Re: Getting Away from the Wicked Witch of the Breast

[Guest guest]

Good for you! If your nipples don't look right to you, you may want to consider using something other than the stuff she prepared for you . . . I'm sure the ladies here can tell you what they used. I'm concerned that you might be reacting to something in the preparation. Rogene Emerald Kittee <emeraldkittee@...> wrote: I called the ps's assistant again, and said I

wanted my report today, and I got it. (they even put in the report that I refused new implants, and stated I was 100% sure I wanted them out, and my option to be reimplanted was 'explained thoroughly')My regular doctor's assistant called and she said my dr wants me to see a nurse practioner there - She said they will look and see how I am healing and they may or may not take out the stitches. I am going Thursday for that - I had it done last Friday, so that would be 7 days. The nipples look really raw right now, my left one is really red and painful. I left a msg for another lymph massage person. There is a center in the hospital too, but I don't want to deal with running into her if I can help it at this point. Then, tonight, I will cancel all my appointments with them (they go til Jan!)

[Guest guest]

Rogene, I never thought of that! the dressing is a petroleum based

sticky gauze - aren't people sensitive to petroleum? I am so

grateful you mentioned this - I will bring all this to my dr on

Thursday.

Did anyone else out there cover that area in gauze as I am told to?

> I called the ps's assistant again, and said I wanted my

report

> today, and I got it. (they even put in the report that I refused

> new implants, and stated I was 100% sure I wanted them out, and my

> option to be reimplanted was 'explained thoroughly')

>

> My regular doctor's assistant called and she said my dr wants me

to

> see a nurse practioner there - She said they will look and see how

I

> am healing and they may or may not take out the stitches. I am

> going Thursday for that - I had it done last Friday, so that would

> be 7 days. The nipples look really raw right now, my left one is

> really red and painful.

>

> I left a msg for another lymph massage person. There is a center

in

> the hospital too, but I don't want to deal with running into her

if

> I can help it at this point.

>

> Then, tonight, I will cancel all my appointments with them (they

go

> til Jan!)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Not every one is sensitive to petroleum. However, I became sensitive to it after getting implants. Something I'd suggest is cleaning with hydrogen perioxide, then covering with sterile gauze if you have any drainage. . . I don't remember covering with anything after the bandages came off.Emerald Kittee <emeraldkittee@...> wrote: Rogene, I never thought of that! the dressing is a petroleum based sticky gauze - aren't people sensitive to petroleum? I am so grateful you

mentioned this - I will bring all this to my dr on Thursday.Did anyone else out there cover that area in gauze as I am told to?> I called the ps's assistant again, and said I wanted my report > today, and I got it. (they even put in the report that I refused > new implants, and stated I was 100% sure I wanted them out, and my >

option to be reimplanted was 'explained thoroughly')> > My regular doctor's assistant called and she said my dr wants me to > see a nurse practioner there - She said they will look and see how I > am healing and they may or may not take out the stitches. I am > going Thursday for that - I had it done last Friday, so that would > be 7 days. The nipples look really raw right now, my left one is > really red and painful. > > I left a msg for another lymph massage person. There is a center in > the hospital too, but I don't want to deal with running into her if > I can help it at this point. > > Then, tonight, I will cancel all my appointments with them (they go > til Jan!) > > >

[Guest guest]

, you could have problems if you should develop complications

and have not followed up with your surgeon whether you care for her a

whit or not. I'm just playing devil's advocate here (no, Sunny, no

really), as a medical person. Please remember you have entered the

medical system for care, and you certainly have rights within the

system, but you are expected to communicate with your doctor. Not

doing so can allow her to drop your care, and other doctors no matter

how they may like you, etc., are not happy and usually refuse to pick

up another doctor's case when that doctor is following usual

procedures and the patient is the one who is not. I like you, I'd

hate to see you get hurt here. No hydrogen peroxide on those delicate

skin areas around the nipples. Period!

