you could be! Since you never gave me your pre-op > pics,> > > > I don't know what you'll like it - this right one looks lower > than> > > > the left anyhow" Moving on, I asked about the operation, how it> > > > went, did she encounter anything unusual...and she said 'well, > when> > > > it was over, we all stood over you and cried'. I made a face > and> > > > said "Cried? Why?" She gave me a pitying look and > replied 'because> > > > you had such a beautiful result and NOW look at you'.> > > >> > > > I swear on my soul that is the truth. I was so stunned - I > realized> > > > I had been threat from the moment she met me, and the truth > was she> > > > knew nothing about healing from explant! Women like me > threaten her> > > > very livlihood and she and the assistant stood there in stony> > > > silence as I took in the most offensive thing I have ever been> > > > told. Strangely, it didn't bother me on a vanity level (on a> > > > professional level, yes, it did) I smiled and said 'I have a> > > > beautiful "Result" now - this is as I was made and supposed to > be'.> > > >> > > > She replied 'well, life is all a series of choice, honey', and > I> > > > also sugar-sweet smiled and replied 'oh believe me, I am > learning> > > > that every day'.> > > >> > > > My boyfriend reminded me of a conversation between him and the > ps> > > > before i was wheeled off to surgery - the ps prodded me to > tell the> > > > nurse why i wanted them out and that I was 'very unusual - > quite> > > > atypical'. I just said 'I am over them, I want to be myself' > (like> > > > I wanted to get into this as I am about to go under!!) - My> > > > boyfriend said 'small breasted women are gorgeous! Look at > Audrey> > > > Hepburn,look at" and the ps got very defensive and interupted> > > > him 'oh, no, I didn't say you couldn't be beautiful, I am just> > > > saying that there is myths out there about implants being > unsafe,> > > > and especially after that Connie chung piece ran in 98.' I> > > > thought 'oh crap, she has been harboring all this resentment > towards> > > > me'.> > > >> > > > Even the massage lady seemed perplexed by choice. But do you > know> > > > what? I was not alone, nor was I affected by this. It was such > a> > > > powerful experience, I felt all of your support, my darling> > > > boyfriend's, and God's presence in making me KNOW I was again> > > > beautiful as I should be. I will not soon forget this day.> > > >> > > > SO, I fear, dear ladies, that she doesn't know diddilly after > all> > > > about healing. And, could she/would she sabotage my healing by> > > > having me wear a tshirt only?> > > >> > > > 1) I believe you all wore your sports bra at nite too? I am> > > > thinking of following the way most of you did> > > >> > > > 2) I would never go see her again, but she wants to see me > EVERY> > > > time I come for massage to make sure they are healing ok. My> > > > stitches (I didn't know I was gonna have any, and they are the > kind> > > > you must rip out) come out in one month. After that, I may > never go> > > > back, and do the lymph massage at another clinic.> > > >> > > > 3) I wonder if there is any way to not go to her again? Any> > > > thoughts? I am still tired and not sure WHAT to put on - ie > when> > > > we went over train tracks, it hurt.> > > >> > > > My head is spinning. I knew she was an egomaniac, but I never> > > > thought it would take this turn. I am reminded of Wayne Dyer's> > > > quote "you must learn to be independant of the good opinion of > other> > > > people"> > > >> > > > So, I extend my gratitude to you all, for arming me with the> > > > information and bolstering my spirits so much that in the face > of> > > > this nasty woman, my belief in myself never wavered. Consider > it a> > > > small victory for "our side"> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > >> >>

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Thanks, Terri, I will get some of that! they said I can take a

shower today - they seemed to contradict what kind of soap I could

use. they make my head hurt more than my breasts.

yes, really, I am sick of 'them' too. Gonna see if my regular doc

will get on board and check on me and remove the stitches. I

thought I was having the kind you disolve but guess the witch

changed her mind.

all of this helps, thank you!!

> > > >

> > > > >WOW! What a nasty woman!! You hit it on the head, you are

> > > threatening her

> > > > >livelihood. I'm surprised she could hide all of that

> nastiness

> > > until now.

> > > > >

> > > > >I'm so proud of you for the way you handled her. You have a

> > > wonderful

> > > > >attitude!! :) And you are right, you are beautiful now.

> > > > >

> > > > >Kenda

> > > > >

> > > > > > Ladies,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > you will not believe what I just endured - all I wanted

to

> > do

> > > was to

> > > > > > rush home and post this.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Today was my post-op. The assistant took off my deep

> > bandages

> > > and

> > > > > > the bra, and there they were! a bit smooshed, but perky,

> cute

> > > > > > little A cups. Much better than I thought they'd be. And

> > they

> > > will

> > > > > > only get better!! I felt like I was reunited with an old

> > > friend.

> > > > > > She was explaining how to dress the stitches in the

> nipple,

> > > with

> > > > > > gauze and ointment, when the ps opened the door. " Stand

> up "

> > > was how

> > > > > > she greeted me. She proceeded to look thru the bag of

> camis I

> > > > > > bought and after telling me to get shelf ones and non

> shelf

> > > ones,

> > > > > > she picks a flimsy tshirt one and tells me to wear this.

> She

> > > seemed

> > > > > > very angry as she tossed them around. I made a comment

> that

> > my

> > > > > > breasts will fluff out, and she said beligerantly 'I

don't

> > > know!

