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I know how you feel and all I can tell your is what a head Dr. told me we allow

are self's to get up set people don't or can't up set us unless we let them.

Read my story it might help you and get to a good Dr. and get fixed up.

http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=5 & t=9239

I went to the EEOC and sued my Co. because they locked me out of work coming

back off sick leave this lost. Don't get mad get even and don't even tell them

just smile at them.

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Phil

> From: vadielunn <trance325@...>

> Subject: when will it ever end?

>

> Date: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 4:43 PM

> past two years my body has been going

> thru ?me major changes.  figu1d out my nuts arent

> producing enough hormones to be normal, getting divorced on

> the 11th, bc of hypogonadism my body was forced to go thru

> andropause, my professional life just went down the drain,

> fbi found out about me buying nebido but no charges

> pressed,  i have to battle with no it all doctors, and

> my boss threating my job in a way where he cant fire me but

> makes my life vry hard.  i dnt know what to do, dnt

> know why i have so many obstacles  i just dnt know what

> to do anymore.

>

>

>

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  My understanding is Hypogonadism is andropause.  The good news on this is as

long as you have labs.  You can pretty much treat yourself.  This of course is

not protical nor something I advocate on a long term basis.   But as you post

your labs there certainly is nothing  preventing you from  getting Hcg ;and T

perscription should not be that hard even from a regular doctor.   The fact

remains that you are the best witness to know how your body is responding to

anything.

Everything else is a guideline.

As to your job just excell and rember your God given gifts will always make room

for you.  Many managers are intimidated by the gift of there employees.  

Mine is the same as yours but I kick him in the nuts with outstanding results

and awards he has never recieved.

I suffer in my marriage because of severe ED.  but I have come to respect my

affliction and do what I can to please my wife.  I do not accept the condition

and continue to implement those things that grow, safeguard and esteem being a

good man.

Remember greatness is often in the eye of the beholder.  But the command of

life and living well is simply to be at your best in all things.  Don't let a

broken penis destroy your total YOU.

Remember all the great days you had even when you did not have sex or a sexual

relationship.   You still had great days.   I  put my great days on

longterm usage until I can have great days sexually.

As for marrige and divorce.  I  hpoe this quote broadens the severity and

urgency of the battle to be a partnership especially during extreme

difficulty.  I told my wife before marriage no comparrison to the blessings of

our family, friends or people we here about.  This about us being us!!!

" When two people are under the influence of the most violent, most insane, most

delusive, and most transient of passions, they are required to swear that they

will remain in that excited, abnormal, and exhausting condition until death do

them part. " [G.B. Shaw]

Be on the offensive and flourish.  Never apologize for bettering yourself and

always forgive yourself when you stumble.  Mistakes comprehended and the

understanding of what is to be  obeyed is wisdom forever.

Fight back with goodness,

 

________________________________

From: vadielunn <trance325@...>

Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 4:43:29 PM

Subject: when will it ever end?

 

past two years my body has been going thru ?me major changes. figu1d out my nuts

arent producing enough hormones to be normal, getting divorced on the 11th, bc

of hypogonadism my body was forced to go thru andropause, my professional life

just went down the drain, fbi found out about me buying nebido but no charges

pressed, i have to battle with no it all doctors, and my boss threating my job

in a way where he cant fire me but makes my life vry hard. i dnt know what to

do, dnt know why i have so many obstacles i just dnt know what to do anymore.

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Very good post I am the same way but it gets hard when you know something

is wrong and Dr.'s, Family and Friends tell you it's all in your head just pick

your self up and get on with it. Bull Shi* I have to say after all the crap I

put up with from Dr.'s, Family even my Wife and Friends it is still on my mind

the things they said and did to me and you just don’t get over it. Yes my

wife and I are still together but it's not the same as it was before I got sick.

To know what I am saying read my story.

http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=5 & t=9239

I was in the prime of my life a drunk driver hit me in the rear end of my small

car. Got out of this 4 wheel drive Truck with a beer in his hand saying he seen

he was going to hit me and thought he could go around me. I sued him for

damages and got nothing it cost me money he filed for Bankruptcy. Then as you

see reading my Story it was all down hill from there.