> > I called the ps's assistant again, and said I wanted my

> report

> > today, and I got it. (they even put in the report that I refused

> > new implants, and stated I was 100% sure I wanted them out, and my

> > option to be reimplanted was 'explained thoroughly')

> >

> > My regular doctor's assistant called and she said my dr wants me

> to

> > see a nurse practioner there - She said they will look and see how

> I

> > am healing and they may or may not take out the stitches. I am

> > going Thursday for that - I had it done last Friday, so that would

> > be 7 days. The nipples look really raw right now, my left one is

> > really red and painful.

> >

> > I left a msg for another lymph massage person. There is a center

> in

> > the hospital too, but I don't want to deal with running into her

> if

> > I can help it at this point.

> >

> > Then, tonight, I will cancel all my appointments with them (they

> go

> > til Jan!)

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, ! Believe me, I have considered this - not 'cutting

off my nose to spite my face' as my mom would say . What an

awful position the ps has put me in. She barely would answer my

medical questions the other day, and had a foot out the door, and

was responding to my questions with major attitude and just 'yeah'

or 'no' like I should already know the answer. Since she has so

much anger towards me, I question her motives. And, I just can't

fathom going there to get insulted, plus, I am questionning BIG time

if she knows anything about explant. I am more fearful of her wrong

direction and possibly her sabotaging me to " prove she was right "

about me getting the implants out. My regular dr's office already

said they will pick up where she left off. So, I will follow the

ointment/gauze protocol for now, until my dr looks at it. I have a

very good relationship with this guy, and have seen him for years.

Do you think this sounds like a good plan?

> > > I called the ps's assistant again, and said I wanted

my

> > report

> > > today, and I got it. (they even put in the report that I

refused

> > > new implants, and stated I was 100% sure I wanted them out,

and my

> > > option to be reimplanted was 'explained thoroughly')

> > >

> > > My regular doctor's assistant called and she said my dr wants

me

> > to

> > > see a nurse practioner there - She said they will look and see

how

> > I

> > > am healing and they may or may not take out the stitches. I am

> > > going Thursday for that - I had it done last Friday, so that

would

> > > be 7 days. The nipples look really raw right now, my left one

is

> > > really red and painful.

> > >

> > > I left a msg for another lymph massage person. There is a

center

> > in

> > > the hospital too, but I don't want to deal with running into

her

> > if

> > > I can help it at this point.

> > >

> > > Then, tonight, I will cancel all my appointments with them

(they

> > go

> > > til Jan!)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Right, I am using Bactroban (they mix it with Nitropaste?) and that

petroleum gauze dressing, and then gauze. Glad it's similiar to

someone's

> >

> > Rogene, I never thought of that! the dressing is a petroleum

based

> > sticky gauze - aren't people sensitive to petroleum? I am so

> > grateful you mentioned this - I will bring all this to my dr on

> > Thursday.

> >

> > Did anyone else out there cover that area in gauze as I am told

to?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

If I were in your shoes, I would hate to go back to see the witch, but I

would. With your wonderful attitude, the old witch may soften and actually

come to realize how you feel. You have paid for care and it sounds like she

was going to be giving you excellent care, minus her attitude. If something

from your explant was to go wrong, she wouldn't be willing to help you if

you didn't follow up with her and you'd end up paying another doc to fix you

up. So, at least for the time being until you know you are going to heal up

well, I'd consider continuing to see her. You have all of the knowledgeable

ladies here to help you so if your PS does try to sabotage your healing,

they'll realize it and point it out to you. It's her medical license on the

line, I doubt she'd do anything intentional.

Just my thoughts...

Kenda

> Thanks, ! Believe me, I have considered this - not 'cutting

> off my nose to spite my face' as my mom would say . What an

> awful position the ps has put me in. She barely would answer my

> medical questions the other day, and had a foot out the door, and

> was responding to my questions with major attitude and just 'yeah'

> or 'no' like I should already know the answer. Since she has so

> much anger towards me, I question her motives. And, I just can't

> fathom going there to get insulted, plus, I am questionning BIG time

> if she knows anything about explant. I am more fearful of her wrong

> direction and possibly her sabotaging me to " prove she was right "

> about me getting the implants out. My regular dr's office already

> said they will pick up where she left off. So, I will follow the

> ointment/gauze protocol for now, until my dr looks at it. I have a

> very good relationship with this guy, and have seen him for years.