> > > > > > this is how you could be! Since you never gave me your

pre-

> > op

> > > pics,

> > > > > > I don't know what you'll like it - this right one looks

> > lower

> > > than

> > > > > > the left anyhow " Moving on, I asked about the operation,

> how

> > it

> > > > > > went, did she encounter anything unusual...and she

> > said 'well,

> > > when

> > > > > > it was over, we all stood over you and cried'. I made a

> face

> > > and

> > > > > > said " Cried? Why? " She gave me a pitying look and

> > > replied 'because

> > > > > > you had such a beautiful result and NOW look at you'.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I swear on my soul that is the truth. I was so stunned -

I

> > > realized

> > > > > > I had been threat from the moment she met me, and the

> truth

> > > was she

> > > > > > knew nothing about healing from explant! Women like me

> > > threaten her

> > > > > > very livlihood and she and the assistant stood there in

> stony

> > > > > > silence as I took in the most offensive thing I have

ever

> > been

> > > > > > told. Strangely, it didn't bother me on a vanity level

(on

> a

> > > > > > professional level, yes, it did) I smiled and said 'I

have

> a

> > > > > > beautiful " Result " now - this is as I was made and

> supposed

> > to

> > > be'.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > She replied 'well, life is all a series of choice,

honey',

> > and

> > > I

> > > > > > also sugar-sweet smiled and replied 'oh believe me, I am

> > > learning

> > > > > > that every day'.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My boyfriend reminded me of a conversation between him

and

> > the

> > > ps

> > > > > > before i was wheeled off to surgery - the ps prodded me

to

> > > tell the

> > > > > > nurse why i wanted them out and that I was 'very

unusual -

> > > quite

> > > > > > atypical'. I just said 'I am over them, I want to be

> myself'

> > > (like

> > > > > > I wanted to get into this as I am about to go under!!) -

My

> > > > > > boyfriend said 'small breasted women are gorgeous! Look

at

> > > Audrey

> > > > > > Hepburn,look at " and the ps got very defensive and

> interupted

> > > > > > him 'oh, no, I didn't say you couldn't be beautiful, I

am

> > just

> > > > > > saying that there is myths out there about implants

being

> > > unsafe,

> > > > > > and especially after that Connie chung piece ran in 98.'

I

> > > > > > thought 'oh crap, she has been harboring all this

> resentment

> > > towards

> > > > > > me'.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Even the massage lady seemed perplexed by choice. But do

> you

> > > know

> > > > > > what? I was not alone, nor was I affected by this. It

was

> > such

> > > a

> > > > > > powerful experience, I felt all of your support, my

darling

> > > > > > boyfriend's, and God's presence in making me KNOW I was

> again

> > > > > > beautiful as I should be. I will not soon forget this

day.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > SO, I fear, dear ladies, that she doesn't know diddilly

> > after

> > > all

> > > > > > about healing. And, could she/would she sabotage my

> healing

> > by

> > > > > > having me wear a tshirt only?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1) I believe you all wore your sports bra at nite too? I

am

> > > > > > thinking of following the way most of you did

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2) I would never go see her again, but she wants to see

me

> > > EVERY

> > > > > > time I come for massage to make sure they are healing

ok.

> My

> > > > > > stitches (I didn't know I was gonna have any, and they

are

> > the

> > > kind

> > > > > > you must rip out) come out in one month. After that, I

may

> > > never go

> > > > > > back, and do the lymph massage at another clinic.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3) I wonder if there is any way to not go to her again?

Any

> > > > > > thoughts? I am still tired and not sure WHAT to put on -

> ie

> > > when

> > > > > > we went over train tracks, it hurt.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My head is spinning. I knew she was an egomaniac, but I

> never

> > > > > > thought it would take this turn. I am reminded of Wayne

> > Dyer's

> > > > > > quote " you must learn to be independant of the good

> opinion

> > of

> > > other

> > > > > > people "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So, I extend my gratitude to you all, for arming me with

> the

> > > > > > information and bolstering my spirits so much that in

the

> > face

> > > of

> > > > > > this nasty woman, my belief in myself never wavered.

> > Consider

> > > it a

> > > > > > small victory for " our side "

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Thanks, Bindi. I am getting the rpt on Wed., so I will only go back

then and hopefully not even see her even though she wants to see me.

(and to the massage lady 'til I settle where to go for the new

one).

>

> ,

> Yikes! I am amazed, at both the obscene cruelty of your PS, and

your strength and self-posession. It is not easy to forge your own

path in this. Yes, thank God for the ladies here! I, too, was alone

until I found them and their support. Congrats on not falling apart,

and knowing what it true and right.

>

> If it were me, I would wear the sportsbra, and never go back to

that PS again. She is sadistic, and though she may have performed

the proper surgery, I wouldn't trust her from here on out. Her

motivations are suspicious. You could also write her a letter,

telling her how completely rude and inappropriate she was, but I

doubt that it would do any good. But do get a copy of your post-op,

showing that you had your capsules out.

>

> The most important thing is, you did it! And now you can recover

your own unique body and health.

>

> Bindi

>

>

>

> PS is NASTY! Shocking comments...

>

>

> Ladies,

>

> you will not believe what I just endured - all I wanted to do

was to

> rush home and post this.

>

> Today was my post-op. The assistant took off my deep bandages

and

> the bra, and there they were! a bit smooshed, but perky, cute

> little A cups. Much better than I thought they'd be. And they

will

> only get better!! I felt like I was reunited with an old friend.

> She was explaining how to dress the stitches in the nipple, with

> gauze and ointment, when the ps opened the door. " Stand up " was

how

> she greeted me. She proceeded to look thru the bag of camis I

> bought and after telling me to get shelf ones and non shelf

ones,

> she picks a flimsy tshirt one and tells me to wear this. She

seemed

> very angry as she tossed them around. I made a comment that my

> breasts will fluff out, and she said beligerantly 'I don't know!

