Guest guest Posted May 20, 2000 Report Share Posted May 20, 2000 I am not trying to get you in trouble or " holler " at you Rita. Honest I am not. I just think this issue needs to be clarified. Your statement about being lucky to only have PLS really confuses me. It might be that you mean to say you are lucky your PLS is stable and hasn't progressed. If that is what you mean please ignore the rest of what I have to say. PLS is a progressive disease that causes gradual loss of the limbs, arms/legs and loss of speech. It gradually progresses over a period that is much slower than ALS, usually around 20 years. The end result of the progression is a person that is unable to walk, talk, or feed themselves. A lot of people start getting symptoms of PLS later in life and die from other causes prior to being totally dependent on others for their care. Those that acquire this disease earlier in life usually reach a point when they are totally dependent on others. Some people are fortunate enough to have extremely slow progression. Others are fortunate enough to go through a sort of remission. The same is true for ALS. But reality is, most follow the above progression resulting in quadraplegia along with being unable to communicate. Scary picture? I'm not trying to be a doomsdayer or scare anyone, just stating facts. To say you are lucky to " only have PLS " makes me wonder if your neurologist ever explained the prognosis of this disease to you. Again, I apologize if you meant you feel lucky to have a mild case of PLS or you feel lucky yours is in remission. I hope and pray that your PLS stays as it is and doesn't progress further. And I hope and pray that the rest of us will be as lucky as you have been. You seem to be an extremely nice, upbeat person that is trying to keep a positive attitude and help others do the same. But I just have a problem with the use of the words " lucky " and " only " when referring to PLS. Rita, we need your positive attitude in this group so please don't get upset with what I've said. I probably should have just let this go. I am certain you didn't mean to insinuate that PLS is not a serious, devastating disease, possibly you were just trying to point out that some people also have a rough burden to bear? > Really Ronnie: > > I have never experienced any type of problems with people commenting on > how I walk. All the people I am in contact with, marvel at what I > accomplish, and my being up all the time. I hope I didn't offend anyone > with the phrase " crip " , I have really tried to be a good girl, and have > not been hollered at in quite a long time. > > & I went out to dinner with some friends yesterday. Jim is a quad, > and married to a gal with polio. They have been married 4 years. They > were married in the chairs on TV in Boston. We were 7, and we were in a > busy restaurant in a mall. Thats when I watch people. Jim has to be > hand fed by his wife, and she takes care of him first, and usually by > the time she gets to eat, her meal is cold. I heard one lady sitting at > a table near us, " isn't that wonderful " . So I don't know why people get > so up tight about how they walk or talk, we are all God's kids. And > whenever I am with Jim and his wife, I feel so lucky to ONLY HAVE PLS! > > Rita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2000 Report Share Posted May 20, 2000 , I'm not yelling at you either but, like Rita, I too feel lucky to only have PLS! I could have been luckier and been one of those 90 year olds who has never been hospitalized but I wasn't but I still feel lucky that I got a few more good years rather than the rapid downhill with ALS. This does not deny that the future is pretty awful; only recognizes that I appreciate what I have now. I don't have time to worry about how fast or slow I will fail- I can only appreciate that it will probably be slower than someone with classic ALS. Today has enough problems that I don't need to borrow tomorrow's. Today I feel lucky but not stable. Thanks, Lavon At 11:48 PM 05/20/2000 +0000, you wrote: >It >might be that you mean to say you are lucky your PLS is stable and >hasn't progressed. If that is what you mean please ignore the rest >of >what I have to say. > >PLS is a progressive disease that causes gradual loss of the limbs, >arms/legs and loss of speech. It gradually progresses over a period >that is much slower than ALS, usually around 20 years. The end >result of the progression is a person that is unable to walk, talk, >or >feed themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2000 Report Share Posted May 20, 2000 : What I was referring to, if you read my letter clearly, I had dinner with friends. One of the people was a school friend of mine, who at 16 dove into a pond and broke his neck, and has been a quadriplegic for almost 50 years, married to a gal with polio (since she was 19). They met in a rehab center, and were married 42 years ago. He is paralyzed from the neck down, and paints by mouth. They are both an amazing devoted couple. When ever we are with them my problems seem small. And when we were at the restaurant she had to cut his food and feed him like a baby, but she did it with love. And a person sitting near our table thought it was wonderful that Fay, his wife put him first (while her food got cold). Every time I leave them, after a visit, I alway say " Thank God, I only have PLS " . As you get to know me better, you will find I can always find a positive in a negative situation. I am sorry if that offends people, but that how I survive and live with this disease. I don't consider myself as having a mild case of PLS, I just had to adjust my life style accordingly, and accept this disease as best I can. I have a wonderful neurologist, who because so little is known about this disease, has been very upfront with me, does not know what is down the road for any of us. Yes, some will progress faster than other's and we don't know why. Maybe it's what I do on a dailey basis, that is keeping me going, I just don't know. My life is full, and I don't have time to worry about what other people think. I know what works for me, and would hope that other people would be able to understand, that this is who I am, take or leave it. I am having dinner with a friend on Monday, who has MS. I met Bill 15 years ago, and you would never know he had any problem at all. In fact my symptoms were starting to show, and would kid each other about it. Now Bill