> Do you think this sounds like a good plan?

>

>

>

>

>>>> I called the ps's assistant again, and said I wanted

> my

>>> report

>>>> today, and I got it. (they even put in the report that I

> refused

>>>> new implants, and stated I was 100% sure I wanted them out,

> and my

>>>> option to be reimplanted was 'explained thoroughly')

>>>>

>>>> My regular doctor's assistant called and she said my dr wants

> me

>>> to

>>>> see a nurse practioner there - She said they will look and see

> how

>>> I

>>>> am healing and they may or may not take out the stitches. I am

>>>> going Thursday for that - I had it done last Friday, so that

> would

>>>> be 7 days. The nipples look really raw right now, my left one

> is

>>>> really red and painful.

>>>>

>>>> I left a msg for another lymph massage person. There is a

> center

>>> in

>>>> the hospital too, but I don't want to deal with running into

> her

>>> if

>>>> I can help it at this point.

>>>>

>>>> Then, tonight, I will cancel all my appointments with them

> (they

>>> go

>>>> til Jan!)

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

>

[Guest guest]

hi Kenda,

I appreciate what you are saying for sure. In thinking of

everything, though things like this come to mind - I'd have to

remember to take my bra off while I am at work, before I leave for

appointments, so the 'marks' disappear otherwise she will 'yell' at

me. I'd have to have the creepy/painful feeling of no support, then

find a way to put it back on after the appointment - it's just too

silly. I will have to lie constantly about what I am doing. In

light of the fact too that she mentioned that she gave her last

explant an underwire bra (her stories change) ! and she claims it

was the woman's fault for " letting it ride up " - instead of it being

her fault for giving a new explant patient a hard wire to put next

to her vulnerable flesh! That doesn't sound like she knew what she

was doing. She literally doesn't seem to remember what she tells me

from one day to the next now. First, she told me a soft jersey bra

would be what I need. When I reminded her of that, she said 'no,

you need to wear nothing'; Then it was camis, then it was back to

nothing. She also made a comment about the 'handful' of women who

came to her wanting them out. This TOTALLY differed with what she

told me initially and what her staff told me. I feel that the

emotional toll from going there constantly would wear on me. I

truly believe now she has no clue what she is doing. Taking them

out, yes, she was skilled, but from here on out, she is guessing.

She doesn't know about 'fluffing out' or having the tissue

supported. I have decided to go with my gut instinct on this, and I

will tell her why I am not coming back. Also, she made mention of

this last woman 'getting away from her' - I have to believe that

this woman was treated poorly as well. I have also found out she has

testified in favor of silicone implants - I don't want to

say too much to reveal her identity - but she is so far from being

on our side. She really hates Melmed, (the man who

gives 'misinfomration' as it was told as I was wheeled off to

surgery) and I represent that thinking.

She really thought I'd change my mind, that is why she became

caring before I got them out. Plus, she took my money, now she can

reveal how she really feels

I have learned alot more about her involvement in this silicone saga

from a staff member, and she is probably the worst of the worst.

We learn, hu!

> >>>> I called the ps's assistant again, and said I wanted

> > my

> >>> report

> >>>> today, and I got it. (they even put in the report that I

> > refused

> >>>> new implants, and stated I was 100% sure I wanted them out,

> > and my

> >>>> option to be reimplanted was 'explained thoroughly')

> >>>>

> >>>> My regular doctor's assistant called and she said my dr wants

> > me

> >>> to

> >>>> see a nurse practioner there - She said they will look and see

> > how

> >>> I

> >>>> am healing and they may or may not take out the stitches. I am

> >>>> going Thursday for that - I had it done last Friday, so that

> > would

> >>>> be 7 days. The nipples look really raw right now, my left one

> > is

> >>>> really red and painful.