> this is how you could be! Since you never gave me your pre-op

pics,

> I don't know what you'll like it - this right one looks lower

than

> the left anyhow " Moving on, I asked about the operation, how it

> went, did she encounter anything unusual...and she said 'well,

when

> it was over, we all stood over you and cried'. I made a face and

> said " Cried? Why? " She gave me a pitying look and

replied 'because

> you had such a beautiful result and NOW look at you'.

>

> I swear on my soul that is the truth. I was so stunned - I

realized

> I had been threat from the moment she met me, and the truth was

she

> knew nothing about healing from explant! Women like me threaten

her

> very livlihood and she and the assistant stood there in stony

> silence as I took in the most offensive thing I have ever been

> told. Strangely, it didn't bother me on a vanity level (on a

> professional level, yes, it did) I smiled and said 'I have a

> beautiful " Result " now - this is as I was made and supposed to

be'.

>

> She replied 'well, life is all a series of choice, honey', and I

> also sugar-sweet smiled and replied 'oh believe me, I am

learning

> that every day'.

>

> My boyfriend reminded me of a conversation between him and the

ps

> before i was wheeled off to surgery - the ps prodded me to tell

the

> nurse why i wanted them out and that I was 'very unusual - quite

> atypical'. I just said 'I am over them, I want to be myself'

(like

> I wanted to get into this as I am about to go under!!) - My

> boyfriend said 'small breasted women are gorgeous! Look at

Audrey

> Hepburn,look at " and the ps got very defensive and interupted

> him 'oh, no, I didn't say you couldn't be beautiful, I am just

> saying that there is myths out there about implants being

unsafe,

> and especially after that Connie chung piece ran in 98.' I

> thought 'oh crap, she has been harboring all this resentment

towards

> me'.

>

> Even the massage lady seemed perplexed by choice. But do you

know

> what? I was not alone, nor was I affected by this. It was such a

> powerful experience, I felt all of your support, my darling

> boyfriend's, and God's presence in making me KNOW I was again

> beautiful as I should be. I will not soon forget this day.

>

> SO, I fear, dear ladies, that she doesn't know diddilly after

all

> about healing. And, could she/would she sabotage my healing by

> having me wear a tshirt only?

>

> 1) I believe you all wore your sports bra at nite too? I am

> thinking of following the way most of you did

>

> 2) I would never go see her again, but she wants to see me EVERY

> time I come for massage to make sure they are healing ok. My

> stitches (I didn't know I was gonna have any, and they are the

kind

> you must rip out) come out in one month. After that, I may never

go

> back, and do the lymph massage at another clinic.

>

> 3) I wonder if there is any way to not go to her again? Any

> thoughts? I am still tired and not sure WHAT to put on - ie when

> we went over train tracks, it hurt.

>

> My head is spinning. I knew she was an egomaniac, but I never

> thought it would take this turn. I am reminded of Wayne Dyer's

> quote " you must learn to be independant of the good opinion of

other

> people "

>

> So, I extend my gratitude to you all, for arming me with the

> information and bolstering my spirits so much that in the face

of

> this nasty woman, my belief in myself never wavered. Consider it

a

> small victory for " our side "

>

>

>

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okay thanks, Lynda - i'll let my regular doc know that is the normal

course for most explant.

> > > >

> > > > >WOW! What a nasty woman!! You hit it on the head, you are

> > > threatening her

> > > > >livelihood. I'm surprised she could hide all of that

nastiness

> > > until now.

> > > > >

> > > > >I'm so proud of you for the way you handled her. You have a

> > > wonderful

> > > > >attitude!! :) And you are right, you are beautiful now.

> > > > >

> > > > >Kenda

> > > > >

> > > > > > Ladies,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > you will not believe what I just endured - all I wanted

to

> >do

> > > was to

> > > > > > rush home and post this.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Today was my post-op. The assistant took off my deep

> >bandages

> > > and

> > > > > > the bra, and there they were! a bit smooshed, but perky,

cute

> > > > > > little A cups. Much better than I thought they'd be. And

> >they

> > > will

> > > > > > only get better!! I felt like I was reunited with an old

> > > friend.

> > > > > > She was explaining how to dress the stitches in the

nipple,

> > > with

> > > > > > gauze and ointment, when the ps opened the door. " Stand

up "

> > > was how

> > > > > > she greeted me. She proceeded to look thru the bag of

camis I

> > > > > > bought and after telling me to get shelf ones and non

shelf

> > > ones,

> > > > > > she picks a flimsy tshirt one and tells me to wear this.

She

> > > seemed

> > > > > > very angry as she tossed them around. I made a comment

that

> >my

> > > > > > breasts will fluff out, and she said beligerantly 'I

don't

> > > know!

> > > > > > this is how you could be! Since you never gave me your

pre-

> >op

> > > pics,

> > > > > > I don't know what you'll like it - this right one looks

> >lower

> > > than

> > > > > > the left anyhow " Moving on, I asked about the operation,

how

> >it

> > > > > > went, did she encounter anything unusual...and she

> >said 'well,

> > > when

> > > > > > it was over, we all stood over you and cried'. I made a

face

> > > and

> > > > > > said " Cried? Why? " She gave me a pitying look and

> > > replied 'because

> > > > > > you had such a beautiful result and NOW look at you'.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I swear on my soul that is the truth. I was so stunned -