is confined to a wheel chair and is failing fast. He is so frustrated and his spirits are really down. he said " he needed a visit from me " , can you imagine??? I will leave his company and once again say " thank God I only have PLS " , that the way I feel! Sorry to get so carried away, but when I get " hollered at " (even a little) have to fight back. , please don't be upset with me, I know there are many other people worse off than me, and there is nothing I can do about that. We all have crosses to bear, I guess mine is not all that heavy for me. Rita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2000 Report Share Posted May 20, 2000 Lavon: You said in a few words, what took me forever to say. Thanks for simplifying for me. I always know how I feel, but find it hard to put into words (thats how I get in trouble), Rita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2000 Report Share Posted June 7, 2000 Hi PLS-Friends! I think that statistics of progression and life expectancy in PLS and ALS are not so important for the well-being. Anyway for my mental cases. Although my condition is not the best, I am convinced of my life task. A so one statistic is important for resarch of treatments and curing. We peoples are constantly individuals and we have individuals courses of the diseases. My friend is a scientist of cellbiology. Now, he is making his title (doctor) of motoneuron disease. Although he is scientist, he is quite agree with me. The last three weeks ago, I did have a infection of the lungs with very congestion of secrets because I have swallowed the wrong way. I was nearly suffocated. Now I am very happy because I am at the good way. One week ago I did have an EMG of tongue. Incidentally, it was so painfull!!!!! Now I must wated of the results (exclusion ALS), but the neurologist said me that a diagnostic of PLS is very difficult because the magnetic stiumulations of brains are very unreiable and is always a diagnostic of exlusion. He recommended me to contacting other PLS peoples in US or Canada because in Switzerland we have maybe only 3 concerned persons. Maybe I am the first? We don't know. I think, if I have ALS then my course, progression and the nature is very rare because I have this disease since 14 years ago. (Now I am 28!). If I have PLS it is the same. The course and progression is then sure slowly but nowadays very aggressiv. (I am on a non-invasive breathing assistant at night and I am in a wheelchair.) Nevertheless, I am very cheerful and happy. I have a lot of friends, I am in a very succsessfully wheelchair-danceformation and my paintings are known in our region. You all are my friends too and I am suprised of your correspondending and helping yourselves. Thanks for all! Have a good day Sonja PS: I have any problems with my English. Excuse me! > > > I'LL BET JOE WOODRUFF WOULD TRADE HIS FULL BLOWN ALS MONSTER FOR > > PLS!! > > > > I bet he would too, but don't forget, PLS eventually does the same > to > > a person that ALS does, just slower. I'll admit that some PLSers > > don't have what appears to be full blown PLS, call it type 1 vs > type > > 2, call it whatever you want. There does indeed seem to be two > > distinct groups represented in our PLS world. Those that have leg > > only symptoms and those that have full blown - legs, arms, bulbar, > > fatigue, breathing, etc. The ones with the full blown will > > eventually end up just like an ALS patient, the only difference is > > time. Since most are in the 50's when they notice PLS starting, > they > > have a good chance of dying from something else before they reach > the > > stage of being totally incapacitated. Those that develop PLS > earlier > > in life and have the bulbar symptoms most likely will live long > > enough to be in Joe Woodruff's situation. Joe Alberstadt and Kathy > > are good example of what happens to a PLS patient after 20 years of > > this disease. They are both remarkable in their attitude and > drive. > > I think people forget how difficult it is for them to accomplish > what > > they do. Walk a mile in their shoes, or rather ride a mile in > their > > chairs, imagine a day in their lives, be dependent on someone else > to > > bath and dress you, feed you, shop for you and talk for you. (I > > realize neither Joe nor Kathy require that much care at this time, > > I'm being dramatic, but not unrealistic.) > > I am on this " Awareness " kick because I think sticking my head > > in the sand and hoping and praying my PLS won't progress too > rapidly > > or too much is as foolish as a person spending their money willy > > nilly and never being concerned about their retirement. No on > wants > > to dwell on the negative " what if " but to be prepared and to do > what > > you can to make a difference, while you still can, is the smart and > > responsible thing to do. > > If I wait for my condition to deteriorate before taking > action, > > it will definately be too late. I know there is nothing out there > > now, but that CAN change. I want to help make it change. > > We all need to do what we can. The research fund can be a > start > > for us. If we don't initiate the research, no one else will. > Every > > little bit can and will help. Please don't think because our PLS > is > > not quite as horrid as ALS, we don't need to find answers and we > > should just quietly accept our deterioration just because it is > > slower. Maybe the answer to ALS treatment is in studying PLS > > patients! Maybe we can find a way to slow our progression to a > point > > that it won't ever be a big deal in our lives. Think of diabetes. > > It can be successfully managed in most patients. It doesn't have > to > > shorten a person's life or cause disabilities. It quite often does > > even with medical treatment, but most diabetics can lead a fairly > > normal life. In a few years, hopefully, ALS and PLS will be like > > diabetes. Not a diagnosis you want to get but one that is > treatable > > and manageable for most. 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Guest guest Posted June 7, 2000 Report Share Posted June 7, 2000 Sonja: What a terrfic attitude. to me (having this disease for 20 years),How you deal with it mentally is half the battle. You can take all the pills, and exercise till the cows come home, but you have to stay healthy mentally. God Bless! Rita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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