Re: Re: repeated contact by ps's office

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Your regular doctor sounds like a gem!

I'm way behind on messages, but from what I've read, you sound like you have been through a nightmare with the plastic surgeon who removed your implants. Eegads! She sounds like the Wicked Witch of the MidWest!

I hope you can continue care solely with your regular doctor. I am sure he is expert enough to tackle your post-explant healing. It doesn't take much. If he is at all experienced in surgical areas, he sure can handle this one.

I'm so glad you have him! Best wishes to you in your healing from here!

Hugs,

Patty

Re: repeated contact by ps's office

hi Sis,yes, my regular doctor is more than willing to continue care he said. He just thought that when the stitches are ready the nurse practioner can take them out - he said he'd assess if there was any infection, how it was healing, etc. He also said he was very sorry to hear about my experience. When I went for my physical in the fall, he had said that if a woman has an opportunity to remove her implants, she should, because they are better off, even if they 'feel fine'. He is soo great - he is a rare, rare find - he even advocates juicing. It is nice to give a doctor a thumb's up > >> > I have received a few calls, and did speak to the manager today. > We > > talked for nearly an hour - she wants me to give their office > > another chance. She apologized profusely and basically relayed > that > > the ps doesn't always think before she speaks, and doesn't know > what > > she intended by saying 'we cried over your body because you had a > > beautiful result and NOW look at you'. Basically, we went in > > circles about her 'caring about me and respecting me and never > > wanting to hurt me' She asked me to be

a 'teacher' and help the > ps > > learn from this, and speak to her on Monday. She admitted it was > > alot to ask a patient. I stressed that this is about her having a > > huge issue with explant without reimplantation, and she better > start > > referring these cases who come to her, and didn't appreciate being > > deceived in the process of choosing her. > > > > According to the staff, she is 'devastated, and astonished ' that > > this happened. Astonished is pretty amusing, considering you > can't > > really 'spin' what she said into something else. I mentioned all > > the comments right before surgery and of course, the mgr could not > > defend anything. She is a lovely person, so it was fine to speak > to > > her. She kept claiming the ps has such a great heart, and is a > > great person.

I just said ' I don't buy that but it's irrelevant, > I > > pay for skill and professionalism, I never thought she'd win an > > award for her personality' I also made it clear I do not trust > her, > > and pointed out conflicting info she gave me. I let them know > they > > mislead me about her explant experience.> > > > I was repeatedly told that she is 'very scared' for my outcome and > > it's a 'very complicated' healing process (???) so I need to think > > about coming back.> > > > I am getting a formal fedex-d apology tomorrow. I let her know I > > will reply in my time, but I am focusing on my healing and can no > > longer engage in this drama - she crossed a line.> > > > She put the medical assistant on, and she implored me to think of > > medical questions - so, as I posted

separately, she gave me a run > > down of how they do post op care. She offered to take the > stitches > > out for me in 4 wks, even if i get care elsewhere in the > meantime. > > I thought I should keep that option open until I could think about > > it further, because she said it could be when the ps is not > there, - > > also, she could even look at me next week to see how I am > healing. > > I said 'let me think about it, thank you for offering'.> > > > Then, as if she thought better of her offer, she told me she'd > have > > to check with the ps though, to make sure it was ok with her that > > she'd be seeing me and that she couldn't keep it from her > afterall. > > I interupted her to just forget it, I don't need anything from > her, > > and let's not put you in the middle of drama. I need

to move on. > > She insisted on discussing this further with the mgr then. > > > > Anyhow, I don't want to continue putting energy into this. How > > dysfunctional. The last thing I want is the ps' assistant going > to > > her and asking if she can see me, as if I NEED something from her > or > > as if I am 'admitting' that she is the only one to give me proper > > care. I was just keeping my option open of having someone remove > > breast stitches who does it all the time, but now it doesn't sound > > worth it. > > > > they've exhausted me with rehashing everything! But now, I have at > > least gone on record with the practice mgr, and we'll see what > this > > letter brings.> >>

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Yes, you absolutely do, and I think it is time to put all of this behind you and move forward. The last thing you need is this crap when you are just trying to get on with life and the real healing part of your explant path. Stress is a killer, maybe you should remind her of that...I hope you had a chance to tell her that she is just making things worse with all this added stress.

