Re: Need Advise For Monday Dr. Appointment

[Guest guest]

Rich,

First and for most Honesty, Explain to the doctor just what has happened to you.

So that He/Her can make a judgment and access you on your problems/injuries.

If you lie,, try to with hold information or just omit anything and He / She

finds out from your past doctors your in for a real mess and wont believe

anything else you say.

I had a run in something like you except it was with the VA and they didn't want

to treat me with the correct drugs because of the cost.

I went to an outside civilian doctor and explained it all to him just like it

happened what was said, and My new Doctor truly believed me and now writes the

correct

scripts and just about anything else I need .

My advice just be honest and the truth will set you free lying only leads to

having to remember it

Rob

Retired Military

New York

>Rich wrote:

>How do I explain or go about this interview and not have this new doctor be a

sceptic like so many become? I will run out of meds in a week or so and I will

need him to write scips at least until he turns me over to a pain clinic. Will

this most likley be a problem? How do I convey what had happend or don't I offer

it?

[Guest guest]

I agree, be open about what happened.

In the past I had an incident which caused me to change doctors and file a

complaint. The incident had to do with the doctor wanting to give me anti

depresents, even though I was holding the results of a CT Sac which clearly

showed the perferation of my disk. And when I asked her to fill out my

disability forms she freaked out.

When I began the new doctor I informed my new doctor why it was I was travelling

to her clinic and what had happened in the past. I wanted her to hear it from me

before whatever the other doctor had written in her files showed up at my new

doctor's office.

lyn

[Guest guest]

Rob,

I agree 100% with honesty and in fact, I would never lie but I might

have omitted information. That's not lying really.

I always tell people if you lie once, it takes ten more lies to fix it if ever.

So, given that, I understand not lying but being totally open has hurt me

terribly in the past with work, family and friends.

Hummmmm

Thanks for your input

Rich

> My advice just be honest and the truth will set you free lying only

leads to having to remember it

>

>

> Rob

> Retired Military

> New York

>

[Guest guest]

Rich,

 

If you feel you need to omit information in order to get to your final goal then

that is considered to be deceit.  Being deceitful is a form of lying and that is

something you do not want to do when it comes to being treated for pain. 

 

You have an opportunity to start with a new Doctor, a clean slate, take

advantage of that.  Let the doctor ask the questions and then answer them fully

and without omission.  You don't want to raise any red flags at the get go and,

if you end up having to defend yourself in regard to one issue or another, so be

it. It would happen in the eventuality anyway.

 

It is too late now, as your appointment is on Monday but, you have a legal right

to a copy of your patient file from all of your doctors (usually at a small

cost) but it is the best defense when it comes to being your own advocate.  You

will find, in most cases, that what you said or your doctors said at the

appointment and what is written down in the file are two different things.  I

don't know why but its usually is off, one way or another, and that infuriates

me.  The important thing though is, that you are aware of what they say.

 

I fired all of my doctors, family doctor, neurosurgeon, doctors at a one of our

state Universities that I was seeing, pain clinic, everyone because all they

wanted to do was medicate my pain (they couldn't believe that I was in as much

pain as I was and had no problem telling me so) and started all over again.  You

want to talk scared? Well, I was and it was my word against all of theirs. I had

my copies of my files in hand, aquired after I had fired them, and let me tell

you were they construed views as to what really happened.  Just enough of the

true fact to make it jive but laced with much exaggeration. 

 

I was appalled at how the dictation was made after all those years.  No wonder I

was having such a hard time whenever I would see a referred doctor from

my Primary.  It was like they had all ready made up their mind on me, bases on

what my Primary had sent them, and I was screwed.  Of course, they never said

that this was the case at that time or ever but after comparing notes, it was

evident.  I had never lied to them but, they surely had, and all I can speculate

is that they knew they were in a liable situation (very very long story) so they

made it look like it was me.  I was up against a train and I knocked that train

right off the tracks, with honesty! No omission, no white lies, just complete

honesty. 

 

I gained complete respect from my new Doctors, who are still my doctors, and

they honestly could not understand how those doctors could have let me walk

around like I was without the treatment that was needed.  I was referred to a

new neurosurgeon and he was just as asstonished, I was in surgery within a

couple of weeks and, so the story goes.  Has he fixed me to the point of no

pain, nope, but he is doing the best he can with all of it. I have been with

them for years now and there is such a line of respect on both ends, it is

unbelieveable.  I keep the line of communication open and take the good with the

bad. 

 

Rich, you are angry and scared and that is understandable but, if you go in

there with that in mind you are going to shoot yourself in your foot. Do not

ommit anything when a question is asked but do not try to over explain yourself

either.  If he or she is a good doctor, they will know that there is always

two sides to every story.

 

Your story makes my heart ache, for many reasons, and I will be thinking of you

come monday and hope for the best.

 

Sincerely,

Janeene

I agree 100% with honesty and in fact, I would never lie but I might

have omitted information. That's not lying really.

[Guest guest]

Ron

omitting something about your medical history or health problems to a

Doctor is to them the same as lying about it if they find out.

My wife works in the medical field as an RN and because of her special

job as a Heart Nurse she talks to the doctors in a higher level.

She said one of the worse things you can do as a patient is omit

something because anything after that they will not believe you.

The second is they found out you lied.

How could they make the correct diagnose if you had omitted something

I would think once the doctor found out the missing information he/she

would dismiss you as a patient.

And trust me they will find out the medical field is a small place

information can get out.

Good Luck Tomorrow like I said the truth shall set you free.

Rob

Retired Military

New York

[Guest guest]

Janeene McGrandy wrote:

>  

> You have an opportunity to start with a new Doctor, a clean slate,

> take advantage of that.  Let the doctor ask the questions and then

> answer them fully and without omission.  You don't want to raise any

> red flags at the get go and, if you end up having to defend yourself

> in regard to one issue or another, so be it. It would happen in the

> eventuality anyway.

>  

Janeene,

Your story sounds like mine. After five years, they did a discogram on me and

three lumbar vertebrae discs were disintegrated and had

fissures through out. The doctor was so embarrassed when he had to

tell me because he could not see where my pain was so bad.

I had three " second opinions " at the time and was on the way out

anyway (my choice) and my neurosurgeon could not believe the

treatment of over twenty two injections without doing exams. I had a

spinal fusion so I could walk and was doing great until an auto accident.

But, I was open to every doctor and I did a memo for record of any

thing that was of question and had it placed in my files.

You are so right in what you say.

Bennie

[Guest guest]

--- " frescasdad " wrote:

>> I agree 100% with honesty and in fact, I would never lie but I might

have omitted information. That's not lying really.

> I understand not lying but being totally open has hurt me terribly

in the past with work, family and friends.

>

There's a big difference between being totally open and honest with

your doctor, and telling everybody and their dog all your business.

Our doctors need to know absolutely everything in order to treat us

effectively and SAFELY. Nobody but our significant other needs any

information whatsoever about our health and our treatment.

Cheryl in AZ

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