> >>>>

> >>>> I left a msg for another lymph massage person. There is a

> > center

> >>> in

> >>>> the hospital too, but I don't want to deal with running into

> > her

> >>> if

> >>>> I can help it at this point.

> >>>>

> >>>> Then, tonight, I will cancel all my appointments with them

> > (they

> >>> go

> >>>> til Jan!)

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Incredible! . . .This ps has more than a few screws loose! I hope you'll let anyone know whosas they intend to go to her! Rogene

[Guest guest]

,

Darling shannon, I have to agree with you, she sounds like she might

lie about anything, it also sounds like she is trying to confuse

you. Telling you different things each time you ask, she doesn't

want the best for you. Just by how she is treating you, I would

report her, it is awful that she is saying all of this. If your

regular doctor is going to be monitoring you I think I would jump at

that. Just my opinion, I don't trust her!!!

Terri P

> > >>>> I called the ps's assistant again, and said I

wanted

> > > my

> > >>> report

> > >>>> today, and I got it. (they even put in the report that I

> > > refused

> > >>>> new implants, and stated I was 100% sure I wanted them out,

> > > and my

> > >>>> option to be reimplanted was 'explained thoroughly')

> > >>>>

> > >>>> My regular doctor's assistant called and she said my dr

wants

> > > me

> > >>> to

> > >>>> see a nurse practioner there - She said they will look and

see

> > > how

> > >>> I

> > >>>> am healing and they may or may not take out the stitches. I

am

> > >>>> going Thursday for that - I had it done last Friday, so that

> > > would

> > >>>> be 7 days. The nipples look really raw right now, my left

one

> > > is

> > >>>> really red and painful.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> I left a msg for another lymph massage person. There is a

> > > center

> > >>> in

> > >>>> the hospital too, but I don't want to deal with running into

> > > her

> > >>> if

> > >>>> I can help it at this point.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Then, tonight, I will cancel all my appointments with them

> > > (they

> > >>> go

> > >>>> til Jan!)

> > >>>>

> > >>>>

> > >>>>

> > >>>

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

, it does sound as if you're being careful in your planning. :-)

I get into the role of 'mum' pretty easily, and all I want is for you not

to experience problems with this fairly complex surgical procedure. I

don't want to be in charge of your care, that's for your physician, even

if she is a 'witch!' It sounds as if the PS uses her 'own' concoction to

dress the wounds, the nitroglycerin must be her little 'secret' success

ingredient, it would dilate the blood vessels, making for good blood supply

to the area, for good healing. It could make for some 'pinkness' in the

area

because of increased blood flow. You could probably use another safe

ointment instead without any harm, Polysporin would be all right. Since

you're hooked up with your regular doctor, and still have option to

stick with

Wicked Witch, <grin> I guess you're in the 'cat-bird seat.' Meaning

you're in control, but not shooting yourself in the foot either!

Take good care, sweetie,

[Guest guest]

Dear Mum ! You are so smart, yes, it is all pink! and that

is why, getting the blood vessels dialated, etc. Thanks for

explaining that. I appreciate the concern They are looking much

better already today. The massage made a difference in how I look

and feel.

xo

--- In , Crocker <dwcrn@...>

wrote:

>

> , it does sound as if you're being careful in your

planning. :-)

> I get into the role of 'mum' pretty easily, and all I want is for

you not

> to experience problems with this fairly complex surgical

procedure. I

> don't want to be in charge of your care, that's for your

physician, even

> if she is a 'witch!' It sounds as if the PS uses her 'own'

concoction to

> dress the wounds, the nitroglycerin must be her little 'secret'

success

> ingredient, it would dilate the blood vessels, making for good

blood supply

> to the area, for good healing. It could make for some 'pinkness'

in the

> area

> because of increased blood flow. You could probably use another

safe

> ointment instead without any harm, Polysporin would be all right.

Since

> you're hooked up with your regular doctor, and still have option

to

> stick with

> Wicked Witch, <grin> I guess you're in the 'cat-bird seat.'

Meaning

> you're in control, but not shooting yourself in the foot either!