When I had ED later on TRT for about 10 yrs I kept my wife happy I use a penis

pump to pump it up and a ring to keep it up. I could not reach an orgasm but I

took care of her now I don't have ED she is old her hormones are a mess and she

could care less about having sex. So what you do for others does not come back

around for you all the time. I say if someone is giving you a hard time don't

get mad it makes you sicker get even.

Life is to short for this crap. When you turn the other cheek and they still

hit you it's time to find different people to be around you.

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Phil

> From: <alexanderjones49@...>

> Subject: Re: when will it ever end?

>

> Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 10:00 AM

>   My understanding is Hypogonadism

> is andropause.  The good news on this is as long as you

> have labs.  You can pretty much treat yourself.  This of

> course is not protical nor something I advocate on a long

> term basis.   But as you post your labs there certainly is

> nothing  preventing you from  getting Hcg ;and T

> perscription should not be that hard even from a regular

> doctor.   The fact remains that you are the best witness

> to know how your body is responding to anything.

>

> Everything else is a guideline.

>

> As to your job just excell and rember your God given gifts

> will always make room for you.  Many managers are

> intimidated by the gift of there employees.   Mine is the

> same as yours but I kick him in the nuts with outstanding

> results and awards he has never recieved.

>

> I suffer in my marriage because of severe ED.  but I have

> come to respect my affliction and do what I can to please my

> wife.  I do not accept the condition and continue to

> implement those things that grow, safeguard and esteem being

> a good man.

>

> Remember greatness is often in the eye of the beholder. 

> But the command of life and living well is simply to be at

> your best in all things.  Don't let a broken penis destroy

> your total YOU.

>

> Remember all the great days you had even when you did not

> have sex or a sexual relationship.   You still had great

> days.   I  put my great days on longterm usage until I

> can have great days sexually.

>

> As for marrige and divorce.  I  hpoe this quote broadens

> the severity and urgency of the battle to be a partnership

> especially during extreme difficulty.  I told my wife

> before marriage no comparrison to the blessings of our

> family, friends or people we here about.  This about us

> being us!!!

>

> " When two people are under the influence of the most

> violent, most insane, most delusive, and most transient of

> passions, they are required to swear that they will remain

> in that excited, abnormal, and exhausting condition until

> death do them part. " [G.B. Shaw]

>

> Be on the offensive and flourish.  Never apologize for

> bettering yourself and always forgive yourself when you

> stumble.  Mistakes comprehended and the understanding of

> what is to be  obeyed is wisdom forever.

>

> Fight back with goodness,

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: vadielunn <trance325@...>

>

> Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 4:43:29 PM

> Subject: when will it ever end?

>

>  

> past two years my body has been going thru ?me major

> changes. figu1d out my nuts arent producing enough hormones

> to be normal, getting divorced on the 11th, bc of

> hypogonadism my body was forced to go thru andropause, my

> professional life just went down the drain, fbi found out

> about me buying nebido but no charges pressed, i have to

> battle with no it all doctors, and my boss threating my job

> in a way where he cant fire me but makes my life vry hard. i

> dnt know what to do, dnt know why i have so many obstacles i

> just dnt know what to do anymore.

>

>

>

>

>

>      

>

>

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Hi Phil:

Yikes, the last part of that story could be an echo of ours. My wife was not

just " asexual " after menopause she turned angry and upset about everything and

lost the capacity to do anything. I felt like I was looking at a mirror image

of how I was feeling when my hormones were in the tank and didn't know it or

what to do about it.

For what its worth I did as much R & D as I could on female HRT and found a local

clinic that made that their bread and butter. I offered to take the lead on

this (She said GOOD I can't do anything) and made the appointments, drove her to

them, sat in with her and explained what I was seeing (A first according to the

doctor) and ordered and picked up her HRT cream. She wasn't good about using it

so I became a bit of a pill and saw to it that she did use it. Then we went

back in with labs (Adjusted up a few times, added female levels of

testosterone), changed the type of gel and wow... Its like someone reset her to

normal. I don't know if any of that helps but I know of at least a few

marriages that went down in flames when Menopause hit.