I

> > > realized

> > > > > > I had been threat from the moment she met me, and the

truth

> > > was she

> > > > > > knew nothing about healing from explant! Women like me

> > > threaten her

> > > > > > very livlihood and she and the assistant stood there in

stony

> > > > > > silence as I took in the most offensive thing I have ever

> >been

> > > > > > told. Strangely, it didn't bother me on a vanity level

(on a

> > > > > > professional level, yes, it did) I smiled and said 'I

have a

> > > > > > beautiful " Result " now - this is as I was made and

supposed

> >to

> > > be'.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > She replied 'well, life is all a series of choice,

honey',

> >and

> > > I

> > > > > > also sugar-sweet smiled and replied 'oh believe me, I am

> > > learning

> > > > > > that every day'.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My boyfriend reminded me of a conversation between him

and

> >the

> > > ps

> > > > > > before i was wheeled off to surgery - the ps prodded me

to

> > > tell the

> > > > > > nurse why i wanted them out and that I was 'very

unusual -

> > > quite

> > > > > > atypical'. I just said 'I am over them, I want to be

myself'

> > > (like

> > > > > > I wanted to get into this as I am about to go under!!) -

My

> > > > > > boyfriend said 'small breasted women are gorgeous! Look

at

> > > Audrey

> > > > > > Hepburn,look at " and the ps got very defensive and

interupted

> > > > > > him 'oh, no, I didn't say you couldn't be beautiful, I am

> >just

> > > > > > saying that there is myths out there about implants being

> > > unsafe,

> > > > > > and especially after that Connie chung piece ran in 98.'

I

> > > > > > thought 'oh crap, she has been harboring all this

resentment

> > > towards

> > > > > > me'.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Even the massage lady seemed perplexed by choice. But do

you

> > > know

> > > > > > what? I was not alone, nor was I affected by this. It was

> >such

> > > a

> > > > > > powerful experience, I felt all of your support, my

darling

> > > > > > boyfriend's, and God's presence in making me KNOW I was

again

> > > > > > beautiful as I should be. I will not soon forget this

day.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > SO, I fear, dear ladies, that she doesn't know diddilly

> >after

> > > all

> > > > > > about healing. And, could she/would she sabotage my

healing

> >by

> > > > > > having me wear a tshirt only?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1) I believe you all wore your sports bra at nite too? I

am

> > > > > > thinking of following the way most of you did

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2) I would never go see her again, but she wants to see

me

> > > EVERY

> > > > > > time I come for massage to make sure they are healing

ok. My

> > > > > > stitches (I didn't know I was gonna have any, and they

are

> >the

> > > kind

> > > > > > you must rip out) come out in one month. After that, I

may

> > > never go

> > > > > > back, and do the lymph massage at another clinic.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3) I wonder if there is any way to not go to her again?

Any

> > > > > > thoughts? I am still tired and not sure WHAT to put on -

ie

> > > when

> > > > > > we went over train tracks, it hurt.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My head is spinning. I knew she was an egomaniac, but I

never

> > > > > > thought it would take this turn. I am reminded of Wayne

> >Dyer's

> > > > > > quote " you must learn to be independant of the good

opinion

> >of

> > > other

> > > > > > people "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So, I extend my gratitude to you all, for arming me with

the

> > > > > > information and bolstering my spirits so much that in the

> >face

> > > of

> > > > > > this nasty woman, my belief in myself never wavered.

> >Consider

> > > it a

> > > > > > small victory for " our side "

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

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. . because of her erratic behavior, I'd guess your surgeon is feeling the effects of her implants. Nothing you can do anything about though - except stay out of her sphere of influence. . . . Get that post-op report though! The stretching suggestion is strange. . . You'll quickly know how much you can move comfortably. Do what you can do with ease - but don't overdo it. It's possible that you could swell, despite the drains. . . The sports bra will help discorage that - but, should you start swelling ice can help. Just don't apply it directly to your skin. . . and don't leave it on more thjan 15-20 minutes at a time. Rogene

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Emerald Kittee <emeraldkittee@...

<mailto:emeraldkittee%40>> wrote:

Ladies,

you will not believe what I just endured - all I wanted to do was to

rush home and post this.

/I'm sending a URL for a neat kind of bra that might be good for

you with your size and need for some support while sleeping:

/http://www.titlenine.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=1032 & itemType=P\

RODUCT & iMainCat=4 & iSubCat=478 & iProductID=1032

/Congratulations, ~~/

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Again, thank you Dr. Rogene!! I am loving all the tips and writing it

all down. Yah, stretching seemed weird to me, too.

I am pretty sure she has silicone ones, she is a big supporter of them

apparently. Right on, getting the report on Wed., then I'll be out of

there.

>

> . . because of her erratic behavior, I'd guess your surgeon

is feeling the effects of her implants. Nothing you can do anything

about though - except stay out of her sphere of influence. . . . Get

that post-op report though!

>

> The stretching suggestion is strange. . . You'll quickly know how

much you can move comfortably. Do what you can do with ease - but

don't overdo it.

>

> It's possible that you could swell, despite the drains. . . The

sports bra will help discorage that - but, should you start swelling

ice can help. Just don't apply it directly to your skin. . . and don't

leave it on more thjan 15-20 minutes at a time.

>

> Rogene

>

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thanks, , that was so nice of you to send that. Title Nine has

nice products, I've had sports bras from them before.

> Ladies,

>

> you will not believe what I just endured - all I wanted to do was

to

> rush home and post this.

>

> /I'm sending a URL for a neat kind of bra that might be good for

> you with your size and need for some support while sleeping:

>

> /http://www.titlenine.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?

itemID=1032 & itemType=PRODUCT & iMainCat=4 & iSubCat=478 & iProductID=1032

>

> /Congratulations, ~~/

>

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,

What an attitude! That woman is so involved in her own livelihood

that she cannot see the forest for the trees.

Your attitude is wonderful. I would find another doc to remove the

stitches and go elsewhere for the lymph massage. I would never

darken her door again after I got the surgical and path reports.

