Re:

February 2, 2011

thanks Joanne, ya I felt a little shifty about posting but I did anyway.

Actually there is a big " vote for this " button on the right, lol. I don't see

any diggs counted, but those kind of these could obviously help a lot also.

Thanks,

~

>

> Subject: A chance to reach literally a couple MILLION

people about Lyme

> To: fibromyalgiacured

> Date: Friday, 28 January, 2011, 21:19

>

> Â

>

> It turns out my Lyme recovery (thus far) story is actually almost winning that

video contest! Thanks if you already heard about this on another Lyme related

forum!

>

> http://naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=77FF396DE503FF5ECCD3EF0B84066374

>

> Researching NaturalNews.com's traffic levels, it seems LITERALLY a couple

MILLION people would be reached by the article that announces the winners! Maybe

much more. If I win, I can make a statement that could really help raise

awareness of Lyme disease for a huge number of people! Please take 20 seconds to

vote for my video. Yes, I also want to win for personal reasons such as

promoting my projects like a natural cancer treatments. But that is no joke

either because natural cancer treatments actually work:

>

http://scientificliving.net/2011/01/liposomal-ubiquinol-coqh-for-the-treatment-a\

nd-cure-of-cancer/

>

> So because of that I apologize if this message is spam to you!

>

> Thanks!

> ~

>

March 14, 2011

Joanne,

I think you should start making youtube videos, I bet you would have a huge fan

response!

Hugs,

Carol

To: fibromyalgiacured

From: joannesford@...

Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:28:15 +0000

Subject: Re:

They are going to be checking me for ulcers in my small intestine. When I do not

know, the NHS in England is .................... I cant even tell you.

Anyway, I may have ulcers, I may not. I may have had them at one time or they

may well have gone. All I can tell you is all my troubles with my bowel have

gone, except when I have a flare, like I did two weeks ago but even then it was

only very mild

, what you need to undestand is what caused your ulcers. I know the doctors

have many different explanations but the fact is this, ulcers only occur in the

gut of people that have a lot of toxicity and who have an imbalance in their gut

flora. this could be any toxicity, mercury, aliminium, radiation, sugar, starch,

some kind of medication you have been taking etc, and the bacterias that are not

working as they should be........................ well their are 2 trillion of

them so I wont bother naming them all or trying to fathom which ones are not

working correctly in you, instead I will say to you this. Feed your immune

system

your immune system was given to you by God and it is perhaps the most

intelligent part of you and certainly the most valuble part of you when it comes

to your health. Your immune system is capable of curing you of anything. How do

I know. I know because there is no such thing as an incurable disease, people

get cured from incurable diseaeses every day

Now how can I be confident that feeding the immune system is the answer. I know

that feeding the immune system is the answer because when I visit other sites I

listen to other peoples shares and always, over and over the people that are

gaining the most recovery are those minmising their chemical medication and

instead focusing on nurturing their immune system. I have seen this everwhere I

go, and better still I have seen it with myself and with other people in my life

Now I dont know how much you follow the threads here but most of us are low

carbing, and the same folk that are low carbibg in general eat only natural food

and take certain supplements (In my case the supplements recommended by Bee)

When we eat in this way and use the supplemnts also, drink plenty of water and

use sea salt etc, our body just naturally go into detox mode and best of all it

stays in it

So what does this mean. Well it means that antioxidents travel through our body

brushing up the toxicity, rather like a vacuum cleaner. As it collects the yucky

stuff it takes it to our lymph nodes and other detoxing pathways and simply

ensures that the next time we pee the toxins are taken out of us. yes, we dont

really see or feel anything regarding this this just happens. Also if you use

saunas or epson salts the body can more easily remove toxicity through the skin.

If we sweat this removes toxins too

We do not really notuce the actual detoxing apart from that we might pee more

because we usually drink more water

Where the change that we will notice might occur is in healing reactions

Where as right now you may struggle with bowel problems these more than likely

will start to improve but instead you might have other healing reactions, ie

sweating, or a rash or feeling nauseus etc.

It is hard to say what healing reactions you will have we all have different,

but the good news is these are usually milder than our illness and whilst we are

having the healing reactions we can actually see our symptoms from our original

illness decreasing

Now if you have read the posts that I have posted this week you will see that in

the main I am insisting on Ketosis. That is eating less than 30g of carbs a day

and eating a very lot of good fats daily. to understand this you will need to

study Bees site more

It is not always essencial to be in ketosis to get recovery and indeed a lot of

people cannot achieve it, but if you are able to, in my view your body will

detox muxh more effectively. anyway if you have a go andfail, do not loose

sleep, just come back here and tell us what is happening we might be able to

help you get a better result

the main thing you need to remeber is this. as your body lets go of the toxic

stuff in it its need for pathogens will go right down. Over the weeks and months

your immune system will sort out all the pathogens in your gut and your ulcers

will deminish. Just like my gut problmes have, I amy or may not have ulcers with

my small bowel, but to be honest it does not really matter now, my bowel is

healing anyway. And I have seem people with far worse gut problems than I had

(And i had a lot of gut problems) and they have healed their gut, fibro and

other problems using low carb, natural food and the good supplemnts Bee

recommends

I do hope this is helpful

see my other emails as to how I get into ketosis. This process never takes more

than 4 days and although i have to rest on those days it pays dividens once i am

back in ketosis

Love Joanne

Subject: Re: [lyme disease tests/Joanne/Robin/ketosis

To: fibromyalgiacured

Date: Sunday, 13 March, 2011, 19:15

Hi,

I am asking how you know you are not in ketosis during low carbs. The test

strips are not always an indicator. Joanne can seem to know by how she feels,

but I cannot see the results of that in my case. Also tiredness is an indicator

when you are going low carb, as it takes a few weeks(or longer) for the body to

start burning the fat. There has been some times especially at the beginning

when I felt I needed more rest, but overall my energy level is much better. Some

people feel worse in ketosis for a while as you are doing more detoxing. I think

I have been in ketosis most all the time for the past 2 years. I get less than

50 grams carbs. There has been a few times the muscle pain got worse for a short

time, but over all my pain lever was reduced. Bee does say if the healing

reactions get too severe we can increase the carbs a bit, but I try to not

increase them even with the buckwheat as mentioned by her, as I think staying in

ketosis is the best in the

long run. You may not have been getting enough fat, especially coconut oil-65 to

80 % calories should be fat.

The sea salt does not bother me, but I get very little salt from other sources.

If I ear out, I say no seasoning.

C.

