Guest guest Posted February 25, 2002 Report Share Posted February 25, 2002 >>To be honest with you..Your personal opinions never 'bother' me at all.<< You may say that, and want to believe it, but your attitude implies something totally different. >>I am not offended by anyones ignorance of a situation. << No, you are offended by my experience, because it implies something different than what you believe. >>As long as we are in a public group, your negative opposition or belief in our cleanses (where stones come from, stones being real, 100 of stones being real, etc)will be met with equal positive support(or opposition in your case). Debating goes two ways.<< And this has been debated many times, with respect on both sides, and no one calling anyone ignorant. >>Your opinions are not 'bad'. They may not be true, but they are yours none the less.<< Ditto >>I will continue to support mine as well. << No one has asked you not to. >>By the way, taking little bits of posts out of text only trys to confuse the discussion and you only look more ignorant when you do that. Everyone in here knows the context anyway. << Everyone had read the whole post, as you say. And once again, I will not respond in kind to you, because your attitude towards others speaks volumes for itself. T>>hat little smile is actually a laugh, not a smile. I find some people to be funny.<< Of course, it is easier than giving someone with a differing opinion any serious thought or respect. This is unlike most members of this list. A>>lso, I have never seen anyone in here who has had surgery asking you for advice about what to do without a gb. There is plenty of information about that already. >> Well, they have. Most of our conversations go on off-list, so as not to interfere with the main purpose of the list. >>You actually are spending more time in here declaiming what we believe to be successful stone eliminating while keeping our vital digestive organ than you do helping people recover after surgery. << Actually, I spend hardly any time discussing my feelings on that. They are mixed, as are a few other peoples' who don't often post their views, for obvious reasons. >>Everyone knows and sees this fact already. << I don't think that you can claim to know how " everyone " thinks. And, I think you are wrong. >>I don't consider anyone a failure for not keeping their gb. Some people who have a diseased gb have no choice but to remove it. Most people can save it if they try. That's what we are doing in this group. We are taking the alternate medicine route to save our digestive organs. We firmly believe in what we are doing because we have positive results and feel overall better for cleansing vs. surgery. We thrive on the battle to save our organs.<< I know this. I have been a member of this group for two years, most of that pre-op. >>If you have given yours up, please don't feel as though you are a failure, you just took another option. << I never said I felt like a failure, I don't. Debra _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2002 Report Share Posted February 25, 2002 >>The posts coming from 'Debra' and 'Sam' are from the same e-mail source. You don't understand this?<< I don't undestand the point. We both use hotmail??? Yeah, so what? >>Once again, your opinion doesn't 'bother' me at all. Why do you feel it does? My difference of opinion is only in direct opposition to yours. This is called debate. You shouldn't feel that it is bothersome to me or you. It really is nothing personal. I love to debate opinions, especially in a topic that I believe in. << Calling people ignorant because they have a different opinion or experience has nothing to do with respectful debate. And it is great to believe strongly in something, and share those ideas. When it becomes a problem is when someone feels an overcoming need to convince someone that they are " right. " I don't have that need. One minute you say you like debate, while previously your attitude was, " We don't need to hear this. " Interesting. As for me, I have no need to debate you. I respect your beliefs. What I do not respect is your need to put down those who feel even slightly differently. Debra _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2002 Report Share Posted February 25, 2002 All these oppinions pertaining to galbladder health/disease are helpful. Even these petty arguments between Barry and Debra! D B <fairyflight@...> wrote: >>This is a " Gallbladder cleanse " group, not a " Gallblader surgery recovering group " . Maybe someone should start one of those...?<< Statements like this only make me feel that it is more important for me to remain here. There are some people who will come here, become a part of this community, and then for whatever reasons, end up having surgery. (As was my case.) It is important that someone be here to let them know that they are not failures, to give them information that they may otherwise not be able to get, from a community they are already a part of. I have already helped several people who have been on this list, and that is why I am here. As I have said before, if you do not care for my opinions, just hit the delete key. Debra _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Learn more from our experience, more then 200 liver flush stories: http:///messages/gallstones-testimonials Liver Cleanse Recipe: http://www.CureZone.com/cleanse/liver/ Images: http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/cleanse_flush/ http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/intrahepatic_stones/ Post message: gallstones Receive no-mail: gallstones-nomail Subscribe: gallstones-subscribe Unsubscribe: gallstones-unsubscribe Web Sites for more information: http://CureZone.com/gallstones/ http://www.liverdoctor.com/ http://www.sensiblehealth.com/ http://www.cyberpog.com/health/index.htm http://www.relfe.com/gall_stone_cleanse.html Group page: gallstones To change your subscription to digest (receive up to 25 e-mails in just one single e-mail, once a day) send blank e-mail to: gallstones-digest To change your subscription to NO-MAIL send blank e-mail to: gallstones-nomail To change your subscription to NORMAL (receive each message separate) send blank e-mail to: gallstones-normal You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the Gallstones group on 's groups. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself! Have a nice day ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2002 Report Share Posted February 25, 2002 >>Even these petty arguments between Barry and Debra!<< LOL! Didn't realize I was arguing. Just mostly fending off name-calling. Debra _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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