Re: Dr. Cheney on MSM: Pain Relief, More on Detox

[Guest guest]

We used to use MSM for the crippled crows at the wildlife centre I

worked at! It helped them immensely!! I know, some people wondered

why we saved crows --- hey, they're all God's critters!!

Love, Sunny

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wrote:

>

> Very interesting article.

> , married to DH Mark

> Momma to four girly girls~

> 16 Kaitlyn 13 Bethany 10 Kylie 2

> and three awesome boys~

> Branden 20 Justen 18 and Ethan 2

> STOP TELLING GOD HOW BIG YOUR STORM IS.

> INSTEAD, TELL THE STORM HOW BIG YOUR GOD IS.

>

>

> Dr. Cheney on MSM:

> Pain Relief, Detox, Anti-Yeast, Allergy Relief

> http://www.dfwcfids.org/medical/msm.html

>

> Written by Carol Sieverling, this information is based on tapes of

her

> October 2000 visit to Dr. Cheney. He gave permission to share this

information, but

> has not reviewed or edited it.

>

> Regarding the supplement MSM (Methylsulfonylmethane), Dr. Cheney

stated " I

> really like it. It's wonderful stuff. " He recommended the book The

Miracle of

> MSM: The Natural Solution for Pain by Stanley ,

Regelson &

> Zucker. He said, " Great book. Everything you'd ever want to know

about MSM,

> written by a physician who's used it for 30 years in his patient

population. "

>

> Dr. Cheney described five benefits of MSM.

>

> (1) " MSM itself has the toxicity of water - it's non-toxic. But

it's a very

> potent detoxifier. If you take too much MSM, you can mobilize too

many toxins

> too quickly. It can even mobilize heavy metals, so you have to be

cautious

> about the dose. Start low and go slow - work up gradually to the

therapeutic dose,

> which is 6 to 9 grams a day. Most CFIDS patients can work up to 6

gms a day,

> but from there it can be a rocky road. "

>

> (2) " MSM is a very potent anti-yeast medication. It causes yeast

to blow up.

> Well, basically they melt. Their cell walls are destroyed. Again,

you see

> herxheimer reactions if the dose is too high. "

>

> (3) " Pain relief from MSM can be significant, particularly at 6 to

9 gms a

> day. This applies to most any pain, because most pain is toxicity

related. Some

> of the pain relief accounts are pretty impressive. It's typical to

hear at 6

> gms, nothing, 8 gms, no relief, then suddenly at 10 gms the pain

is gone. There

> seems to be a threshold you have to reach and then boom. The

threshold will

> vary from person to person. I encourage patients to work gradually

up to 9 gms.

> If the pain still has not resolved, I may try to push some

patients to 12

> gms. I always get a little bit concerned though, when they get to

12 gms because

> of one patient's experience, which I'll tell you about. "

>

> (4) " MSM also helps allergies. The mucous barrier is a sulfur

barrier, and

> the sulfur binds to allergens and keeps them away from your nasal

and sinus

> mucosa so you don't get allergies. "

>

> (5) " Another reason for CFIDS patients to take MSM is that if you

measure

> sulfur levels in their blood and urine, most patients are usually

very low.

> Patients get sulfur depletion very quickly trying to cope with the

toxicity of this

> illness. "

>

> Dr. Cheney had one patient who decided on his own to start with 12

grams of

> MSM a day. About a week into the treatment he had what Cheney

called " sudden

> spontaneous detox " . He was extremely ill with diarrhea, vomiting

and flu-like

> symptoms. He also experienced what Cheney referred to as " suicidal

ideation " -

> he wanted to kill himself. The episode lasted almost 12 hours and

then abruptly

> stopped. The patient then felt much better. Cheney believes that

the suicidal

> urges were the result of toxins that had been mobilized by the MSM

and

> carried to the brain before being eliminated. The toxins

destabilized him

> psychologically for a time. Obviously, this is very dangerous and

definitely to be

> avoided. Start with a low dose and advance slowly. Cheney has

never had a patient

> who gradually worked up to 12 grams experience an episode like

this, but he

> warns patients to be very cautious with the higher doses.

>

> Cheney stressed the importance of buying a pharmaceutical grade

MSM. As

> already mentioned, sulfur binds to toxins, which makes it a very

potent and

> effective detoxifier. However, it also means that if manufactured

in a non-sterile

> environment, it will pick up whatever is in the environment. Think

of it as a

> sponge for toxins. If itÌs made in a garage in Mexico, it will

absorb the toxins

> in the garage. MSM can be among the most toxic supplements on the

market if

> it is exposed to toxic materials during production. Buy a quality

product. Both

> NEEDS (needs.com, 1-800-634-1380) and ProHealth

(immunesupport.com,

> 1-800-366-6056) carry MSM.

>

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