>

> HI JOANNE

>

> THAT IS HELPFUL. I AM DEFINITELY WORKING ON THIS SALT THING. I AM DOING

> MORE HIGH FAT, NOT AIMING FOR KETOSIS THOUGH. I DID KETOSIS ONCE FOR OVER

> 5 YEARS. I FIND IT TOO HARD TO STAY IN IT NOW. THERE IS A TEA I LIKE THAT

> DOES HAS A FEW CARBS, A PROTEIN SHAKE, A MILLET CRACKER, AND A FEW OTHER

> THINGS. IF I EAT OVER 20 GRAMS OF CARBS I CAN¡¯T SEEM TO STAY IN KETOSIS.

> WHEN I EAT THAT LOW IN CARBS I FEEL EXHAUSTED. SO I TRY TO EAT BETWEEN

> 40-60 WHEN I¡¯M WATCHING IT. BUT I CAN¡¯T BE IN KETOSIS BETWEEN 40-60 GRAMS.

> SO................... I¡¯VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR YEARS AND YEARS. I AM

> HEALTHIER AS A RESULT OF TRYING EVERYTHING AND EATING LOW CARB AND AVOIDING

> SUGARS BUT KETOSIS SEEMS TO BE JUST OUT OF REACH FOR ME NOW. ALSO, WHEN I

> EAT THAT LOW OF CARBS THE MUSCLE SPASMS GET WAY WORSE. CAN¡¯T SLEEP I GET SO

> MANY OF THEM SO HIGHER CARBS 40-60 AND THE LEG CRAMPS ARE CONTROLLABLE.

>

> I RARELY EAT DAIRY NOW BECAUSE I KNOW I¡¯M LACTOSE INTOLERANT. I EAT ALMOND

> MILK.

>

> SO, THE BATTLE GOES ON. I HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR WEEKS TO LOSE SOME WEIGHT

> AND THE SCALE JUST GOES UP AND DOWN THE SAME 3 POUNDS. IF I EAT VERY LOW

> CARB, 20 GRAMS I LOSE 2 LBS, THEN I EAT SOMETHING SLIGHTLY SALTY AND I GAIN

> IT BACK. FRUSTRATING. I WOULD LIKE TO LOSE ABOUT 8 POUNDS. MY CLOTHES FIT

> A LITTLE TIGHT AND I DON¡¯T LIKE THAT FEELING. I GAINED 8 POUNDS IN THE LAST

> TWO MONTHS WHICH IS WHY I WANT TO GET IT OFF TOO. I ATE LOW CARB LAST MONTH

> FOR 5 DAYS AND LOST 6 POUNDS. THEN I ATE A SALTY PIECE OF FISH WITH SAUCE

> AND GAINED 3.5 THAT NIGHT. VERY FRUSTRATING. SO I AM ASSUMING THIS WATER

> WEIGHT.

>

> ANYHOW, I FIGURE DON¡¯T GIVE UP. AS LONG AS I TRY AND DON¡¯T GIVE IN I CAN

> RETAIN THIS AMOUNT OF HEALTH AND WEIGHT LOSS.

> I DON¡¯T KNOW IF I TOLD YOU JOANNE BUT I AM DOING NEUROFEEDBACK WITH A DOCTOR

> HERE PLUS I GET EMDR FROM A DOC IN HIS OFFICE AS WELL. TWICE A WEEK I DO

> THIS SINCE JANUARY OF THIS YEAR. I AM FEELING BETTER AS A RESULT AND THEY

> TELL ME IT WILL ADJUST MY NERVOUS SYSTEM AND THEY GET A 95 PERCENT ¡°CURE¡±

> RATE OF FIBRO, AND THE EMDR WILL HANDLE THE PTSD. I AM SEEING RESULTS WITH

> THE PTSD FOR SURE!!!!!!!!! I NO LONGER HAVE PANIC ATTACKS OR NIGHTMARES OF

> THE SAME OLD STUFF FROM MY PAST. I AM MORE ACTIVE IN MY ART, I AM LESS

> RECLUSIVE NOW TOO.

>

> SO, I AM HOPING THIS WILL GIVE ME A REAL CHANGE BECAUSE WHEN I READ THIS

> LIST THERE IS HARDLY ANYTHING I HAVE NOT TRIED IN THE PAST TWENTY YEARS. I

> HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A BELIEVER IN NATURAL CURES SO I¡¯VE DONE THE DIETS, THE

> KETOSIS, THE EXERCISE, YOGA, SWIMMING POOLS, SUPPLMENTS, SLEEP AIDES LIKE A

> SLEEP MASK, USING ICE, USING HEAT AND MEDITATION. I HAVE NEVER TRIED DRUGS

> BECAUSE I NEVER BELIEVED IN THEM.

>

> SO, THIS NEUROFEEDBACK FELT LIKE AN ANSWER FOR ME BECAUSE I WAS LOSING HOPE

> HAVING TRIED EVERYTHING FOR SO LONG. WHEN THEY SHOWED ME MY BRAIN SCAN IT

> SHOWED DEEP DEPRESSION AND HYPERVIGILANCE. AFTER THE FIRST 20 TREATMENTS

> THERE WAS CHANGE IN MY EEG THAT SHOWED A LIFT IN THE DEPRESSION AND A

> LESSENING OF HYPERVIGILANCE.

>

> SO I WILL KEEP YOU POSTED ON THIS.

>

> THANKS FOR YOUR HELP AND EXTENSIVE RESEARCH JOANNE. I SO APPRECIATE YOUR

> HARD WORK. I READ YOUR STUFF ALL THE TIME I JUST DON¡¯T ALWAYS ANSWER.

>

> ROSEMARIE

March 14, 2011

ok Joanne.

thanks

Joy

________________________________

To: fibromyalgiacured

Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 12:58:30 PM

Subject: Re:

Rosemarie is right about detox programmes that use vegetables, fibre and so on.

I steer clear of anything like that

The main things I use a coconut oil, lemon juice sea salt and water. but these

are all part of Bees programme and everything, more or less I do in regards to

detox is under her guidance.

There are people on her board that have colitis and crohns and other issues like

this, really they would be able to advise you better than I can

My bowel problems have basically cleared up using her programme but mine could

simply be IBS. When I was at the hospital last my consultant told me he supected

crohns because of the joint problems I am having and because the ileocal valve

problem I have can occur with Crohns. But as ever, with the NHS, he is now

abroad and nobody knows when he will be back. I have a new consultant that I see

in two weeks but whether or not he will refer me for tests for this or not I do

not know.

