Guest guest Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Hi Joanne, I do think, that a person's faith can help, and I am not totally familiar with the 12 step program. I do believe in God, and prayer to him can help us to resist aspects of any thing that is against bible principals, such as overeating, over drinking, or smoking. Following all those bible principals would result in better heath, and improved nutrition. However, one has to be careful of some programs, as even Satan quoted scripture to Jesus. Satan and his agents can look like an " angel of light " , 2 Corinthians 11:13-15. I would myself, not read L. Ron Hubbard's books. As he started his own religious group-Scientology. Notice their program costs thousands of dollars. Just because someone is spiritually minded, we have to be careful, as that person may not have God's spirit. There has been some discussion in Bee's group about, I think Alanon. Hope this helps. C. > > Oh , so wish we had had this video earlier, there are many I could have helped with this. Anyway I will file it and who knows? >  > For many years I visisted shrink after shrink trying to get my eating under control, and or help with all the other stuff I could clearly see was radiationg from this, but very littlethat worked, and in fact some o the theray I had made things worse, certainly made my PTSD worse, and self esteem affected by a lot of it >  > I only have one therapist now, and she is actually more of a friend than a therapist, she see things much like we do here, and she uses nutrition, and no drugs to treat herself in much the same way we do here >  > My friends from Alanon, none of them are professionals or anything like that,t hey are just every day folk that have chosen to deal with their lives in a spiritual non-drug way. They are really the only friends, apart from the folk here on this board that can understand me, and who give to me, in the sense of what I really need >  > Other folk in my life all need from me, if that makes sense, they are all pretty poorly with the diet and drugs and prescription drugs and so on. I am able to love and give to them, but sometimes this can exhaust me, when this happens it is to my friends at Alanon that I go running. They are happy to come ti church with me, go for walks in the country side and simply live simple whilst I get all my sadness off my chest. The troubled folk in my life cannot do this for me, but it is the troubled folk in my life who would benefit from all the things we share here >  > Anyway, we can only pass this stuff on to whom will listen, and this is often different than we actually expect. >  > There is an organisation called narconon that have an extremely high success rate using nutrition to help people beat addiction. They also run a therapy program designed by Ron L Hubbard, Bee recommends his work, I dont know if I will be able to get this at the lirary, the book she recommends is a bit costly. But this might be interesting >  > Nowadays I use the diet as a model to sort my life in general out. Just as we take good nutriton in and get the toxicity out, I try to bring good spiritual people, places and things into my life and do all I can to keep toxic people places and things out of my life. Alanon helps me to identify things that will bring me trouble and I think it does this well simply because there are no trained staff there. There are no medics, no councelloers, no psychiatrist or anything even remotely like that. All there is is eveyday folk like there is here at this site, and all we do is share our experiences as to how we escaped the clutches of either our own addictions or the addictions of others, which in some cases can be just as deadly >  > Alanon is voluntery, it is free, they dont even take your name and dont have a file on you, which is why I recommend it, nobody can exploit you there. Narcocon, which is defiantly the most successful rogram for helping folk with these illnesses is extemely expensive, $1000s of dollars. I would never have been able to afford that which is why I am so thankful for bee, she is offtering a similar service basically for free, and anything we do have to buy in relation to getting well is considerably cheaper than most similar therapies >  > When I get chance I will share more about all this, I am so behind with these emails, mainly because I cannot get online easily, but never mind something will work out >  > Love Joanne > > > ________________________________ > > To: fibromyalgiacured > Sent: Monday, 5 December 2011, 15:32 > Subject: Re: Margaret (12 step stuff etc) Mckenna > > >  > > Hi, > > I had mentioned about some documentaries. I watched this one, as I have one of his books. He says in this, that diet had a more success rate than alcoholics anonymous in curbing drinking. > > http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/russell-blaylock-nutrition-and-behavior-aspartame\ / > c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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