Lynda

At 11:00 AM 11/27/2006, you wrote:

>WOW! What a nasty woman!! You hit it on the head, you are threatening her

>livelihood. I'm surprised she could hide all of that nastiness until now.

>

>I'm so proud of you for the way you handled her. You have a wonderful

>attitude!! :) And you are right, you are beautiful now.

>

>Kenda

>

> > Ladies,

> >

> > you will not believe what I just endured - all I wanted to do was to

> > rush home and post this.

> >

> > Today was my post-op. The assistant took off my deep bandages and

> > the bra, and there they were! a bit smooshed, but perky, cute

> > little A cups. Much better than I thought they'd be. And they will

> > only get better!! I felt like I was reunited with an old friend.

> > She was explaining how to dress the stitches in the nipple, with

> > gauze and ointment, when the ps opened the door. " Stand up " was how

> > she greeted me. She proceeded to look thru the bag of camis I

> > bought and after telling me to get shelf ones and non shelf ones,

> > she picks a flimsy tshirt one and tells me to wear this. She seemed

> > very angry as she tossed them around. I made a comment that my

> > breasts will fluff out, and she said beligerantly 'I don't know!

> > this is how you could be! Since you never gave me your pre-op pics,

> > I don't know what you'll like it - this right one looks lower than

> > the left anyhow " Moving on, I asked about the operation, how it

> > went, did she encounter anything unusual...and she said 'well, when

> > it was over, we all stood over you and cried'. I made a face and

> > said " Cried? Why? " She gave me a pitying look and replied 'because

> > you had such a beautiful result and NOW look at you'.

> >

> > I swear on my soul that is the truth. I was so stunned - I realized

> > I had been threat from the moment she met me, and the truth was she

> > knew nothing about healing from explant! Women like me threaten her

> > very livlihood and she and the assistant stood there in stony

> > silence as I took in the most offensive thing I have ever been

> > told. Strangely, it didn't bother me on a vanity level (on a

> > professional level, yes, it did) I smiled and said 'I have a

> > beautiful " Result " now - this is as I was made and supposed to be'.

> >

> > She replied 'well, life is all a series of choice, honey', and I

> > also sugar-sweet smiled and replied 'oh believe me, I am learning

> > that every day'.

> >

> > My boyfriend reminded me of a conversation between him and the ps

> > before i was wheeled off to surgery - the ps prodded me to tell the

> > nurse why i wanted them out and that I was 'very unusual - quite

> > atypical'. I just said 'I am over them, I want to be myself' (like

> > I wanted to get into this as I am about to go under!!) - My

> > boyfriend said 'small breasted women are gorgeous! Look at Audrey

> > Hepburn,look at " and the ps got very defensive and interupted

> > him 'oh, no, I didn't say you couldn't be beautiful, I am just

> > saying that there is myths out there about implants being unsafe,

> > and especially after that Connie chung piece ran in 98.' I

> > thought 'oh crap, she has been harboring all this resentment towards

> > me'.

> >

> > Even the massage lady seemed perplexed by choice. But do you know

> > what? I was not alone, nor was I affected by this. It was such a

> > powerful experience, I felt all of your support, my darling

> > boyfriend's, and God's presence in making me KNOW I was again

> > beautiful as I should be. I will not soon forget this day.

> >

> > SO, I fear, dear ladies, that she doesn't know diddilly after all

> > about healing. And, could she/would she sabotage my healing by

> > having me wear a tshirt only?

> >

> > 1) I believe you all wore your sports bra at nite too? I am

> > thinking of following the way most of you did

> >

> > 2) I would never go see her again, but she wants to see me EVERY

> > time I come for massage to make sure they are healing ok. My

> > stitches (I didn't know I was gonna have any, and they are the kind

> > you must rip out) come out in one month. After that, I may never go

> > back, and do the lymph massage at another clinic.

> >

> > 3) I wonder if there is any way to not go to her again? Any

> > thoughts? I am still tired and not sure WHAT to put on - ie when

> > we went over train tracks, it hurt.

> >

> > My head is spinning. I knew she was an egomaniac, but I never

> > thought it would take this turn. I am reminded of Wayne Dyer's

> > quote " you must learn to be independant of the good opinion of other

> > people "

> >

> > So, I extend my gratitude to you all, for arming me with the

> > information and bolstering my spirits so much that in the face of

> > this nasty woman, my belief in myself never wavered. Consider it a

> > small victory for " our side "

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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Most GP's are qualified to remove stitches and

watch for abnormal things like swelling, infection, etc.

Lynda

At 12:04 PM 11/27/2006, you wrote:

>Thanks, ladies. Your support means alot. Do you think a regular

>doctor (I love my general one) could remove the stiches and monitor

>my progress?? or would I have to go find another nut-job ps? :)

>

>

> >

> > >WOW! What a nasty woman!! You hit it on the head, you are

>threatening her

> > >livelihood. I'm surprised she could hide all of that nastiness

>until now.

> > >

> > >I'm so proud of you for the way you handled her. You have a

>wonderful

> > >attitude!! :) And you are right, you are beautiful now.

> > >

> > >Kenda

> > >

> > > > Ladies,

> > > >

> > > > you will not believe what I just endured - all I wanted to do

>was to

> > > > rush home and post this.

> > > >

> > > > Today was my post-op. The assistant took off my deep bandages

>and

> > > > the bra, and there they were! a bit smooshed, but perky, cute

> > > > little A cups. Much better than I thought they'd be. And they

>will

> > > > only get better!! I felt like I was reunited with an old

>friend.