I can tell you another placve where you would be able to speak to more folk with

Colitis/Crohns etc, in addition to Bees board. there are lots of people with

these conditions at www.kickas.org

I went there about my arthritic problems (quit a few people in my familiy have

Reactive Arthritis and they discuss that in detail there) but what I found out

there, that I did not knowis that many people with Arthritis have Crohns/Colitis

etc

this was all new to me at the time. Many of the folk their with these conditions

along with the Arthritis and some with Fibromyalgia were using carol Sinclairs

low starch diet and some were using the Selective Carbohydrate Diet and some

were using Bees diet. I looked at all these options and settled with Bees diet,

but the other two diets I have mentioned do also help people with Crohns/

Colitis etc and the people on that site would be more than happy to send time

explaining to you the pros and cons of each

But listen I am no expert but really I do think juice detoxes, vegetable

detoxes, indeed any that include large amounts of fibre, etc are not great, I

really do prefer the coconut oil etc. bee can advise you a lot more than I can

regarding all this

Love Joanne

>

> From: cindy_martian <cindy_martian@...

> <mailto:cindy_martian%40yahoo.com> >

> Subject: Re: [lyme disease tests/Joanne/Robin/ketosis

> To: fibromyalgiacured

> <mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com>

> Date: Sunday, 13 March, 2011, 19:15

>

> Hi,

> I am asking how you know you are not in ketosis during low carbs. The test

> strips are not always an indicator. Joanne can seem to know by how she feels,

> but I cannot see the results of that in my case. Also tiredness is an

> indicator

> when you are going low carb, as it takes a few weeks(or longer) for the body

> to

> start burning the fat. There has been some times especially at the beginning

> when I felt I needed more rest, but overall my energy level is much better.

> Some

> people feel worse in ketosis for a while as you are doing more detoxing. I

> think

> I have been in ketosis most all the time for the past 2 years. I get less than

> 50 grams carbs. There has been a few times the muscle pain got worse for a

> short

> time, but over all my pain lever was reduced. Bee does say if the healing

> reactions get too severe we can increase the carbs a bit, but I try to not

> increase them even with the buckwheat as mentioned by her, as I think staying

> in

> ketosis is the best in the

> long run. You may not have been getting enough fat, especially coconut oil-65

> to

> 80 % calories should be fat.

>

> The sea salt does not bother me, but I get very little salt from other

> sources.

> If I ear out, I say no seasoning.

>

> C.

>

>> >

>> > HI JOANNE

>> >

>> > THAT IS HELPFUL. I AM DEFINITELY WORKING ON THIS SALT THING. I AM DOING

>> > MORE HIGH FAT, NOT AIMING FOR KETOSIS THOUGH. I DID KETOSIS ONCE FOR OVER

>> > 5 YEARS. I FIND IT TOO HARD TO STAY IN IT NOW. THERE IS A TEA I LIKE THAT

>> > DOES HAS A FEW CARBS, A PROTEIN SHAKE, A MILLET CRACKER, AND A FEW OTHER

>> > THINGS. IF I EAT OVER 20 GRAMS OF CARBS I CANÂ¡Â¯T SEEM TO STAY IN KETOSIS.

>> > WHEN I EAT THAT LOW IN CARBS I FEEL EXHAUSTED. SO I TRY TO EAT BETWEEN

>> > 40-60 WHEN IÂ¡Â¯M WATCHING IT. BUT I CANÂ¡Â¯T BE IN KETOSIS BETWEEN 40-60

>> GRAMS.

>> > SO................... IÂ¡Â¯VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR YEARS AND YEARS. I

AM

>> > HEALTHIER AS A RESULT OF TRYING EVERYTHING AND EATING LOW CARB AND AVOIDING

>> > SUGARS BUT KETOSIS SEEMS TO BE JUST OUT OF REACH FOR ME NOW. ALSO, WHEN I

>> > EAT THAT LOW OF CARBS THE MUSCLE SPASMS GET WAY WORSE. CANÂ¡Â¯T SLEEP I GET

>> SO

>> > MANY OF THEM SO HIGHER CARBS 40-60 AND THE LEG CRAMPS ARE CONTROLLABLE.

>> >

>> > I RARELY EAT DAIRY NOW BECAUSE I KNOW IÂ¡Â¯M LACTOSE INTOLERANT. I EAT

ALMOND

>> > MILK.

>> >

>> > SO, THE BATTLE GOES ON. I HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR WEEKS TO LOSE SOME WEIGHT

>> > AND THE SCALE JUST GOES UP AND DOWN THE SAME 3 POUNDS. IF I EAT VERY LOW

>> > CARB, 20 GRAMS I LOSE 2 LBS, THEN I EAT SOMETHING SLIGHTLY SALTY AND I GAIN

>> > IT BACK. FRUSTRATING. I WOULD LIKE TO LOSE ABOUT 8 POUNDS. MY CLOTHES FIT

>> > A LITTLE TIGHT AND I DONÂ¡Â¯T LIKE THAT FEELING. I GAINED 8 POUNDS IN THE

>> LAST

>> > TWO MONTHS WHICH IS WHY I WANT TO GET IT OFF TOO. I ATE LOW CARB LAST MONTH

>> > FOR 5 DAYS AND LOST 6 POUNDS. THEN I ATE A SALTY PIECE OF FISH WITH SAUCE

>> > AND GAINED 3.5 THAT NIGHT. VERY FRUSTRATING. SO I AM ASSUMING THIS WATER

>> > WEIGHT.

>> >

>> > ANYHOW, I FIGURE DONÂ¡Â¯T GIVE UP. AS LONG AS I TRY AND DONÂ¡Â¯T GIVE IN I

CAN

>> > RETAIN THIS AMOUNT OF HEALTH AND WEIGHT LOSS.

>> > I DONÂ¡Â¯T KNOW IF I TOLD YOU JOANNE BUT I AM DOING NEUROFEEDBACK WITH A

>> DOCTOR

>> > HERE PLUS I GET EMDR FROM A DOC IN HIS OFFICE AS WELL. TWICE A WEEK I DO

>> > THIS SINCE JANUARY OF THIS YEAR. I AM FEELING BETTER AS A RESULT AND THEY

>> > TELL ME IT WILL ADJUST MY NERVOUS SYSTEM AND THEY GET A 95 PERCENT

Â¡Â°CUREÂ¡Â±

>> > RATE OF FIBRO, AND THE EMDR WILL HANDLE THE PTSD. I AM SEEING RESULTS WITH

>> > THE PTSD FOR SURE!!!!!!!!! I NO LONGER HAVE PANIC ATTACKS OR NIGHTMARES OF

>> > THE SAME OLD STUFF FROM MY PAST. I AM MORE ACTIVE IN MY ART, I AM LESS

>> > RECLUSIVE NOW TOO.

