Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Thank you Rosemarie. You hit the nail on the head. I did feel outrage and I am especially outraged by bullies. This is a huge trigger for anger and outrage with me when they bully. And you hit the nail on the head as I said, then all the chemicals release in my body from my anger and I felt it last night. The 5-HTP did the trick. I am pretty okay today and up and we'll see how I walk, but I need to assess who I am with. I too will say, " It can't be that. " But it can and it is. Thank you so much. Love, Jean > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joanne, > > > > I think I need to hear this too shall pass. It's 1:40 am and I've gone into a > > major fibro flare and suddenly depression too and my back neck is killing me > > along with top thigh ligaments. I just posted at around 11 or so I think and I > > was in a bit of a flare but it's hit a bit harder suddenly and mood has gone > > into a not good place. This is worst since Corvalen M. Maybe it will pass, I > > don't know what's going on. > > > > I wonder if it's connected, the fibro flare and the mood dip. I am not feeling > > well. I keep 5-HTP on hand for real emergecy when I feel so down I feel sick > > to my stomach. This feels like a bad flare with a chemical depression. I know > > fibro affects neurotransmitters. > > > > Joanne I have no idea what's going on. I was at a mtg for 12 step study and it > > is a mixed mtg of all 12 step programs, overeaters, debtors, etc. > > > > Anyway for about a month or more I was in a 12 step study " group " of about 6 > > to help each other with the steps. They are all AA's except me, and great > > except for one guy who got very abusive a couple weeks ago when the other men > > weren't there and it's his house. I was very stressed at the mtg tonight > > though there are 150 or so people because he was such a bully, with the AA > > rage and abusiveness of the AA rageaholic. > > > > I don't know if this could cause a flare, but I felt deep anger tonight at the > > big mtg as he is there, because the weekend he did that it was just him and me > > and another woman with no voice, very much a " no voice " woman. He only got > > abusive because there were no men. But I feel very much anger at any abuse by > > some nutty AA. I felt anger at the mtg and when I got home remembering how I > > was helpless as he is this tall man and I am a petite woman. > > > > Anyway I felt bad when I got home from the mtg wonderng if I should be in a > > huge step study led by an AA (long time Alanons have asked me why I would put > > myself in that position) but all the others seemed fine,and I've met many AA's > > who are lovely). > > > > I don't know if this historical abuse set this off. I can't beleive I felt so > > bad I just took some 5-HTP just about 1/5 of a capsule. It doesn't sit great > > with me but can pull me out of a severe mood dip. > > > > I don't know what's hitting, neck is so stiff and shoulder and going down > > back. > > > > Feeling very bad and need a little support here. > > > > Jean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Great, great advice Joanne, last night and I guess because himalayan sea salt and Vita C can kill lyme bacteria, I wanted to take Vita C last night. I will take it today. Love, Jean > > > > Subject: Help guys... > To: fibromyalgiacured > Date: Wednesday, 5 January, 2011, 10:02 > > > Â > > > > Joanne, > > I think I need to hear this too shall pass. It's 1:40 am and I've gone into a major fibro flare and suddenly depression too and my back neck is killing me along with top thigh ligaments. I just posted at around 11 or so I think and I was in a bit of a flare but it's hit a bit harder suddenly and mood has gone into a not good place. This is worst since Corvalen M. Maybe it will pass, I don't know what's going on. > > I wonder if it's connected, the fibro flare and the mood dip. I am not feeling well. I keep 5-HTP on hand for real emergecy when I feel so down I feel sick to my stomach. This feels like a bad flare with a chemical depression. I know fibro affects neurotransmitters. > > Joanne I have no idea what's going on. I was at a mtg for 12 step study and it is a mixed mtg of all 12 step programs, overeaters, debtors, etc. > > Anyway for about a month or more I was in a 12 step study " group " of about 6 to help each other with the steps. They are all AA's except me, and great except for one guy who got very abusive a couple weeks ago when the other men weren't there and it's his house. I was very stressed at the mtg tonight though there are 150 or so people because he was such a bully, with the AA rage and abusiveness of the AA rageaholic. > > I don't know if this could cause a flare, but I felt deep anger tonight at the big mtg as he is there, because the weekend he did that it was just him and me and another woman with no voice, very much a " no voice " woman. He only got abusive because there were no men. But I feel very much anger at any abuse by some nutty AA. I felt anger at the mtg and when I got home remembering how I was helpless as he is this tall man and I am a petite woman. > > Anyway I felt bad when I got home from the mtg wonderng if I should be in a huge step study led by an AA (long time Alanons have asked me why I would put myself in that position) but all the others seemed fine,and I've met many AA's who are lovely). > > I don't know if this historical abuse set this off. I can't beleive I felt so bad I just took some 5-HTP just about 1/5 of a