> > > > She was explaining how to dress the stitches in the nipple,

>with

> > > > gauze and ointment, when the ps opened the door. " Stand up "

>was how

> > > > she greeted me. She proceeded to look thru the bag of camis I

> > > > bought and after telling me to get shelf ones and non shelf

>ones,

> > > > she picks a flimsy tshirt one and tells me to wear this. She

>seemed

> > > > very angry as she tossed them around. I made a comment that my

> > > > breasts will fluff out, and she said beligerantly 'I don't

>know!

> > > > this is how you could be! Since you never gave me your pre-op

>pics,

> > > > I don't know what you'll like it - this right one looks lower

>than

> > > > the left anyhow " Moving on, I asked about the operation, how it

> > > > went, did she encounter anything unusual...and she said 'well,

>when

> > > > it was over, we all stood over you and cried'. I made a face

>and

> > > > said " Cried? Why? " She gave me a pitying look and

>replied 'because

> > > > you had such a beautiful result and NOW look at you'.

> > > >

> > > > I swear on my soul that is the truth. I was so stunned - I

>realized

> > > > I had been threat from the moment she met me, and the truth

>was she

> > > > knew nothing about healing from explant! Women like me

>threaten her

> > > > very livlihood and she and the assistant stood there in stony

> > > > silence as I took in the most offensive thing I have ever been

> > > > told. Strangely, it didn't bother me on a vanity level (on a

> > > > professional level, yes, it did) I smiled and said 'I have a

> > > > beautiful " Result " now - this is as I was made and supposed to

>be'.

> > > >

> > > > She replied 'well, life is all a series of choice, honey', and

>I

> > > > also sugar-sweet smiled and replied 'oh believe me, I am

>learning

> > > > that every day'.

> > > >

> > > > My boyfriend reminded me of a conversation between him and the

>ps

> > > > before i was wheeled off to surgery - the ps prodded me to

>tell the

> > > > nurse why i wanted them out and that I was 'very unusual -

>quite

> > > > atypical'. I just said 'I am over them, I want to be myself'

>(like

> > > > I wanted to get into this as I am about to go under!!) - My

> > > > boyfriend said 'small breasted women are gorgeous! Look at

>Audrey

> > > > Hepburn,look at " and the ps got very defensive and interupted

> > > > him 'oh, no, I didn't say you couldn't be beautiful, I am just

> > > > saying that there is myths out there about implants being

>unsafe,

> > > > and especially after that Connie chung piece ran in 98.' I

> > > > thought 'oh crap, she has been harboring all this resentment

>towards

> > > > me'.

> > > >

> > > > Even the massage lady seemed perplexed by choice. But do you

>know

> > > > what? I was not alone, nor was I affected by this. It was such

>a

> > > > powerful experience, I felt all of your support, my darling

> > > > boyfriend's, and God's presence in making me KNOW I was again

> > > > beautiful as I should be. I will not soon forget this day.

> > > >

> > > > SO, I fear, dear ladies, that she doesn't know diddilly after

>all

> > > > about healing. And, could she/would she sabotage my healing by

> > > > having me wear a tshirt only?

> > > >

> > > > 1) I believe you all wore your sports bra at nite too? I am

> > > > thinking of following the way most of you did

> > > >

> > > > 2) I would never go see her again, but she wants to see me

>EVERY

> > > > time I come for massage to make sure they are healing ok. My

> > > > stitches (I didn't know I was gonna have any, and they are the

>kind

> > > > you must rip out) come out in one month. After that, I may

>never go

> > > > back, and do the lymph massage at another clinic.

> > > >

> > > > 3) I wonder if there is any way to not go to her again? Any

> > > > thoughts? I am still tired and not sure WHAT to put on - ie

>when

> > > > we went over train tracks, it hurt.

> > > >

> > > > My head is spinning. I knew she was an egomaniac, but I never

> > > > thought it would take this turn. I am reminded of Wayne Dyer's

> > > > quote " you must learn to be independant of the good opinion of

>other

> > > > people "

> > > >

> > > > So, I extend my gratitude to you all, for arming me with the

> > > > information and bolstering my spirits so much that in the face

>of

> > > > this nasty woman, my belief in myself never wavered. Consider

>it a

> > > > small victory for " our side "

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

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The stitches may have to stay in 10 days to 2 weeks.

Lynda

At 12:55 PM 11/27/2006, you wrote:

>You know, I don't get why she wants to see me 3 times a week, then 2

>times a week for 6 weeks. It cannot be totally necessary, when some

>of the ladies flew in from out other places, etc.

>

>She told me I may " poof " out - I asked her what that meant and she

>snapped 'swell, you may swell up' - and that I should wrap an ace

>bandage around me to flatten me out if that happens. (But I had

>drains, why would I swell up now?) She also said I should wear this

>ace bandage around my waist at all times in case I need to pull it

>up. ????

>

>Then, they pinned my sleeves to the side of my shirt so I wouldn't

>use my arms too much.

>

>And she showed me exercises to do - with my arms way above my head

>and stretch as much as I can. ? (sure, with pinned arms??)

>

>She told me to get out and not let this debilitate me as its 'not a

>big deal' of a surgery. (her advice ran counter to everything her

>staff was saying, too)

>

>I think she believed I was going to change my mind in the 11th hour

>and that is why she turned into such a monster. I am really

>confused by all the contrary advice - the explant is over, now it

>shouldn't be that complicated, right?

>

>Anyone else had any of these instructions?

>

>They said my stitches come out in a month - my dr. is out until

>tomorrow but if he can take them out I should be fine just seeing

>him. Afterall, many of you never saw the ps again after explant,

>right?