>> >

>> > SO, I AM HOPING THIS WILL GIVE ME A REAL CHANGE BECAUSE WHEN I READ THIS

>> > LIST THERE IS HARDLY ANYTHING I HAVE NOT TRIED IN THE PAST TWENTY YEARS. I

>> > HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A BELIEVER IN NATURAL CURES SO IÂ¡Â¯VE DONE THE DIETS, THE

>> > KETOSIS, THE EXERCISE, YOGA, SWIMMING POOLS, SUPPLMENTS, SLEEP AIDES LIKE A

>> > SLEEP MASK, USING ICE, USING HEAT AND MEDITATION. I HAVE NEVER TRIED DRUGS

>> > BECAUSE I NEVER BELIEVED IN THEM.

>> >

>> > SO, THIS NEUROFEEDBACK FELT LIKE AN ANSWER FOR ME BECAUSE I WAS LOSING HOPE

>> > HAVING TRIED EVERYTHING FOR SO LONG. WHEN THEY SHOWED ME MY BRAIN SCAN IT

>> > SHOWED DEEP DEPRESSION AND HYPERVIGILANCE. AFTER THE FIRST 20 TREATMENTS

>> > THERE WAS CHANGE IN MY EEG THAT SHOWED A LIFT IN THE DEPRESSION AND A

>> > LESSENING OF HYPERVIGILANCE.

>> >

>> > SO I WILL KEEP YOU POSTED ON THIS.

>> >

>> > THANKS FOR YOUR HELP AND EXTENSIVE RESEARCH JOANNE. I SO APPRECIATE YOUR

>> > HARD WORK. I READ YOUR STUFF ALL THE TIME I JUST DONÂ¡Â¯T ALWAYS ANSWER.

>> >

>> > ROSEMARIE

>

March 15, 2011

thanks Joanne. I will think about it.

Joy

________________________________

To: fibromyalgiacured

Sent: Tue, March 15, 2011 4:37:14 PM

Subject: Re:

My computer is not working to good. I will post agian if i can get it working

If the detox thing is worrying you leave it for a while. Instead why dont you

take a look at the Atkins diet. Most of us here started our low carbing using

the Atkins diet and if you have not done much low caerbing before then the

Atkins diet is probably going to be a bit easier to do

You would need the book but usually it is only $1 on Ebay or Amazon

You wi detox on that diet but it will only be mild. as you get used to eating

the low carb way and you experience the gentle detox that the Atkins diet will

give you, then you can come here and ask us all how we each usung baby steps

converted to Bees diet

For more on the Atkins diet and specifically how it can help fibro and colitis

you might want to join the forum on the Atkins site. there are doctors on that

site that will be able to tell you how to use the diet so it is helping you wiht

your illneses

www.atkins.com

Love joanne

March 16, 2011

Yes this is all great information Joanne. It seems like most of our food

intolerances are carbs like you said. I read that is true because many of

us don¹t have the DNA to deal with grains. There are grains in bread,

pasta, and rice etc. Some of us, many of us, are throwbacks in our DNA to

meat eaters who hunted meat and ate only vegetables/roots from the ground

and berries. Grains were not introduced to many northern countries and so

some of us my don¹t have the ability to tolerate it. For example, my

heritage is Norwegian. Very northern country with that DNA. They don¹t

have a long growing season so they existed mainly on meat with only short

summers for berries and vegetables etc. of couse this is a huge

generalization but if you want to read about that you can look up Eat Right

For Your Blood Type. A book that¹s out there.

When we have food intolerances, then we eat that food, we can swell up,

retain water in the tissues, and that is painful to us. Water retention

looks like fat on our bodies. We can have 20-40 pounds of water on our

midsection from bloated tissues that pushes the fat out from our bodies. If

we removed the food we can¹t tolerate we can lose inches and pounds so fast

it will make you feel in awe. I lost 30 pounds once in about 25 days. And

I felt amazing. I was juicing vegetables only. Celery, parsley, tomatoes,

watercress, any vegetable I felt like using that tasted good. Think V8

juice, or green juice.

The problem was I could not live only on juiced veggies forever. I did it

for about a year and I felt fantastic but of course I couldn¹t maintain it

forever. I thought I had to do that, living ONLY on juiced vegetables. Not

true. I did not know about food intolerances. But this nutritionist I am

reading talks about the veggies, food intolerances and eating low carb.

Lazarides. WWW.health-diets.net is her website. This made so much

sense to me. Now I know I can juice veggies like before but also eat others

foods and I can stay low carb as well. She shows you how.

I¹ve always struggled with ten pounds that won¹t budge, gaining 3-4 pound

sometimes in one meal, and the next suffering tons of pain. I can barely

bend my fingers sometimes and I can never get my rings off without soap or

cream on my hands because my hands swell so badly. My ankles are always

swollen.

So to try and deal with that I am right now juicing celery and parsley with

tomatoes, cilantro, greens. Watch out for tomatoes though. They may be a

food intolerances for many people because they are acidic. I already can

get my rings off. My ankles are still swollen but its only been two days.

My lower back has less pain when I bend over too.

So I am very very hopeful again. I can go back into my history and see why

sometimes I felt so amazing, and sometimes why the pain increased so badly.

Ketosis definitely made me feel better. Well guess what? I did not have

any food intolerances in that food plan then. But I find it very hard to

stay in ketosis now. I did it for 5 years though with no water weight at

all. I stayed unbloated and felt far less pain. I know for a fact dairy is

a foood intolerance for me. As is wheat. Wheat for me is a huge problem.

My sister also suffers with wheat intolerance will get migraines if she eat

wheat/bread/pasta. So I avoid crackers, bread, pasta, rice, and any

dressings that have wheat in them. This helped me a lot!!!!!!!!

