agree w/ RoseMarie on Detox

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Yes, RoseMarie,

has something here. This was the route I took. It works.

Plus do not think coconut oil is just another little product we

add to the diet. It has many curative advantages. I have seen

a big change in my body system using this humble oil.

But most of all, I place my wellness in Our Lord's Hands.

As RoseMarie says journaling and prayer is healing.

It is what has helped me.

By the way, Rose Marie, how goes everything???

Love,

>> >

>> > From: cindy_martian <cindy_martian@...

>> <mailto:cindy_martian%40yahoo.com>

>> > <mailto:cindy_martian%40yahoo.com> >

>> > Subject: Re: [lyme disease tests/Joanne/Robin/ketosis

>> > To: fibromyalgiacured

>> <mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com>

>> > <mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com>

>> > Date: Sunday, 13 March, 2011, 19:15

>> >

>> > Hi,

>> > I am asking how you know you are not in ketosis during low carbs. The test

>> > strips are not always an indicator. Joanne can seem to know by how she

>> feels,

>> > but I cannot see the results of that in my case. Also tiredness is an

>> > indicator

>> > when you are going low carb, as it takes a few weeks(or longer) for the

>> body

>> > to

>> > start burning the fat. There has been some times especially at the

>> beginning

>> > when I felt I needed more rest, but overall my energy level is much better.

>> > Some

>> > people feel worse in ketosis for a while as you are doing more detoxing. I

>> > think

>> > I have been in ketosis most all the time for the past 2 years. I get less

>> than

>> > 50 grams carbs. There has been a few times the muscle pain got worse for a

>> > short

>> > time, but over all my pain lever was reduced. Bee does say if the healing

>> > reactions get too severe we can increase the carbs a bit, but I try to not

>> > increase them even with the buckwheat as mentioned by her, as I think

>> staying

>> > in

>> > ketosis is the best in the

>> > long run. You may not have been getting enough fat, especially coconut

>> oil-65

>> > to

>> > 80 % calories should be fat.

>> >

>> > The sea salt does not bother me, but I get very little salt from other

>> > sources.

>> > If I ear out, I say no seasoning.

>> >

>> > C.

>> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > HI JOANNE

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > THAT IS HELPFUL. I AM DEFINITELY WORKING ON THIS SALT THING. I AM >>>>

DOING

>>>> >> > MORE HIGH FAT, NOT AIMING FOR KETOSIS THOUGH. I DID KETOSIS ONCE FOR

OVER

>>>> >> > 5 YEARS. I FIND IT TOO HARD TO STAY IN IT NOW. THERE IS A TEA I LIKE

THAT

>>>> >> > DOES HAS A FEW CARBS, A PROTEIN SHAKE, A MILLET CRACKER, AND A FEW

>>>> OTHER

>>>> >> > THINGS. IF I EAT OVER 20 GRAMS OF CARBS I CAN¡￣T SEEM TO STAY IN

>>>> KETOSIS.

>>>> >> > WHEN I EAT THAT LOW IN CARBS I FEEL EXHAUSTED. SO I TRY TO EAT BETWEEN

>>>> >> > 40-60 WHEN I¡￣M WATCHING IT. BUT I CAN¡￣T BE IN KETOSIS BETWEEN

40-60

>>> >> GRAMS.

>>>> >> > SO................... I¡￣VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR YEARS AND

YEARS.

I AM

>>>> >> > HEALTHIER AS A RESULT OF TRYING EVERYTHING AND EATING LOW CARB AND

>>>> AVOIDING

>>>> >> > SUGARS BUT KETOSIS SEEMS TO BE JUST OUT OF REACH FOR ME NOW. ALSO,

>>>> WHEN I

>>>> >> > EAT THAT LOW OF CARBS THE MUSCLE SPASMS GET WAY WORSE. CAN¡￣T SLEEP

I

GET

>>> >> SO

>>>> >> > MANY OF THEM SO HIGHER CARBS 40-60 AND THE LEG CRAMPS ARE

>>>> CONTROLLABLE.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > I RARELY EAT DAIRY NOW BECAUSE I KNOW I¡￣M LACTOSE INTOLERANT. I

EAT

>>>> ALMOND

>>>> >> > MILK.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > SO, THE BATTLE GOES ON. I HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR WEEKS TO LOSE SOME >>>>