capsule. It doesn't sit great with me but can pull me out of a severe mood dip. > > I don't know what's hitting, neck is so stiff and shoulder and going down back. > > Feeling very bad and need a little support here. > > Jean > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 You are so welcome. Its so hard to remember sometimes because we don¹t think we are that ³weak² or that easily influenced. WE are ³adults after all² and we are very reasonable people. So why should it bother us so much? That¹s our analytical mind speaking. But then we have this little thing called the subconscious that lies to us or something like that. It blossoms when we least expect it. I am just learning about this and somatization from a biofeedback dr here. Its helping me see my life in perspective like never before. Keep sharing. I learn a lot from what you write even though you may n ot know that. Sincerely, rosemarie > > > > > > Thank you Rosemarie. You hit the nail on the head. I did feel outrage and I am > especially outraged by bullies. This is a huge trigger for anger and outrage > with me when they bully. And you hit the nail on the head as I said, then all > the chemicals release in my body from my anger and I felt it last night. > > The 5-HTP did the trick. I am pretty okay today and up and we'll see how I > walk, but I need to assess who I am with. I too will say, " It can't be that. " > But it can and it is. > > Thank you so much. > > Love, > > Jean > > >> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Joanne, >>> > > >>> > > I think I need to hear this too shall pass. It's 1:40 am and I've gone >>> into a >>> > > major fibro flare and suddenly depression too and my back neck is >>> killing me >>> > > along with top thigh ligaments. I just posted at around 11 or so I think >>> and I >>> > > was in a bit of a flare but it's hit a bit harder suddenly and mood has >>> gone >>> > > into a not good place. This is worst since Corvalen M. Maybe it will >>> pass, I >>> > > don't know what's going on. >>> > > >>> > > I wonder if it's connected, the fibro flare and the mood dip. I am not >>> feeling >>> > > well. I keep 5-HTP on hand for real emergecy when I feel so down I feel >>> sick >>> > > to my stomach. This feels like a bad flare with a chemical depression. I >>> know >>> > > fibro affects neurotransmitters. >>> > > >>> > > Joanne I have no idea what's going on. I was at a mtg for 12 step study >>> and it >>> > > is a mixed mtg of all 12 step programs, overeaters, debtors, etc. >>> > > >>> > > Anyway for about a month or more I was in a 12 step study " group " of >>> about 6 >>> > > to help each other with the steps. They are all AA's except me, and >>> great >>> > > except for one guy who got very abusive a couple weeks ago when the >>> other men >>> > > weren't there and it's his house. I was very stressed at the mtg tonight >>> > > though there are 150 or so people because he was such a bully, with the AA >>> > > rage and abusiveness of the AA rageaholic. >>> > > >>> > > I don't know if this could cause a flare, but I felt deep anger tonight >>> at the >>> > > big mtg as he is there, because the weekend he did that it was just him >>> and me >>> > > and another woman with no voice, very much a " no voice " woman. He only got >>> > > abusive because there were no men. But I feel very much anger at any >>> abuse by >>> > > some nutty AA. I felt anger at the mtg and when I got home remembering >>> how I >>> > > was helpless as he is this tall man and I am a petite woman. >>> > > >>> > > Anyway I felt bad when I got home from the mtg wonderng if I should be >>> in a >>> > > huge step study led by an AA (long time Alanons have asked me why I >>> would put >>> > > myself in that position) but all the others seemed fine,and I've met >>> many AA's >>> > > who are lovely). >>> > > >>> > > I don't know if this historical abuse set this off. I can't beleive I >>> felt so >>> > > bad I just took some 5-HTP just about 1/5 of a capsule. It doesn't sit >>> great >>> > > with me but can pull me out of a severe mood dip. >>> > > >>> > > I don't know what's hitting, neck is so stiff and shoulder and going >>> down >>> > > back. >>> > > >>> > > Feeling very bad and need a little support here. >>> > > >>> > > Jean >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Hi Sound's like the guys angry behavior stirred up a bad cluster for you. I totally agree w/Rosemarie. Write on a piece of paper, that that guy's anger has nothing to do w/you and that although you didn't take control by leaving, the next time you will. And that you totally release his negative energy from your mind and body. (take the piece of paper, ball it up and literally throw it into the trash). Now right on another piece of paper or in a journal, thanking your body for alarming you through the fibro flare-up, that this type of exposure isn't healthy for you and that as soon as you feel any twinge of anything in your body or mind in the future you will take your exit to preserve your physical and mental health, no matter what anyone else thinks. And, write in the present tense, that you are fine, you are okay, the flare up is gone, (even if it isn't) just tell your brain that it is. I'd also like suggest, if you haven't already read them, a few good reads; 1) You can heal your life, by Louise L. Hay 2) Feelings Buried Alive Never Die.... Karol K. Truman. Both books are very enlightening and have exercises in them that are great. I do hope that this helps and that you are able to be thankful to your body for