It was murder living with her when her coming home signaled our kids locking the

doors to their room and me hiding behind the newspaper but I told myself over

and over. " This is Medical. Its not personal " and made up my mind that by God

I'm going to help her solve this as others have done to help solve my hormone

problems.

Hang in there!

- 186282

>

> > From: <alexanderjones49@...>

> > Subject: Re: when will it ever end?

> >

> > Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 10:00 AM

> > Â My understanding is Hypogonadism

> > is andropause. The good news on this is as long as you

> > have labs. You can pretty much treat yourself. This of

> > course is not protical nor something I advocate on a long

> > term basis.  But as you post your labs there certainly is

> > nothing preventing you from getting Hcg ;and T

> > perscription should not be that hard even from a regular

> > doctor.  The fact remains that you are the best witness

> > to know how your body is responding to anything.

> >

> > Everything else is a guideline.

> >

> > As to your job just excell and rember your God given gifts

> > will always make room for you. Many managers are

> > intimidated by the gift of there employees.  Mine is the

> > same as yours but I kick him in the nuts with outstanding

> > results and awards he has never recieved.

> >

> > I suffer in my marriage because of severe ED. but I have

> > come to respect my affliction and do what I can to please my

> > wife. I do not accept the condition and continue to

> > implement those things that grow, safeguard and esteem being

> > a good man.

> >

> > Remember greatness is often in the eye of the beholder.Â

> > But the command of life and living well is simply to be at

> > your best in all things. Don't let a broken penis destroy

> > your total YOU.

> >

> > Remember all the great days you had even when you did not

> > have sex or a sexual relationship.  You still had great

> > days.  I put my great days on longterm usage until I

> > can have great days sexually.

> >

> > As for marrige and divorce. I hpoe this quote broadens

> > the severity and urgency of the battle to be a partnership

> > especially during extreme difficulty. I told my wife

> > before marriage no comparrison to the blessings of our

> > family, friends or people we here about. This about us

> > being us!!!

> >

> > " When two people are under the influence of the most

> > violent, most insane, most delusive, and most transient of

> > passions, they are required to swear that they will remain

> > in that excited, abnormal, and exhausting condition until

> > death do them part. " [G.B. Shaw]

> >

> > Be on the offensive and flourish. Never apologize for

> > bettering yourself and always forgive yourself when you

> > stumble. Mistakes comprehended and the understanding of

> > what is to be  obeyed is wisdom forever.

> >

> > Fight back with goodness,

> >

> >

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: vadielunn <trance325@...>

> >

> > Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 4:43:29 PM

> > Subject: when will it ever end?

> >

> > Â

> > past two years my body has been going thru ?me major

> > changes. figu1d out my nuts arent producing enough hormones

> > to be normal, getting divorced on the 11th, bc of

> > hypogonadism my body was forced to go thru andropause, my

> > professional life just went down the drain, fbi found out

> > about me buying nebido but no charges pressed, i have to

> > battle with no it all doctors, and my boss threating my job

> > in a way where he cant fire me but makes my life vry hard. i

> > dnt know what to do, dnt know why i have so many obstacles i

> > just dnt know what to do anymore.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Â Â Â

> >

> >

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this is get and I know full well it works on women I just posted a new

thread about my wife she can't sleep.

/message/59065

I have done all I can do with her you can lead a house to water but you can't

make it drink it.

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Phil

> From: james186282 <pillow@...>

> Subject: Re: when will it ever end?

>

> Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 10:53 AM

> Hi Phil:

>

> Yikes, the last part of that story could be an echo of

> ours.  My wife was not just " asexual " after menopause

> she turned angry and upset about everything and lost the

> capacity to do anything.  I felt like I was looking at

> a mirror image of how I was feeling when my hormones were in

> the tank and didn't know it or what to do about it.