WEIGHT

>>>> >> > AND THE SCALE JUST GOES UP AND DOWN THE SAME 3 POUNDS. IF I EAT VERY

LOW

>>>> >> > CARB, 20 GRAMS I LOSE 2 LBS, THEN I EAT SOMETHING SLIGHTLY SALTY AND I

GAIN

>>>> >> > IT BACK. FRUSTRATING. I WOULD LIKE TO LOSE ABOUT 8 POUNDS. MY CLOTHES

FIT

>>>> >> > A LITTLE TIGHT AND I DON¡￣T LIKE THAT FEELING. I GAINED 8 POUNDS IN

THE

>>> >> LAST

>>>> >> > TWO MONTHS WHICH IS WHY I WANT TO GET IT OFF TOO. I ATE LOW CARB LAST

>>>> MONTH

>>>> >> > FOR 5 DAYS AND LOST 6 POUNDS. THEN I ATE A SALTY PIECE OF FISH WITH

>>>> SAUCE

>>>> >> > AND GAINED 3.5 THAT NIGHT. VERY FRUSTRATING. SO I AM ASSUMING THIS

>>>> WATER

>>>> >> > WEIGHT.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > ANYHOW, I FIGURE DON¡￣T GIVE UP. AS LONG AS I TRY AND DON¡￣T

GIVE IN I

CAN

>>>> >> > RETAIN THIS AMOUNT OF HEALTH AND WEIGHT LOSS.

>>>> >> > I DON¡￣T KNOW IF I TOLD YOU JOANNE BUT I AM DOING NEUROFEEDBACK

WITH A

>>> >> DOCTOR

>>>> >> > HERE PLUS I GET EMDR FROM A DOC IN HIS OFFICE AS WELL. TWICE A WEEK I

DO

>>>> >> > THIS SINCE JANUARY OF THIS YEAR. I AM FEELING BETTER AS A RESULT AND

THEY

>>>> >> > TELL ME IT WILL ADJUST MY NERVOUS SYSTEM AND THEY GET A 95 PERCENT

>>>> ¡°CURE¡±

>>>> >> > RATE OF FIBRO, AND THE EMDR WILL HANDLE THE PTSD. I AM SEEING RESULTS

WITH

>>>> >> > THE PTSD FOR SURE!!!!!!!!! I NO LONGER HAVE PANIC ATTACKS OR

>>>> NIGHTMARES OF

>>>> >> > THE SAME OLD STUFF FROM MY PAST. I AM MORE ACTIVE IN MY ART, I AM LESS

>>>> >> > RECLUSIVE NOW TOO.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > SO, I AM HOPING THIS WILL GIVE ME A REAL CHANGE BECAUSE WHEN I READ

THIS

>>>> >> > LIST THERE IS HARDLY ANYTHING I HAVE NOT TRIED IN THE PAST TWENTY

>>>> YEARS. I

>>>> >> > HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A BELIEVER IN NATURAL CURES SO I¡￣VE DONE THE

DIETS,

THE

>>>> >> > KETOSIS, THE EXERCISE, YOGA, SWIMMING POOLS, SUPPLMENTS, SLEEP AIDES

>>>> LIKE A

>>>> >> > SLEEP MASK, USING ICE, USING HEAT AND MEDITATION. I HAVE NEVER TRIED

>>>> DRUGS

>>>> >> > BECAUSE I NEVER BELIEVED IN THEM.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > SO, THIS NEUROFEEDBACK FELT LIKE AN ANSWER FOR ME BECAUSE I WAS LOSING

HOPE

>>>> >> > HAVING TRIED EVERYTHING FOR SO LONG. WHEN THEY SHOWED ME MY BRAIN SCAN

IT

>>>> >> > SHOWED DEEP DEPRESSION AND HYPERVIGILANCE. AFTER THE FIRST 20

>>>> TREATMENTS

>>>> >> > THERE WAS CHANGE IN MY EEG THAT SHOWED A LIFT IN THE DEPRESSION AND A

>>>> >> > LESSENING OF HYPERVIGILANCE.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > SO I WILL KEEP YOU POSTED ON THIS.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > THANKS FOR YOUR HELP AND EXTENSIVE RESEARCH JOANNE. I SO APPRECIATE

YOUR

>>>> >> > HARD WORK. I READ YOUR STUFF ALL THE TIME I JUST DON¡￣T ALWAYS

ANSWER.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > ROSEMARIE

>> >

>> >

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Joy

________________________________

To: fibromyalgiacured

Sent: Tue, March 15, 2011 12:46:05 PM

Subject: agree w/ RoseMarie on Detox

Yes, RoseMarie,

has something here. This was the route I took. It works.