So, great information Joanne. I just wanted to add my two cents. Thanks

rosemarie

>

> It is like this. fibro folk, and even folk with Colitis and other stuff like

> Reactive Arthritis (which I think i have) and many other autoimmune illnesses

> all have intolerances to foods

>

> It can be very hard to work out which foods are affecting us, and often what

> the medical folk are telling us is precisely the wrong thing to be telling us

>

> Anyway, one thing that is pretty clear is most carb foods are not good for us,

> but sadly most carb foods are addictive. We feel we need them to get us

> through the day. this is why so many folk with autoimmune binge on bread,

> bsicuits cakes etc

>

> When we try to cut back we feel tired and poorly, and most of us cannot afford

> to feel tired and poorly we have things we have to do

>

> Although i think the Atkins diet is still a bit liberal for us fibro folk (we

> do need a strict diet) for anybody that is not used to eating without a lot of

> carbs the Atkins diet is relatively easy

>

> You can buy the food atkins recommends almost anywhere

>

> for instance Atkins would not want us to eat the bread on a burger at

> Mcdonalds, but he would let us have twice as many beef burgers and he would

> allow us the salad too

>

> Atkins would not want us to eat the spagetti with a bolognaise but he would

> let us eat doubr the bolgnaise or we could if we wanted order low carb pasta

> from his site

>

> atkins would not want us to eat Corn flakes but he has a cereal we can use

> instead

>

> And this is basically it. atkins is kind of a low carb diet that mirrors the

> low/fat high carb diet we have all been eating for years so people do not feel

> deprived when they do it

>

> But how the Atkins diet is better than a lowfat/high carb diet is it contains

> only small amounts of sugar, starch, fructose and lactose. these carbohydrates

> are the main carbohydrates that affect us, so where as Atkins does not

> eliminate these he does help us cut back. When we cut back we feel so much

> better and from there it becomes easier to eliminate these carbs if we need

> to.

>

> Regarding the issue of detoxing. We that are low carbing do not usually go on

> a specific detox regime. Instead we focus on keeping our carbs down and

> ensuring the foods we do eat are as natural as possible ( meaning we avoid

> processed foods were we can) and we use certain supplements. coconut oil is by

> far the best supplement we use but to other natural supplements that we use

> that are very helpful are cod liver oil and sea salt

>

> When I get time I will tell you more about these supplements but briefly the

> coconut oil is very soothing particularly to the gut, it supports the immune

> system and it helps the body lower its need for candida and other pathogens.

> It also provides us with energy.

>

> the codliver oil helps the immune system care for the gut heat and brain, plus

> all the other organs, bones etc, and it contains vitamin D. for some reason we

> are all terribly short of vitamin D and cod liver oil is by fat the best

> food/supplement to get vitamin d from

>

> table salt is terribly bad for us, terribly bad for us. But ironically sea

> salt is brilliantly good for us. All the minerals the body needs are in sea

> salt.

>

> If you use these three supplements and you have a go at low carbibg I am sure

> that in a very short period of time you will begin to feel a but better. when

> you feel more well it will get easier and easier for you to do the things we

> all do. and you will be able to do it without too much worry. because you will

> be in control and you will be able to see when things are going well and not

> so well and you will be able to more easily judge what is best to do

>

> All my love Joanne

>

> From: Schultz <youthfulfirecracker@...

> <mailto:youthfulfirecracker%40yahoo.com> >

> Subject: Re:

> To: fibromyalgiacured

> <mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com>

> Date: Tuesday, 15 March, 2011, 22:23

>

> thanks Joanne. I will think about it.

>

> Joy

>

> ________________________________

> From: Joanne Ford <joannesford@... <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>

> >

> To: fibromyalgiacured

> <mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Tue, March 15, 2011 4:37:14 PM

> Subject: Re:

>

> My computer is not working to good. I will post agian if i can get it working

>

> If the detox thing is worrying you leave it for a while. Instead why dont you

> take a look at the Atkins diet. Most of us here started our low carbing using

> the Atkins diet and if you have not done much low caerbing before then the

> Atkins diet is probably going to be a bit easier to do

>

> You would need the book but usually it is only $1 on Ebay or Amazon

>

> You wi detox on that diet but it will only be mild. as you get used to eating

> the low carb way and you experience the gentle detox that the Atkins diet will

> give you, then you can come here and ask us all how we each usung baby steps

> converted to Bees diet

>

> For more on the Atkins diet and specifically how it can help fibro and colitis

> you might want to join the forum on the Atkins site. there are doctors on that

> site that will be able to tell you how to use the diet so it is helping you

> wiht

> your illneses

>

> www.atkins.com

>

> Love joanne

>

March 28, 2011

Hi joanne:

I am so sorry to hear how you are feeling. I grew up in Canada with your

exact same medical system and yes they do write everything down. And yes it

is permanent. My sister had an incident with a doctor who prescribed a drug

to her that she was allergic to and he had it in his file but he forgot.

That¹s what he said to her. He forgot. She almost died. I said why don¹t

you sue him. She said oh no, once you do that no other doctor will take

you. How¹s that for helpless.

I once read that many fibro people feel helpless. They grew up feeling

helpless, with abusive situations. That¹s what exacerbates the illness now

in the present. I think you feel helpless with your husband and your

father. At times. Not always. When you don¹t feel helpless you are up,

and busy and feeling great. So, I think maybe, when you feel helpless, try

and remember who your real father is. Turn to God when you are feeling

helpless. We are never helpless in reality. We are just helpless against

this man made world and worldly problems. But when we get there, in the

end, who will feel the results the of their life and be happy about it?

Also, if I was you, I would lower my expectations from the medical

community. It sounds like it has become a total bureaucracy of parasites

who live off the system for their menial jobs and its the only power they

have in their life. They too feel helpless when they meet fibro people like

us. They don¹t know what to do with us and when they feel helpless they get

angry, they say hurtful things and sometimes they think they are helping

you. I have a mother like that. She will say really hurtful things and

tell me its for my own good. I have to toughen up she says, I have to learn

to roll with the punches she says. Well I never did learn to do that but I

did learn to turn to God for my comfort. Then I don¹t feel helpless.

I hope this helps. I know that you know that we are all here for you. We

do understand your frustrations and your helplessness and your anger and

your grief. I can only say I am praying for you, I am sending you love and

God is in your heart with you right now. Keep up your good work Joanne.

You are a great help to many many people on this list. Never give up. God

is watching you succeed in your endeavors to love your family and us.

That¹s all we need to know, and that¹s the only one that matters in our

heart of hearts.

With many blessings sent your way

Sincerely,

rosemarie

>

> Oh I am so glad to hear from you tonight.