warning you, when it has been overloaded. It took a long time, but I now know when to take my leave, or separate myself way before my body gets to that point. Take care, Ann > > Joanne, > > I think I need to hear this too shall pass. It's 1:40 am and I've gone into a major fibro flare and suddenly depression too and my back neck is killing me along with top thigh ligaments. I just posted at around 11 or so I think and I was in a bit of a flare but it's hit a bit harder suddenly and mood has gone into a not good place. This is worst since Corvalen M. Maybe it will pass, I don't know what's going on. > > I wonder if it's connected, the fibro flare and the mood dip. I am not feeling well. I keep 5-HTP on hand for real emergecy when I feel so down I feel sick to my stomach. This feels like a bad flare with a chemical depression. I know fibro affects neurotransmitters. > > Joanne I have no idea what's going on. I was at a mtg for 12 step study and it is a mixed mtg of all 12 step programs, overeaters, debtors, etc. > > Anyway for about a month or more I was in a 12 step study " group " of about 6 to help each other with the steps. They are all AA's except me, and great except for one guy who got very abusive a couple weeks ago when the other men weren't there and it's his house. I was very stressed at the mtg tonight though there are 150 or so people because he was such a bully, with the AA rage and abusiveness of the AA rageaholic. > > I don't know if this could cause a flare, but I felt deep anger tonight at the big mtg as he is there, because the weekend he did that it was just him and me and another woman with no voice, very much a " no voice " woman. He only got abusive because there were no men. But I feel very much anger at any abuse by some nutty AA. I felt anger at the mtg and when I got home remembering how I was helpless as he is this tall man and I am a petite woman. > > Anyway I felt bad when I got home from the mtg wonderng if I should be in a huge step study led by an AA (long time Alanons have asked me why I would put myself in that position) but all the others seemed fine,and I've met many AA's who are lovely). > > I don't know if this historical abuse set this off. I can't beleive I felt so bad I just took some 5-HTP just about 1/5 of a capsule. It doesn't sit great with me but can pull me out of a severe mood dip. > > I don't know what's hitting, neck is so stiff and shoulder and going down back. > > Feeling very bad and need a little support here. > > Jean > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Thank you so much Ann. I am off and not quite running but I love what you said about the body warning you. Also I am going to see if my body warns me also about the big mtg. But with all that everyone said, you , Rosemarie and Joanne, I have some protective very clever techniques to help with this sort of thing. I haven't time to copy everyone's advice on this but I will come back and do it as it makes me feel I have a little more control or power to keep myself safe. Take care Ann. Love, Jean > > > > Joanne, > > > > I think I need to hear this too shall pass. It's 1:40 am and I've gone into a major fibro flare and suddenly depression too and my back neck is killing me along with top thigh ligaments. I just posted at around 11 or so I think and I was in a bit of a flare but it's hit a bit harder suddenly and mood has gone into a not good place. This is worst since Corvalen M. Maybe it will pass, I don't know what's going on. > > > > I wonder if it's connected, the fibro flare and the mood dip. I am not feeling well. I keep 5-HTP on hand for real emergecy when I feel so down I feel sick to my stomach. This feels like a bad flare with a chemical depression. I know fibro affects neurotransmitters. > > > > Joanne I have no idea what's going on. I was at a mtg for 12 step study and it is a mixed mtg of all 12 step programs, overeaters, debtors, etc. > > > > Anyway for about a month or more I was in a 12 step study " group " of about 6 to help each other with the steps. They are all AA's except me, and great except for one guy who got very abusive a couple weeks ago when the other men weren't there and it's his house. I was very stressed at the mtg tonight though there are 150 or so people because he was such a bully, with the AA rage and abusiveness of the AA rageaholic. > > > > I don't know if this could cause a flare, but I felt deep anger tonight at the big mtg as he is there, because the weekend he did that it was just him and me and another woman with no voice, very much a " no voice " woman. He only got abusive because there were no men. But I feel very much anger at any abuse by some nutty AA. I felt anger at the mtg and when I got home remembering how I was helpless as he is this tall man and I am a petite woman. > > > > Anyway I felt bad when I got home from the mtg wonderng if I should be in a huge step study led by an AA (long time Alanons have asked me why I would put myself in that position) but all the others seemed fine,and I've met many AA's who are lovely). > > > > I don't know if this historical abuse set this off. I can't beleive I felt so bad I just took some 5-HTP just about 1/5 of a capsule. It doesn't sit great with me but can pull me out of a severe mood dip. > > > > I don't know what's hitting, neck is so stiff and shoulder and going down back. > > > > Feeling very bad and need a little support here. > > > > Jean > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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