>

>

> > >

> > > >WOW! What a nasty woman!! You hit it on the head, you are

> > threatening her

> > > >livelihood. I'm surprised she could hide all of that nastiness

> > until now.

> > > >

> > > >I'm so proud of you for the way you handled her. You have a

> > wonderful

> > > >attitude!! :) And you are right, you are beautiful now.

> > > >

> > > >Kenda

> > > >

> > > > > Ladies,

> > > > >

> > > > > you will not believe what I just endured - all I wanted to

>do

> > was to

> > > > > rush home and post this.

> > > > >

> > > > > Today was my post-op. The assistant took off my deep

>bandages

> > and

> > > > > the bra, and there they were! a bit smooshed, but perky, cute

> > > > > little A cups. Much better than I thought they'd be. And

>they

> > will

> > > > > only get better!! I felt like I was reunited with an old

> > friend.

> > > > > She was explaining how to dress the stitches in the nipple,

> > with

> > > > > gauze and ointment, when the ps opened the door. " Stand up "

> > was how

> > > > > she greeted me. She proceeded to look thru the bag of camis I

> > > > > bought and after telling me to get shelf ones and non shelf

> > ones,

> > > > > she picks a flimsy tshirt one and tells me to wear this. She

> > seemed

> > > > > very angry as she tossed them around. I made a comment that

>my

> > > > > breasts will fluff out, and she said beligerantly 'I don't

> > know!

> > > > > this is how you could be! Since you never gave me your pre-

>op

> > pics,

> > > > > I don't know what you'll like it - this right one looks

>lower

> > than

> > > > > the left anyhow " Moving on, I asked about the operation, how

>it

> > > > > went, did she encounter anything unusual...and she

>said 'well,

> > when

> > > > > it was over, we all stood over you and cried'. I made a face

> > and

> > > > > said " Cried? Why? " She gave me a pitying look and

> > replied 'because

> > > > > you had such a beautiful result and NOW look at you'.

> > > > >

> > > > > I swear on my soul that is the truth. I was so stunned - I

> > realized

> > > > > I had been threat from the moment she met me, and the truth

> > was she

> > > > > knew nothing about healing from explant! Women like me

> > threaten her

> > > > > very livlihood and she and the assistant stood there in stony

> > > > > silence as I took in the most offensive thing I have ever

>been

> > > > > told. Strangely, it didn't bother me on a vanity level (on a

> > > > > professional level, yes, it did) I smiled and said 'I have a

> > > > > beautiful " Result " now - this is as I was made and supposed

>to

> > be'.

> > > > >

> > > > > She replied 'well, life is all a series of choice, honey',

>and

> > I

> > > > > also sugar-sweet smiled and replied 'oh believe me, I am

> > learning

> > > > > that every day'.

> > > > >

> > > > > My boyfriend reminded me of a conversation between him and

>the

> > ps

> > > > > before i was wheeled off to surgery - the ps prodded me to

> > tell the

> > > > > nurse why i wanted them out and that I was 'very unusual -

> > quite

> > > > > atypical'. I just said 'I am over them, I want to be myself'

> > (like

> > > > > I wanted to get into this as I am about to go under!!) - My

> > > > > boyfriend said 'small breasted women are gorgeous! Look at

> > Audrey

> > > > > Hepburn,look at " and the ps got very defensive and interupted

> > > > > him 'oh, no, I didn't say you couldn't be beautiful, I am

>just

> > > > > saying that there is myths out there about implants being

> > unsafe,

> > > > > and especially after that Connie chung piece ran in 98.' I

> > > > > thought 'oh crap, she has been harboring all this resentment

> > towards

> > > > > me'.

> > > > >

> > > > > Even the massage lady seemed perplexed by choice. But do you

> > know

> > > > > what? I was not alone, nor was I affected by this. It was

>such

> > a

> > > > > powerful experience, I felt all of your support, my darling

> > > > > boyfriend's, and God's presence in making me KNOW I was again

> > > > > beautiful as I should be. I will not soon forget this day.

> > > > >

> > > > > SO, I fear, dear ladies, that she doesn't know diddilly

>after

> > all

> > > > > about healing. And, could she/would she sabotage my healing

>by

> > > > > having me wear a tshirt only?

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) I believe you all wore your sports bra at nite too? I am

> > > > > thinking of following the way most of you did

> > > > >

> > > > > 2) I would never go see her again, but she wants to see me

> > EVERY

> > > > > time I come for massage to make sure they are healing ok. My

> > > > > stitches (I didn't know I was gonna have any, and they are

>the

> > kind

> > > > > you must rip out) come out in one month. After that, I may

> > never go

> > > > > back, and do the lymph massage at another clinic.

> > > > >

> > > > > 3) I wonder if there is any way to not go to her again? Any

> > > > > thoughts? I am still tired and not sure WHAT to put on - ie

> > when

> > > > > we went over train tracks, it hurt.

> > > > >

> > > > > My head is spinning. I knew she was an egomaniac, but I never

> > > > > thought it would take this turn. I am reminded of Wayne

>Dyer's

> > > > > quote " you must learn to be independant of the good opinion

>of

> > other

> > > > > people "

> > > > >

> > > > > So, I extend my gratitude to you all, for arming me with the

> > > > > information and bolstering my spirits so much that in the

>face

> > of

> > > > > this nasty woman, my belief in myself never wavered.

>Consider

> > it a

> > > > > small victory for " our side "

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

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Yeah, she sounds like a doozie. I wore a sports bra for two weeks,

24 x 7. The only thing I'm wondering about is this - if you don't

go for these regular visits like she wants, what if you have a

problem, she could say you didn't follow her advice - I'd hate to

see it come back to bite you. Her bedside manner is definitely not

great, but if you're looking better than you thought you would,

perhaps her surgical skill is good. Very unprofessional comments,

that's for sure.