>

> For what its worth I did as much R & D as I could on

> female HRT and found a local clinic that made that their

> bread and butter.  I offered to take the lead on this

> (She said GOOD I can't do anything) and made the

> appointments, drove her to them, sat in with her and

> explained what I was seeing (A first according to the

> doctor) and ordered and picked up her HRT cream.  She

> wasn't good about using it so I became a bit of a pill and

> saw to it that she did use it.  Then we went back in

> with labs (Adjusted up a few times, added female levels of

> testosterone), changed the type of gel and wow...  Its

> like someone reset her to normal.  I don't know if any

> of that helps but I know of at least a few marriages that

> went down in flames when Menopause hit.

>

> It was murder living with her when her coming home signaled

> our kids locking the doors to their room and me hiding

> behind the newspaper but I told myself over and over. 

> " This is Medical.  Its not personal " and made up my

> mind that by God I'm going to help her solve this as others

> have done to help solve my hormone problems.

>

> Hang in there!

>

> - 186282

>

>

> >

> > > From:

> <alexanderjones49@...>

> > > Subject: Re: when will it ever

> end?

> > >

> > > Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 10:00 AM

> > >   My understanding is Hypogonadism

> > > is andropause.  The good news on this is

> as long as you

> > > have labs.  You can pretty much treat

> yourself.  This of

> > > course is not protical nor something I advocate

> on a long

> > > term basis.   But as you post your labs

> there certainly is

> > > nothing  preventing you from 

> getting Hcg ;and T

> > > perscription should not be that hard even from a

> regular

> > > doctor.   The fact remains that you are

> the best witness

> > > to know how your body is responding to anything.

> > >

> > > Everything else is a guideline.

> > >

> > > As to your job just excell and rember your God

> given gifts

> > > will always make room for you.  Many

> managers are

> > > intimidated by the gift of there employees.Â

>   Mine is the

> > > same as yours but I kick him in the nuts with

> outstanding

> > > results and awards he has never recieved.

> > >

> > > I suffer in my marriage because of severe

> ED.  but I have

> > > come to respect my affliction and do what I can

> to please my

> > > wife.  I do not accept the condition and

> continue to

> > > implement those things that grow, safeguard and

> esteem being

> > > a good man.

> > >

> > > Remember greatness is often in the eye of the

> beholder.Â

> > > But the command of life and living well is simply

> to be at

> > > your best in all things.  Don't let a

> broken penis destroy

> > > your total YOU.

> > >

> > > Remember all the great days you had even when you

> did not

> > > have sex or a sexual relationship.   You

> still had great

> > > days.   I  put my great days on

> longterm usage until I

> > > can have great days sexually.

> > >

> > > As for marrige and divorce.  I 

> hpoe this quote broadens

> > > the severity and urgency of the battle to be a

> partnership

> > > especially during extreme difficulty.  I

> told my wife

> > > before marriage no comparrison to the blessings

> of our

> > > family, friends or people we here about. 

> This about us

> > > being us!!!

> > >

> > > " When two people are under the influence of the

> most

> > > violent, most insane, most delusive, and most

> transient of

> > > passions, they are required to swear that they

> will remain

> > > in that excited, abnormal, and exhausting

> condition until

> > > death do them part. " [G.B. Shaw]

> > >

> > > Be on the offensive and flourish.  Never

> apologize for

> > > bettering yourself and always forgive yourself

> when you

> > > stumble.  Mistakes comprehended and

> the understanding of

> > > what is to be  obeyed is wisdom forever.

> > >

> > > Fight back with goodness,

> > >

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: vadielunn <trance325@...>

> > >

> > > Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 4:43:29 PM

> > > Subject: when will it ever end?

> > >

> > >  

> > > past two years my body has been going thru ?me

> major

> > > changes. figu1d out my nuts arent producing

> enough hormones

> > > to be normal, getting divorced on the 11th, bc

> of

> > > hypogonadism my body was forced to go thru

> andropause, my

> > > professional life just went down the drain, fbi

> found out

> > > about me buying nebido but no charges pressed, i

> have to

> > > battle with no it all doctors, and my boss

> threating my job

> > > in a way where he cant fire me but makes my life

> vry hard. i

> > > dnt know what to do, dnt know why i have so many

> obstacles i

> > > just dnt know what to do anymore.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >      

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

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Good for you .  Way to help your wife.

Bill

________________________________

From: james186282 <pillow@...>

Sent: Sun, May 23, 2010 10:53:29 AM

Subject: Re: when will it ever end?