>

> I have been at the hospital the last two days with my husband, he is still

> there, and I am so tired. My dad is not doing great right now either and I

> will have to go down there soon

>

> Normally I cope quit well when things like this happen but with all the stuff

> at the hospital this week, and so many other things I really am not coping at

> all

>

> I spoke to a friend earlier today. I went on and on and on, especially about

> the hospital and how they treat me so dreadfully, and how I let them. Honestly

> I do not know how to stand up to them, I am so afraid of them, it is

> just dreadful that they can do this to women

>

> Anyway, my friend said I need to send in a letter and complain but I am not so

> sure this is a good idea. It would be if I felt stronger but right now I feel

> terrible

>

> You see here in England, every single thing you have done medically is written

> down on your records and there is absolutely no way of getting any of it

> removed. Almost every time I go down there somebody refers to my husband being

> ill and blames his illness on the fact that I am ill. At one time a hospital

> worker blatently told me to leave him and implied that me staying with him was

> an indication that I enjoy being ill, and I have had a lot of other stuff like

> this said to me

>

> Because of this kind of thing when I am ill I will not seek help and there

> have been times when I have spent months in agony simply to afraid to tell my

> doctor incase they say something like this again or worse write it down

>

> When ever I go there I am constantly mithering about what they are writing

> down I just stutter and stammer, never actually saying what I want to say, and

> never getting much of what I want and need either

>

> I keep telling myself that all that stuff was in the past and that I am now

> capable of dealing with this. I am better than I was but I still do it and

> when I get home I am ill for hours, sometimes days

>

> there has been articles in the newspaper here saying women with fibromyalgia

> are 10 times more likely than any other group to commit suicide and that we

> all need to be interviewed to see if we have psychiatric illness. I thought

> that over time all this would go away and they would start caring for us

> properly, but it has not and things are getting worse

>

> I am beginning to wonder if this diagnosis of fibromyalgia is even worth

> having. I get no help from them, all they do is offer me poisonous drugs. That

> is what they did this week. I asked to have my accupuncture and dieticain

> reinstated but they said there was no way. They are sending me to a

> gastroenterologist. I am thinking he might change my diagnosis to starch

> allergy, or something else, but I do not know if they will do this. They may

> do sonce I am not on medication now, but I some what doubt it. I feel that in

> many ways they get a kick out of bullying women like this, and I know I should

> not say that, but I do feel this is so

>

> I read an article the other day that said more and more women are reporting

> that after being diagnosed with fibro their illness became significanty worse

> and they are blaming their doctors. This is what my friend wants me to do but

> I really do not have the energy for any of this

>

> Anyway, I do not have to worry about it too much right now. I need to get my

> mind on how I am going to cope with all this with my husband and dad. Things

> like this always seem to happen when I am on a low ebb. This is another reason

> why I often give up trying to deal with doctors for myself, I am always too

> busy dealing with them for everybody else

>

> As I am typing here I am realising that it is very unlikely that they will

> reinstate my accupuncture, or my dietician. I dont even know if they will

> change my diagnosis to starch allergy, but I need something doing, being

> classified in this way with the fibro is getting me no where, and never has

> done. Further more because they all think it is in my head, they some how

> think they have a right to interfere in my life. This is another reason why I

> want rid of this title. It is a waste of time having this diagnosis. It stops

> me getting help and only gives me burden after burden after burden

>

> Anyway, I will shut up now. I know my share tonight has been Me Me Me, but if

> I do not start getting all this off my chest I am going to end up having a

> breakdown. honestly I am not kidding I feel like I have been dragged through

> an edge backwards tonight

>

> I am wacked, totally wacked, but I am also so alert I may not sleep well

> tonight

>

> Anyway, I am going to have to leave that there, but do keep in touch. Just

> knowing I have my friends here is what is getting me through right now. I do

> have friends in my everyday life too but sometimes I just dont want to share

> too much with them because they start pestering me then and I cant cope with

> that either

>

> Honestly if I could cry I would. Maybe in a while I will find a way to cry. I

> need to. I need to get all this negative energy out of me

>

> Oh, honestly you have no idea how much I needed to hear from one of you

> tonight

>

> All my love

>

> Joanne

>

> From: <jemma63@... <mailto:jemma63%40westnet.com.au>

> >

> Subject: Our own special diets

> To: " Joanne Ford " <joannesford@... <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>

> >

> Date: Tuesday, 29 March, 2011, 2:33

>

> Hi Joanne

>

> Hi

>

> I am keeping the dose on the kelp low for now because I know high doses over

> time can damage the thyroid, but a small amount over the recommended daily

> amount will not do too much harm in a short time. I am thinking a small amount

> now and if I do have to take a higher dose then at least I am part there, but

> to be honest I do not really think kelp is the best remedy

>

> At Bees site we have been taught a lot of ways to detox the body. Ketosis, the

> state I am in all the time because of my low carb/high fat diet is extremely

> detoxing. I know that a lot of people struggle with this but if in your life

> you ever do need a cheap way to get a good detox, a short time in ketosis

> could I think make some difference

>

> The other thing that Bee has taught us is that 500mg of vitamin C every hour

> in an emergancy or during illness is also beneficial. I am doing this already,

> mainly to help me with my fibro, but it would for certian help my immmune

> system cope with radiation

>

> Another thing that Bee has shown us is using niacin, to help the body detox.

> It is a very parcular sensation I get from this, I even turn red, but this too

> I think is perhaps safer than the high doses of iodine they recommened

> Oh Niacin!! I remember taking that. I don't know where it is at the moment

> but I remember feeling as if my head was cooking!!!

> But it does help when it 'cools' down. Also I am on a lowcarb, high fat

> diet. I eat more butter than bread. I make my own cream cheese spread and

> have to use cruskits to spread it on or gluten free bread. I love the cream

> cheese spread.. Just blend it up with juice of one lemon (or half) and a

> little salt, and a flat teaspoon of curry powder.

> ______________________

> The one last thing is drinking water. I know this sounds obvious, and we all

> say we do it, will do it etc, but frankly it is easily dismissed and forgotten

> ______________________

> I do drink water but normally I'd prefer the distilled water as our water here

> has chlorine in it. And some of the water here has fluoride in it. We should

> have been able to say NO to that!! Where I live in the country area there's

> no fluoride, only in the city. It's so evil adding that to our water.

> I take the richest vitamin C that I can. And also CoQ10 version the best

> being from Dr Al Sears in USA. The usual one from the local pharmacy is

> useless compared to Dr Sears.

> From our local pharmacy I get the high dosage of Magnesium. I couldn't ever

> do without that. Stops my muscles from hurting for instance. The one I used

> to buy online is rubbish compared to the pharmacy.

> ---------------------------------

> It is my himble opinion that if I do all the above I am doing a lot to help

> myself

>

> The other thing that I know helps is walking about. Walking helps the body

> detox and it is best to do it with no shoes on because we detox through our

> feet

> ---------------------------------

> I can't walk with no shoes on here. Our lawn is filled with all sorts of

> prickles. This morning I had to pick prickles off my dress as they'd stuck to

> me. I must dig that prickle bush up and burn it.