So, I hope you have put it all behind and are looking forward to the healing to come. It will take time, but you will get better! I hope you are finding this Christmas season a time of peace, hope and joy!

Patty

repeated contact by ps's office> > I have received a few calls, and did speak to the manager today. We > talked for nearly an hour - she wants me to give their office > another chance. She apologized profusely and basically relayed that > the ps doesn't always think before she speaks, and doesn't know what > she intended by saying 'we cried over your body because you had a > beautiful result and NOW look at you'. Basically, we went in > circles about her 'caring about me and respecting me and never > wanting to hurt me' She asked me to be a 'teacher' and help the ps > learn from this, and speak to her on Monday. She admitted it was > alot to ask a patient. I stressed that this is about her having a > huge issue with explant without reimplantation,

and she better start > referring these cases who come to her, and didn't appreciate being > deceived in the process of choosing her. > > According to the staff, she is 'devastated, and astonished ' that > this happened. Astonished is pretty amusing, considering you can't > really 'spin' what she said into something else. I mentioned all > the comments right before surgery and of course, the mgr could not > defend anything. She is a lovely person, so it was fine to speak to > her. She kept claiming the ps has such a great heart, and is a > great person. I just said ' I don't buy that but it's irrelevant, I > pay for skill and professionalism, I never thought she'd win an > award for her personality' I also made it clear I do not trust her, > and pointed out conflicting info she gave me. I let them know they > mislead me about her explant experience.>

> I was repeatedly told that she is 'very scared' for my outcome and > it's a 'very complicated' healing process (???) so I need to think > about coming back.> > I am getting a formal fedex-d apology tomorrow. I let her know I > will reply in my time, but I am focusing on my healing and can no > longer engage in this drama - she crossed a line.> > She put the medical assistant on, and she implored me to think of > medical questions - so, as I posted separately, she gave me a run > down of how they do post op care. She offered to take the stitches > out for me in 4 wks, even if i get care elsewhere in the meantime. > I thought I should keep that option open until I could think about > it further, because she said it could be when the ps is not there, - > also, she could even look at me next week to see how I am healing. > I said 'let me think about it, thank

you for offering'.> > Then, as if she thought better of her offer, she told me she'd have > to check with the ps though, to make sure it was ok with her that > she'd be seeing me and that she couldn't keep it from her afterall. > I interupted her to just forget it, I don't need anything from her, > and let's not put you in the middle of drama. I need to move on. > She insisted on discussing this further with the mgr then. > > Anyhow, I don't want to continue putting energy into this. How > dysfunctional. The last thing I want is the ps' assistant going to > her and asking if she can see me, as if I NEED something from her or > as if I am 'admitting' that she is the only one to give me proper > care. I was just keeping my option open of having someone remove > breast stitches who does it all the time, but now it doesn't sound > worth it. > >

they've exhausted me with rehashing everything! But now, I have at > least gone on record with the practice mgr, and we'll see what this > letter brings.> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _____________ ___> Cheap talk?> Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.> http://voice. >

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No, I don't feel the need to change the subject. If feels the need

to discuss her feelings regarding her explant experience, that's entirely up

to her. I'll let her make the decision when to terminate the ongoing

discussions. I would never be so bold as to tell her why she feels the way

she does either...

Kenda

> , dear,

> A stirred pot....gosh, I don't remember any more than that! I call it

> silicone brain! But it has to do with...no one in this grand

> 'hissy-fit' seems to be able to drop it! Including you! It could have

> been so simple, handled quietly in a private conversation between you

> and Dr. Plastic Surgeon. Men would have settled this 'immediament,' in

> my poor French. I've always liked that particular quality in men, that

> they 'keep their eye on the ball.'