Plus do not think coconut oil is just another little product we

add to the diet. It has many curative advantages. I have seen

a big change in my body system using this humble oil.

But most of all, I place my wellness in Our Lord's Hands.

As RoseMarie says journaling and prayer is healing.

It is what has helped me.

By the way, Rose Marie, how goes everything???

Love,

>> >

>> > From: cindy_martian <cindy_martian@...

>> <mailto:cindy_martian%40yahoo.com>

>> > <mailto:cindy_martian%40yahoo.com> >

>> > Subject: Re: [lyme disease tests/Joanne/Robin/ketosis

>> > To: fibromyalgiacured

>> <mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com>

>> > <mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com>

>> > Date: Sunday, 13 March, 2011, 19:15

>> >

>> > Hi,

>> > I am asking how you know you are not in ketosis during low carbs. The test

>> > strips are not always an indicator. Joanne can seem to know by how she

>> feels,

>> > but I cannot see the results of that in my case. Also tiredness is an

>> > indicator

>> > when you are going low carb, as it takes a few weeks(or longer) for the

>> body

>> > to

>> > start burning the fat. There has been some times especially at the

>> beginning

>> > when I felt I needed more rest, but overall my energy level is much better.

>> > Some

>> > people feel worse in ketosis for a while as you are doing more detoxing. I

>> > think

>> > I have been in ketosis most all the time for the past 2 years. I get less

>> than

>> > 50 grams carbs. There has been a few times the muscle pain got worse for a

>> > short

>> > time, but over all my pain lever was reduced. Bee does say if the healing

>> > reactions get too severe we can increase the carbs a bit, but I try to not

>> > increase them even with the buckwheat as mentioned by her, as I think

>> staying

>> > in

>> > ketosis is the best in the

>> > long run. You may not have been getting enough fat, especially coconut

>> oil-65

>> > to

>> > 80 % calories should be fat.

>> >

>> > The sea salt does not bother me, but I get very little salt from other

>> > sources.

>> > If I ear out, I say no seasoning.

>> >

>> > C.

>> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > HI JOANNE

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > THAT IS HELPFUL. I AM DEFINITELY WORKING ON THIS SALT THING. I AM >>>>

DOING

>>>> >> > MORE HIGH FAT, NOT AIMING FOR KETOSIS THOUGH. I DID KETOSIS ONCE FOR

OVER

>>>> >> > 5 YEARS. I FIND IT TOO HARD TO STAY IN IT NOW. THERE IS A TEA I LIKE

THAT

>>>> >> > DOES HAS A FEW CARBS, A PROTEIN SHAKE, A MILLET CRACKER, AND A FEW

>>>> OTHER

>>>> >> > THINGS. IF I EAT OVER 20 GRAMS OF CARBS I CAN¡￣T SEEM TO STAY IN

>>>> KETOSIS.

>>>> >> > WHEN I EAT THAT LOW IN CARBS I FEEL EXHAUSTED. SO I TRY TO EAT BETWEEN

>>>> >> > 40-60 WHEN I¡￣M WATCHING IT. BUT I CAN¡￣T BE IN KETOSIS BETWEEN

40-60

>>> >> GRAMS.

>>>> >> > SO................... I¡￣VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR YEARS AND

YEARS.

I AM

>>>> >> > HEALTHIER AS A RESULT OF TRYING EVERYTHING AND EATING LOW CARB AND

>>>> AVOIDING

>>>> >> > SUGARS BUT KETOSIS SEEMS TO BE JUST OUT OF REACH FOR ME NOW. ALSO,

>>>> WHEN I

>>>> >> > EAT THAT LOW OF CARBS THE MUSCLE SPASMS GET WAY WORSE. CAN¡￣T SLEEP

I

GET

>>> >> SO

>>>> >> > MANY OF THEM SO HIGHER CARBS 40-60 AND THE LEG CRAMPS ARE

>>>> CONTROLLABLE.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > I RARELY EAT DAIRY NOW BECAUSE I KNOW I¡￣M LACTOSE INTOLERANT. I

EAT

>>>> ALMOND

>>>> >> > MILK.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > SO, THE BATTLE GOES ON. I HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR WEEKS TO LOSE SOME >>>>