> But I do eat those prickly little weeds that are good for us but I just pick

> the leaves off and gently cook them. Called " stinging nettles "

> ---------------------------------

> Anyway this is my protocol. There is a fair bit to remember, but nothing

> difficult or expensive.

>

> So glad to see you are still here . I have been meaning to send you a

> message but honestly, I know it sounds like an excuse, but my email box is

> constantly chocka.

>

> I belong to a few sites that are very similar to this one and have a lot of

> friends LOL

>

March 31, 2011

Hi :

Nice to hear from you. Its always nice to hear that others are doing all

they can to avoid drugs. I have not heard of one person who gets relief or

is helped by drugs. My sister also almost died from them 2 years ago. I

don¹t even take aspirin. I have a sluggish liver and aspirin makes me

worse, more tired and bloated. So I just put up with the pain.

However, I juice raw veggies and that really makes a difference in my life.

I also make veggie soups and eat organic. When I eat otherwise I notice how

bad I feel. My digestion is not good so enzymes also really helps.

Eating a lot of vegetables, cooked or raw, plus enzymes might clear up your

hemmoroids permanently. I used to have them really bad. Also, if I ate

cheese they would come back and really badly too. So, if you eat cheese

quit that for awhile and see if it makes a difference. Also try the veggies

and see if you don¹t get past this problem I would like to know the results

ok?

I hope you have great day down under.

rosemarie

>

> Hi Rosemarie and Joanne,

> Lovely to hear from you both and I wish you all the best.

> I've found the only help I can get for the Fibro problems is 1. Being

> Positive at all times, and 2. Forget the Doctors. I hardly ever see them

> anymore. What for?? The only thing I take these days is Magnesium, Tramadol

> and Aspirins. The crap they fill out in prescriptions is one thing I'd never

> ever take anymore. I would have to get a prescription for Tramadol so I don't

> worry about that now and I feel so much better for just sticking to mainly the

> Aspirins. The Magnesium is wonderful and helps my muscles calm down. I don't

> do acupuncture anymore either but I do my own massage of arms and legs or

> wherever else it needs. I only take about 1 aspirin a day as well. I used to

> take heaps of Panadeine Forte and overdosed on that and almost died.

> Yesterday I was massaging my arms and it really helped. I sleep well these

> days and wake up refreshed.

> A positive attitude sure helps too. I thank God every day for His ever

> present help.

> My only problem is haemmorroids, and that's what I use the aspirins for. I've

> had them for years but the Aspirins help them to recede. I could have an

> operation but I'm afraid of the anasthetic unless the Doctor could just use a

> needle to deaden the pain. When I had my gallbladder out years ago the

> surgeon warned me always to let a surgeon know about my condition re:-

> anasthetics and their danger.

> So Aspirins and some personal massage on my muscles is what keeps me going as

> well as a positive attitude and a bit of laughter.

> I am so blessed to have two beautiful dogs who love and adore me and my son

> who is now in his early 40's who is on a carer's pension for looking after me

> (just helping me in the house and driving me to the supermarket. He's great)

> Well going back to bed now. I got up early and it's a cold day/night. I love

> autumn and winter though. It's easier to keep warm than try and cool down

> here in Australia.

> Love you all,

>

> Our own special diets

>> > To: " Joanne Ford " <joannesford@...

>> <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk> <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>

>>> > >

>> > Date: Tuesday, 29 March, 2011, 2:33

>> >

>> > Hi Joanne

>> >

>> > Hi

>> >

>> > I am keeping the dose on the kelp low for now because I know high doses >>

over

>> > time can damage the thyroid, but a small amount over the recommended daily

>> > amount will not do too much harm in a short time. I am thinking a small

>> amount

>> > now and if I do have to take a higher dose then at least I am part there,

>> but

>> > to be honest I do not really think kelp is the best remedy

>> >

>> > At Bees site we have been taught a lot of ways to detox the body. Ketosis,

>> the

>> > state I am in all the time because of my low carb/high fat diet is

>> extremely

>> > detoxing. I know that a lot of people struggle with this but if in your >>

life

>> > you ever do need a cheap way to get a good detox, a short time in ketosis

>> > could I think make some difference

>> >

>> > The other thing that Bee has taught us is that 500mg of vitamin C every >>

hour

>> > in an emergancy or during illness is also beneficial. I am doing this

>> already,

>> > mainly to help me with my fibro, but it would for certian help my immmune

>> > system cope with radiation

>> >

>> > Another thing that Bee has shown us is using niacin, to help the body

>> detox.

>> > It is a very parcular sensation I get from this, I even turn red, but this

>> too

>> > I think is perhaps safer than the high doses of iodine they recommened

>> > Oh Niacin!! I remember taking that. I don't know where it is at the

>> moment

>> > but I remember feeling as if my head was cooking!!!

>> > But it does help when it 'cools' down. Also I am on a lowcarb, high fat

>> > diet. I eat more butter than bread. I make my own cream cheese spread >>

and

>> > have to use cruskits to spread it on or gluten free bread. I love the

>> cream

>> > cheese spread.. Just blend it up with juice of one lemon (or half) and a

>> > little salt, and a flat teaspoon of curry powder.

>> > ______________________

>> > The one last thing is drinking water. I know this sounds obvious, and we

>> all

>> > say we do it, will do it etc, but frankly it is easily dismissed and

>> forgotten

>> > ______________________

>> > I do drink water but normally I'd prefer the distilled water as our water

>> here

>> > has chlorine in it. And some of the water here has fluoride in it. We

>> should

>> > have been able to say NO to that!! Where I live in the country area

>> there's

>> > no fluoride, only in the city. It's so evil adding that to our water.

>> > I take the richest vitamin C that I can. And also CoQ10 version the best

>> > being from Dr Al Sears in USA. The usual one from the local pharmacy is

>> > useless compared to Dr Sears.

>> > From our local pharmacy I get the high dosage of Magnesium. I couldn't >>

ever

>> > do without that. Stops my muscles from hurting for instance. The one I

>> used

>> > to buy online is rubbish compared to the pharmacy.

>> > ---------------------------------

>> > It is my himble opinion that if I do all the above I am doing a lot to >>

help

>> > myself

>> >

>> > The other thing that I know helps is walking about. Walking helps the body

>> > detox and it is best to do it with no shoes on because we detox through >>

our

>> > feet

>> > ---------------------------------

>> > I can't walk with no shoes on here. Our lawn is filled with all sorts of

>> > prickles. This morning I had to pick prickles off my dress as they'd

>> stuck to

>> > me. I must dig that prickle bush up and burn it.