> Somehow you and Dr. Plastic Surgeon set each other off. This often

> means there's a greater similarity between the parties than might appear

> on the surface. I'm not intending to be insulting here, , just

> blunt. Maturing is a long slow process, and many of us women didn't

> have good role models; my mother was an alcoholic 'girl' who never grew

> up! I had to learn how from others. Both you and Dr. Plastic Surgeon

> somewhere deep down are not very secure. I want to give you each a hug,

> or...perhaps a 'time out!'

> Does anyone else want to change the subject? Not from 's

> healing, but from the 'did, too,' 'did not,' 'did, too,' 'did not,'

> dialogue that's been absorbing most of the energy of the group??

> Come on, ! How are you coming in reading Quantum Healing? I

> bought it and have started...I bought it because I looked it up after

> you mentioned it, and found it looked interesting!

> Shalom,

>

>

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I'm not upset with you in the least.

Kenda

> Dear Kenda,

> You have good ideas, good sense, I'm interested in what you have to

> say...Why the edge in the voice? It sounds as if you're upset with

> me? ~~

>

>

>

>>

>> No, I don't feel the need to change the subject. If feels

> the need

>> to discuss her feelings regarding her explant experience, that's

> entirely up

>> to her. I'll let her make the decision when to terminate the ongoing

>> discussions. I would never be so bold as to tell her why she feels

> the way

>> she does either...

>>

>> Kenda

>

>

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It isn't always easy to trust and be supportive of one another, even in this fabulous community of women who are connected by shared struggles and the desire to be of help. Not one of us will always behave perfectly-- especially with our difficult symptoms, influencing our moods, etc.

What might seem like overly-emotional behavior could be another's strength. I hope that we could try not to judge one another. It isn't easy to be open with one's vulnerable feelings, especially on the subject of one's body, and the process of healing can be overwhelming and scary. We all need all the understanding we can get.

Those of us who find that the possibilities of a particular topic have been thoroughly explored can always skip over those threads, allowing others to keep it going if they so desire. I think the main thing is to keep trying to be kind.

Bindi

Re: repeated contact by ps's office

,you crack me up. I am going to wrestle that copy of Quantum Healing out of your hands for comparing me to the Wicked Witch ouch, I forget I musn't use my arms like that. Short of changing my number and moving I can't quite help them leaving messages and letters - and let's face it, I DID have to talk to the manager, THAT is the constructive thing to do. I am quite content on my new path, but this IS the place to vent afterall, and warn other women. If you don't like venting, you should join the Cyber Chess Club. A great deal of maturity, mon chere, , IS standing up for oneself.L'Chaim, you upstart :)PS I haven't actually started Quantum Healing yet, I watched a video on it and am finishing two other books first - what do you think?>> , dear,> A stirred pot....gosh, I don't remember any more than that! I call it > silicone brain! But it has to do with...no one in this grand > 'hissy-fit' seems to be able to drop it! Including you! It could have > been so simple, handled quietly in a private conversation between you > and Dr. Plastic Surgeon. Men would have settled this 'immediament,' in > my poor French. I've always liked that particular quality in men, that > they 'keep their eye on the ball.'> Somehow you and Dr. Plastic Surgeon set each other off. This often > means there's a greater similarity between the parties than might appear > on the surface. I'm not intending to be insulting here, , just > blunt. Maturing is a long slow process, and many of us women didn't > have good role models; my mother was an alcoholic 'girl' who never grew > up! I had to learn how from others. Both you and Dr. Plastic Surgeon > somewhere deep down are not very secure. I want to give you each a hug, > or...perhaps a 'time out!' > Does anyone else want to change the subject? Not from 's > healing, but from the 'did, too,' 'did not,' 'did, too,' 'did not,' > dialogue that's been absorbing most of the energy of the group??> Come on, ! How are you coming in reading Quantum Healing? I > bought it and have started...I bought it because I looked it up after > you mentioned it, and found it looked interesting!> Shalom,> >