 

Hi Phil:

Yikes, the last part of that story could be an echo of ours. My wife was not

just " asexual " after menopause she turned angry and upset about everything and

lost the capacity to do anything. I felt like I was looking at a mirror image of

how I was feeling when my hormones were in the tank and didn't know it or what

to do about it.

For what its worth I did as much R & D as I could on female HRT and found a local

clinic that made that their bread and butter. I offered to take the lead on this

(She said GOOD I can't do anything) and made the appointments, drove her to

them, sat in with her and explained what I was seeing (A first according to the

doctor) and ordered and picked up her HRT cream. She wasn't good about using it

so I became a bit of a pill and saw to it that she did use it. Then we went back

in with labs (Adjusted up a few times, added female levels of testosterone),

changed the type of gel and wow... Its like someone reset her to normal. I don't

know if any of that helps but I know of at least a few marriages that went down

in flames when Menopause hit.

It was murder living with her when her coming home signaled our kids locking the

doors to their room and me hiding behind the newspaper but I told myself over

and over. " This is Medical. Its not personal " and made up my mind that by God

I'm going to help her solve this as others have done to help solve my hormone

problems.

Hang in there!

- 186282

>

> > From: <alexanderjones49@...>

> > Subject: Re: when will it ever end?

> >

> > Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 10:00 AM

> > Â My understanding is Hypogonadism

> > is andropause. The good news on this is as long as you

> > have labs. You can pretty much treat yourself. This of

> > course is not protical nor something I advocate on a long

> > term basis.  But as you post your labs there certainly is

> > nothing preventing you from getting Hcg ;and T

> > perscription should not be that hard even from a regular

> > doctor.  The fact remains that you are the best witness

> > to know how your body is responding to anything.

> >

> > Everything else is a guideline.

> >

> > As to your job just excell and rember your God given gifts

> > will always make room for you. Many managers are

> > intimidated by the gift of there employees.  Mine is the

> > same as yours but I kick him in the nuts with outstanding

> > results and awards he has never recieved.

> >

> > I suffer in my marriage because of severe ED. but I have

> > come to respect my affliction and do what I can to please my

> > wife. I do not accept the condition and continue to

> > implement those things that grow, safeguard and esteem being

> > a good man.

> >

> > Remember greatness is often in the eye of the beholder.Â

> > But the command of life and living well is simply to be at

> > your best in all things. Don't let a broken penis destroy

> > your total YOU.

> >

> > Remember all the great days you had even when you did not

> > have sex or a sexual relationship.  You still had great

> > days.  I put my great days on longterm usage until I

> > can have great days sexually.

> >

> > As for marrige and divorce. I hpoe this quote broadens

> > the severity and urgency of the battle to be a partnership

> > especially during extreme difficulty. I told my wife

> > before marriage no comparrison to the blessings of our

> > family, friends or people we here about. This about us

> > being us!!!

> >

> > " When two people are under the influence of the most

> > violent, most insane, most delusive, and most transient of

> > passions, they are required to swear that they will remain

> > in that excited, abnormal, and exhausting condition until

> > death do them part. " [G.B. Shaw]

> >

> > Be on the offensive and flourish. Never apologize for

> > bettering yourself and always forgive yourself when you

> > stumble. Mistakes comprehended and the understanding of

> > what is to be  obeyed is wisdom forever.

> >

> > Fight back with goodness,

> >

> >

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: vadielunn <trance325@...>

> >

> > Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 4:43:29 PM

> > Subject: when will it ever end?

> >

> > Â

> > past two years my body has been going thru ?me major

> > changes. figu1d out my nuts arent producing enough hormones

> > to be normal, getting divorced on the 11th, bc of

> > hypogonadism my body was forced to go thru andropause, my

> > professional life just went down the drain, fbi found out

> > about me buying nebido but no charges pressed, i have to

> > battle with no it all doctors, and my boss threating my job

> > in a way where he cant fire me but makes my life vry hard. i

> > dnt know what to do, dnt know why i have so many obstacles i

> > just dnt know what to do anymore.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Â Â Â

> >

> >

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