> Take good care, sweetie,

>

>

[Guest guest]

, hooray for you. I think you just made a very healthy

choice. If I were you, I'd report her nasty abuse. Other women will

continue to suffer, if no-one stops her.

I'm proud of you for taking a stand and doing something that's going

to be good for you.

Love & Hugs Galore,

Sunny

> > > > I called the ps's assistant again, and said I

wanted

> my

> > > report

> > > > today, and I got it. (they even put in the report that I

> refused

> > > > new implants, and stated I was 100% sure I wanted them out,

> and my

> > > > option to be reimplanted was 'explained thoroughly')

> > > >

> > > > My regular doctor's assistant called and she said my dr wants

> me

> > > to

> > > > see a nurse practioner there - She said they will look and

see

> how

> > > I

> > > > am healing and they may or may not take out the stitches. I

am

> > > > going Thursday for that - I had it done last Friday, so that

> would

> > > > be 7 days. The nipples look really raw right now, my left one

> is

> > > > really red and painful.

> > > >

> > > > I left a msg for another lymph massage person. There is a

> center

> > > in

> > > > the hospital too, but I don't want to deal with running into

> her

> > > if

> > > > I can help it at this point.

> > > >

> > > > Then, tonight, I will cancel all my appointments with them

> (they

> > > go

> > > > til Jan!)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I want to say that I have not followed all of this conversation so if I missed

something,

forgive me...

I would not 'report' a doctor who has not seriously violated professional ethics

or standard

of care. This sounds more like a disagreement. There are, unfortunately, too

many plastic

surgeons who want nothing to do with removing implants - only putting them in.

This

does create a problem for women as we all know.

> > > > > I called the ps's assistant again, and said I

> wanted

> > my

> > > > report

> > > > > today, and I got it. (they even put in the report that I

> > refused

> > > > > new implants, and stated I was 100% sure I wanted them out,

> > and my

> > > > > option to be reimplanted was 'explained thoroughly')

> > > > >

> > > > > My regular doctor's assistant called and she said my dr wants

> > me

> > > > to

> > > > > see a nurse practioner there - She said they will look and

> see

> > how

> > > > I

> > > > > am healing and they may or may not take out the stitches. I

> am

> > > > > going Thursday for that - I had it done last Friday, so that

> > would

> > > > > be 7 days. The nipples look really raw right now, my left one

> > is

> > > > > really red and painful.

> > > > >

> > > > > I left a msg for another lymph massage person. There is a

> > center

> > > > in

> > > > > the hospital too, but I don't want to deal with running into

> > her

> > > > if

> > > > > I can help it at this point.

> > > > >

> > > > > Then, tonight, I will cancel all my appointments with them

> > (they

> > > > go

> > > > > til Jan!)

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Molly,

in a nutshell she insulted me and insinuated I am now ugly, and made

similiar comments as I was taken to surgery. While it may not

constitute a formal 'report' - a leter to the hospital

administrators may make her eat some humble pie at the very least.

> > > > > > I called the ps's assistant again, and said I

> > wanted

> > > my

> > > > > report

> > > > > > today, and I got it. (they even put in the report that I

> > > refused

> > > > > > new implants, and stated I was 100% sure I wanted them

out,

> > > and my

> > > > > > option to be reimplanted was 'explained thoroughly')

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My regular doctor's assistant called and she said my dr

wants

> > > me

> > > > > to

> > > > > > see a nurse practioner there - She said they will look

and

> > see

> > > how

> > > > > I

> > > > > > am healing and they may or may not take out the

stitches. I

> > am

> > > > > > going Thursday for that - I had it done last Friday, so

that

> > > would

> > > > > > be 7 days. The nipples look really raw right now, my

left one

> > > is

> > > > > > really red and painful.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I left a msg for another lymph massage person. There is

a

> > > center

> > > > > in

> > > > > > the hospital too, but I don't want to deal with running

into

> > > her

> > > > > if

> > > > > > I can help it at this point.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Then, tonight, I will cancel all my appointments with

them

> > > (they

> > > > > go

> > > > > > til Jan!)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>