Sis

> > >

> > > >WOW! What a nasty woman!! You hit it on the head, you are

> > threatening her

> > > >livelihood. I'm surprised she could hide all of that

nastiness

> > until now.

> > > >

> > > >I'm so proud of you for the way you handled her. You have a

> > wonderful

> > > >attitude!! :) And you are right, you are beautiful now.

> > > >

> > > >Kenda

> > > >

> > > > > Ladies,

> > > > >

> > > > > you will not believe what I just endured - all I wanted

to

> do

> > was to

> > > > > rush home and post this.

> > > > >

> > > > > Today was my post-op. The assistant took off my deep

> bandages

> > and

> > > > > the bra, and there they were! a bit smooshed, but perky,

cute

> > > > > little A cups. Much better than I thought they'd be. And

> they

> > will

> > > > > only get better!! I felt like I was reunited with an old

> > friend.

> > > > > She was explaining how to dress the stitches in the

nipple,

> > with

> > > > > gauze and ointment, when the ps opened the door. " Stand

up "

> > was how

> > > > > she greeted me. She proceeded to look thru the bag of

camis I

> > > > > bought and after telling me to get shelf ones and non

shelf

> > ones,

> > > > > she picks a flimsy tshirt one and tells me to wear this.

She

> > seemed

> > > > > very angry as she tossed them around. I made a comment

that

> my

> > > > > breasts will fluff out, and she said beligerantly 'I

don't

> > know!

> > > > > this is how you could be! Since you never gave me your

pre-

> op

> > pics,

> > > > > I don't know what you'll like it - this right one looks

> lower

> > than

> > > > > the left anyhow " Moving on, I asked about the operation,

how

> it

> > > > > went, did she encounter anything unusual...and she

> said 'well,

> > when

> > > > > it was over, we all stood over you and cried'. I made a

face

> > and

> > > > > said " Cried? Why? " She gave me a pitying look and

> > replied 'because

> > > > > you had such a beautiful result and NOW look at you'.

> > > > >

> > > > > I swear on my soul that is the truth. I was so stunned -

I

> > realized

> > > > > I had been threat from the moment she met me, and the

truth

> > was she

> > > > > knew nothing about healing from explant! Women like me

> > threaten her

> > > > > very livlihood and she and the assistant stood there in

stony

> > > > > silence as I took in the most offensive thing I have

ever

> been

> > > > > told. Strangely, it didn't bother me on a vanity level

(on a

> > > > > professional level, yes, it did) I smiled and said 'I

have a

> > > > > beautiful " Result " now - this is as I was made and

supposed

> to

> > be'.

> > > > >

> > > > > She replied 'well, life is all a series of choice,

honey',

> and

> > I

> > > > > also sugar-sweet smiled and replied 'oh believe me, I am

> > learning

> > > > > that every day'.

> > > > >

> > > > > My boyfriend reminded me of a conversation between him

and

> the

> > ps

> > > > > before i was wheeled off to surgery - the ps prodded me

to

> > tell the

> > > > > nurse why i wanted them out and that I was 'very

unusual -

> > quite

> > > > > atypical'. I just said 'I am over them, I want to be

myself'

> > (like

> > > > > I wanted to get into this as I am about to go under!!) -

My

> > > > > boyfriend said 'small breasted women are gorgeous! Look

at

> > Audrey

> > > > > Hepburn,look at " and the ps got very defensive and

interupted

> > > > > him 'oh, no, I didn't say you couldn't be beautiful, I

am

> just

> > > > > saying that there is myths out there about implants

being

> > unsafe,

> > > > > and especially after that Connie chung piece ran in 98.'

I

> > > > > thought 'oh crap, she has been harboring all this

resentment

> > towards

> > > > > me'.

> > > > >

> > > > > Even the massage lady seemed perplexed by choice. But do

you

> > know

> > > > > what? I was not alone, nor was I affected by this. It

was

> such

> > a

> > > > > powerful experience, I felt all of your support, my

darling

> > > > > boyfriend's, and God's presence in making me KNOW I was

again

> > > > > beautiful as I should be. I will not soon forget this

day.

> > > > >

> > > > > SO, I fear, dear ladies, that she doesn't know diddilly

> after

> > all

> > > > > about healing. And, could she/would she sabotage my

healing

> by

> > > > > having me wear a tshirt only?

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) I believe you all wore your sports bra at nite too? I

am

> > > > > thinking of following the way most of you did

> > > > >

> > > > > 2) I would never go see her again, but she wants to see

me

> > EVERY

> > > > > time I come for massage to make sure they are healing

ok. My

> > > > > stitches (I didn't know I was gonna have any, and they

are

> the

> > kind

> > > > > you must rip out) come out in one month. After that, I

may

> > never go

> > > > > back, and do the lymph massage at another clinic.

> > > > >

> > > > > 3) I wonder if there is any way to not go to her again?

Any

> > > > > thoughts? I am still tired and not sure WHAT to put on -

ie

> > when

> > > > > we went over train tracks, it hurt.

> > > > >

> > > > > My head is spinning. I knew she was an egomaniac, but I

never

> > > > > thought it would take this turn. I am reminded of Wayne

> Dyer's

> > > > > quote " you must learn to be independant of the good

opinion

> of

> > other

> > > > > people "

> > > > >

> > > > > So, I extend my gratitude to you all, for arming me with

the

> > > > > information and bolstering my spirits so much that in

the

> face

> > of

> > > > > this nasty woman, my belief in myself never wavered.

> Consider

> > it a

> > > > > small victory for " our side "

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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