WEIGHT

>>>> >> > AND THE SCALE JUST GOES UP AND DOWN THE SAME 3 POUNDS. IF I EAT VERY

LOW

>>>> >> > CARB, 20 GRAMS I LOSE 2 LBS, THEN I EAT SOMETHING SLIGHTLY SALTY AND I

GAIN

>>>> >> > IT BACK. FRUSTRATING. I WOULD LIKE TO LOSE ABOUT 8 POUNDS. MY CLOTHES

FIT

>>>> >> > A LITTLE TIGHT AND I DON¡￣T LIKE THAT FEELING. I GAINED 8 POUNDS IN

THE

>>> >> LAST

>>>> >> > TWO MONTHS WHICH IS WHY I WANT TO GET IT OFF TOO. I ATE LOW CARB LAST

>>>> MONTH

>>>> >> > FOR 5 DAYS AND LOST 6 POUNDS. THEN I ATE A SALTY PIECE OF FISH WITH

>>>> SAUCE

>>>> >> > AND GAINED 3.5 THAT NIGHT. VERY FRUSTRATING. SO I AM ASSUMING THIS

>>>> WATER

>>>> >> > WEIGHT.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > ANYHOW, I FIGURE DON¡￣T GIVE UP. AS LONG AS I TRY AND DON¡￣T

GIVE IN I

CAN

>>>> >> > RETAIN THIS AMOUNT OF HEALTH AND WEIGHT LOSS.

>>>> >> > I DON¡￣T KNOW IF I TOLD YOU JOANNE BUT I AM DOING NEUROFEEDBACK

WITH A

>>> >> DOCTOR

>>>> >> > HERE PLUS I GET EMDR FROM A DOC IN HIS OFFICE AS WELL. TWICE A WEEK I

DO

>>>> >> > THIS SINCE JANUARY OF THIS YEAR. I AM FEELING BETTER AS A RESULT AND

THEY

>>>> >> > TELL ME IT WILL ADJUST MY NERVOUS SYSTEM AND THEY GET A 95 PERCENT

>>>> ¡°CURE¡±

>>>> >> > RATE OF FIBRO, AND THE EMDR WILL HANDLE THE PTSD. I AM SEEING RESULTS

WITH

>>>> >> > THE PTSD FOR SURE!!!!!!!!! I NO LONGER HAVE PANIC ATTACKS OR

>>>> NIGHTMARES OF

>>>> >> > THE SAME OLD STUFF FROM MY PAST. I AM MORE ACTIVE IN MY ART, I AM LESS

>>>> >> > RECLUSIVE NOW TOO.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > SO, I AM HOPING THIS WILL GIVE ME A REAL CHANGE BECAUSE WHEN I READ

THIS

>>>> >> > LIST THERE IS HARDLY ANYTHING I HAVE NOT TRIED IN THE PAST TWENTY

>>>> YEARS. I

>>>> >> > HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A BELIEVER IN NATURAL CURES SO I¡￣VE DONE THE

DIETS,

THE

>>>> >> > KETOSIS, THE EXERCISE, YOGA, SWIMMING POOLS, SUPPLMENTS, SLEEP AIDES

>>>> LIKE A

>>>> >> > SLEEP MASK, USING ICE, USING HEAT AND MEDITATION. I HAVE NEVER TRIED

>>>> DRUGS

>>>> >> > BECAUSE I NEVER BELIEVED IN THEM.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > SO, THIS NEUROFEEDBACK FELT LIKE AN ANSWER FOR ME BECAUSE I WAS LOSING

HOPE

>>>> >> > HAVING TRIED EVERYTHING FOR SO LONG. WHEN THEY SHOWED ME MY BRAIN SCAN

IT

>>>> >> > SHOWED DEEP DEPRESSION AND HYPERVIGILANCE. AFTER THE FIRST 20

>>>> TREATMENTS

>>>> >> > THERE WAS CHANGE IN MY EEG THAT SHOWED A LIFT IN THE DEPRESSION AND A

>>>> >> > LESSENING OF HYPERVIGILANCE.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > SO I WILL KEEP YOU POSTED ON THIS.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > THANKS FOR YOUR HELP AND EXTENSIVE RESEARCH JOANNE. I SO APPRECIATE

YOUR

>>>> >> > HARD WORK. I READ YOUR STUFF ALL THE TIME I JUST DON¡￣T ALWAYS

ANSWER.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > ROSEMARIE

>> >

>> >