>> > But I do eat those prickly little weeds that are good for us but I just >>

pick

>> > the leaves off and gently cook them. Called " stinging nettles "

>> > ---------------------------------

>> > Anyway this is my protocol. There is a fair bit to remember, but nothing

>> > difficult or expensive.

>> >

>> > So glad to see you are still here . I have been meaning to send you a

>> > message but honestly, I know it sounds like an excuse, but my email box is

>> > constantly chocka.

>> >

>> > I belong to a few sites that are very similar to this one and have a lot

of

>> > friends LOL

>> >

April 1, 2011

Hi Rosemarie and Joanne,

Lovely to hear from you both and I wish you all the best.

I've found the only help I can get for the Fibro problems is 1. Being Positive

at all times, and 2. Forget the Doctors. I hardly ever see them anymore. What

for?? The only thing I take these days is Magnesium, Tramadol and Aspirins.

The crap they fill out in prescriptions is one thing I'd never ever take

anymore. I would have to get a prescription for Tramadol so I don't worry about

that now and I feel so much better for just sticking to mainly the Aspirins.

The Magnesium is wonderful and helps my muscles calm down. I don't do

acupuncture anymore either but I do my own massage of arms and legs or wherever

else it needs. I only take about 1 aspirin a day as well. I used to take heaps

of Panadeine Forte and overdosed on that and almost died. Yesterday I was

massaging my arms and it really helped. I sleep well these days and wake up

refreshed.

A positive attitude sure helps too. I thank God every day for His ever present

help.

My only problem is haemmorroids, and that's what I use the aspirins for. I've

had them for years but the Aspirins help them to recede. I could have an

operation but I'm afraid of the anasthetic unless the Doctor could just use a

needle to deaden the pain. When I had my gallbladder out years ago the surgeon

warned me always to let a surgeon know about my condition re:- anasthetics and

their danger.

So Aspirins and some personal massage on my muscles is what keeps me going as

well as a positive attitude and a bit of laughter.

I am so blessed to have two beautiful dogs who love and adore me and my son who

is now in his early 40's who is on a carer's pension for looking after me (just

helping me in the house and driving me to the supermarket. He's great)

Well going back to bed now. I got up early and it's a cold day/night. I love

autumn and winter though. It's easier to keep warm than try and cool down here

in Australia.

Love you all,

Our own special diets

> To: " Joanne Ford " <joannesford@...

<mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>

> >

> Date: Tuesday, 29 March, 2011, 2:33

>

> Hi Joanne

>

> Hi

>

> I am keeping the dose on the kelp low for now because I know high doses over

> time can damage the thyroid, but a small amount over the recommended daily

> amount will not do too much harm in a short time. I am thinking a small

amount

> now and if I do have to take a higher dose then at least I am part there,

but

> to be honest I do not really think kelp is the best remedy

>

> At Bees site we have been taught a lot of ways to detox the body. Ketosis,

the

> state I am in all the time because of my low carb/high fat diet is extremely

> detoxing. I know that a lot of people struggle with this but if in your life

> you ever do need a cheap way to get a good detox, a short time in ketosis

> could I think make some difference

>

> The other thing that Bee has taught us is that 500mg of vitamin C every hour

> in an emergancy or during illness is also beneficial. I am doing this

already,

> mainly to help me with my fibro, but it would for certian help my immmune

> system cope with radiation

>

> Another thing that Bee has shown us is using niacin, to help the body detox.

> It is a very parcular sensation I get from this, I even turn red, but this

too

> I think is perhaps safer than the high doses of iodine they recommened

> Oh Niacin!! I remember taking that. I don't know where it is at the moment

> but I remember feeling as if my head was cooking!!!

> But it does help when it 'cools' down. Also I am on a lowcarb, high fat

> diet. I eat more butter than bread. I make my own cream cheese spread and

> have to use cruskits to spread it on or gluten free bread. I love the cream

> cheese spread.. Just blend it up with juice of one lemon (or half) and a

> little salt, and a flat teaspoon of curry powder.

> ______________________

> The one last thing is drinking water. I know this sounds obvious, and we all

> say we do it, will do it etc, but frankly it is easily dismissed and

forgotten

> ______________________

> I do drink water but normally I'd prefer the distilled water as our water

here

> has chlorine in it. And some of the water here has fluoride in it. We

should

> have been able to say NO to that!! Where I live in the country area there's

> no fluoride, only in the city. It's so evil adding that to our water.

> I take the richest vitamin C that I can. And also CoQ10 version the best

> being from Dr Al Sears in USA. The usual one from the local pharmacy is

> useless compared to Dr Sears.

> From our local pharmacy I get the high dosage of Magnesium. I couldn't ever

> do without that. Stops my muscles from hurting for instance. The one I

used

> to buy online is rubbish compared to the pharmacy.

> ---------------------------------

> It is my himble opinion that if I do all the above I am doing a lot to help

> myself

>

> The other thing that I know helps is walking about. Walking helps the body

> detox and it is best to do it with no shoes on because we detox through our

> feet

> ---------------------------------

> I can't walk with no shoes on here. Our lawn is filled with all sorts of

> prickles. This morning I had to pick prickles off my dress as they'd stuck

to

> me. I must dig that prickle bush up and burn it.

> But I do eat those prickly little weeds that are good for us but I just pick

> the leaves off and gently cook them. Called " stinging nettles "

> ---------------------------------

> Anyway this is my protocol. There is a fair bit to remember, but nothing

> difficult or expensive.

>

> So glad to see you are still here . I have been meaning to send you a

> message but honestly, I know it sounds like an excuse, but my email box is

> constantly chocka.

>

> I belong to a few sites that are very similar to this one and have a lot of

> friends LOL

>

April 1, 2011

Excuse me but i am one of those people that are helped by drugs, in fact it was

just put to the test when i was out of medsÂ for 8 days waiting for medicaid to

approve and they have a glitch and it took that long to fill. so i knew my meds

were working when i didn't have them. so please don't make blanket statements

that can hurt or unfairly influence someone else.Â Â Â

Â Tree

________________________________

To: fibromyalgiacured

Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 7:02:18 PM

Subject: Re: Re:

Â

Hi :

Nice to hear from you. Its always nice to hear that others are doing all

they can to avoid drugs. I have not heard of one person who gets relief or

is helped by drugs. My sister also almost died from them 2 years ago. I

donÂ¹t even take aspirin. I have a sluggish liver and aspirin makes me