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, I agree with Sunny. Boy, You're a real bitter person. We are all going through the same thing here...the reason people come here is to reach out and get help....you totally sabotaged that for me, without even giving me a chance. If you can't be positive and reach out to people then you don't belong here. People don't heal with negativity. I don't want to have anything to do with your negativity. If you can't be nice, than don't bother. Sunny <wellnessnow@...> wrote: , I find your post very invalidating and hurtful. To call what has been through a "hissy fit" reduces her situation merely to a "cat fight". If asserting oneself to protect against abuse makes you uncomfortable, then maybe that's what could be said...not to put down what has done for herself. and giving a healthy example for others to follow. It takes maturity to face what's really going on and to deal with it directly and honestly. That's what is doing, I believe.This whole topic has been a wonderful chance for women to empower themselves. Somehow, I think you missed that. You sound very bitter and cutting in your remarks. Onward in the spirit of freedom to express one's feelings, in a safe manner.God bless everyone,Sunny >> , dear,> A stirred pot....gosh, I don't remember any more than that! I call it > silicone brain! But it has to do with...no one in this grand > 'hissy-fit' seems to be able to drop it! Including you! It could have > been so simple, handled quietly in a private conversation between you > and Dr. Plastic Surgeon. Men would have settled this 'immediament,' in > my poor French. I've always liked that particular quality in men, that > they 'keep their eye on the ball.'> Somehow you and Dr. Plastic Surgeon set each other off. This often > means there's a greater similarity between the parties than might appear > on the surface. I'm not intending to be insulting here, , just > blunt. Maturing is a long slow

process, and many of us women didn't > have good role models; my mother was an alcoholic 'girl' who never grew > up! I had to learn how from others. Both you and Dr. Plastic Surgeon > somewhere deep down are not very secure. I want to give you each a hug, > or...perhaps a 'time out!' > Does anyone else want to change the subject? Not from 's > healing, but from the 'did, too,' 'did not,' 'did, too,' 'did not,' > dialogue that's been absorbing most of the energy of the group??> Come on, ! How are you coming in reading Quantum Healing? I > bought it and have started...I bought it because I looked it up after > you mentioned it, and found it looked interesting!> Shalom,> >

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While we appreciate your input, this was over the edge. Please do

not play the blame game as we, as survivors, have had enough of that.

Lynda

At 11:49 AM 12/2/2006, you wrote:

>, dear,

>A stirred pot....gosh, I don't remember any more than that! I call it

>silicone brain! But it has to do with...no one in this grand

>'hissy-fit' seems to be able to drop it! Including you! It could have

>been so simple, handled quietly in a private conversation between you

>and Dr. Plastic Surgeon. Men would have settled this 'immediament,' in

>my poor French. I've always liked that particular quality in men, that

>they 'keep their eye on the ball.'

>Somehow you and Dr. Plastic Surgeon set each other off. This often

>means there's a greater similarity between the parties than might appear

>on the surface. I'm not intending to be insulting here, , just

>blunt. Maturing is a long slow process, and many of us women didn't

>have good role models; my mother was an alcoholic 'girl' who never grew

>up! I had to learn how from others. Both you and Dr. Plastic Surgeon

>somewhere deep down are not very secure. I want to give you each a hug,

>or...perhaps a 'time out!'

>Does anyone else want to change the subject? Not from 's

>healing, but from the 'did, too,' 'did not,' 'did, too,' 'did not,'

>dialogue that's been absorbing most of the energy of the group??

>Come on, ! How are you coming in reading Quantum Healing? I

>bought it and have started...I bought it because I looked it up after

>you mentioned it, and found it looked interesting!

>Shalom,

>

>

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