Guest guest Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Debra, The neurologist at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Mn are very good. Call and talk with her doctor there and ask him about LBD as her problem. They know what drugs can and can't be used with LBD. That is where my husband was diagnoised with LBD. I am not at all familiar with the other disease. Kathy, MN ________________________________ To: LBDcaregivers Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 12:38:55 PM Subject: New to group Hello everyone. My name is Debra and I am daughter and long distance caregiver to my mother , who was presumably diagnosed with MSA in May of this year at the Mayo Clinic Rochester. She went into a nursing home last week for a respite stay for my dad and symptoms she was having before at home have led me to believe that my mom may have LBD instead of MSA. There is no diagnosis to support this, nor do I plan to make her go through any tests. My mother is bed bound, unable to feed herself. Speech is very rough, can't understand her most days. She has been going through bouts of paranoia about what people are planning to do to her. She calls out for my dad all night, and yells for him even when a caregiver his present. We are in the process of getting her admitted to a facility, but my problem is this. In the nursing home she was in with respite, they gave her ativan and I know that people with LBD or MSA for that matter react badly to any antipsychotic. But the problem is, if she is yelling out constantly in a skilled care setting they are going to have to quiet her. I don't want her to be given these type of drugs, but again, I can't have her being disruptive. I guess I just want to know what I can do. I've talked the hospice nurse that is taking care of her and have suggested more LBD friendly drugs, but I would like to get this taken care of before she goes into a facility. My dad is so stressed and overwhelmed and so am I. My mom is accusing people of doing things to her etc. My grandma had Alzheimers, but I, as of yet, have only had to deal with mild memory issues with my mom. I know I am doing the right thing by getting her care, but if we dad isn't next to her bed all the time she cries and yells out. Debra in Indiana member of the Shydrager yahoogroups, new member here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 I will see if I can locate his information. My dad has it. MSA is Multiple System Atrophy. It is a neuro degenerative disorder. She has many symptoms of that, but she is also starting to show dementia symptoms which is not part of the MSA diagnosis. However, the doctors said all along she had more than one disease process going on. So she might have both. Debra in Indiana > > Debra, The neurologist at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Mn are very good. Call and talk with her doctor there and ask him about LBD as her problem. They know what drugs can and can't be used with LBD. That is where my husband was diagnoised with LBD. I am not at all familiar with the other disease. Kathy, MN > > > > > ________________________________ > > To: LBDcaregivers > Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 12:38:55 PM > Subject: New to group > > > Hello everyone. My name is Debra and I am daughter and long distance caregiver to my mother , who was presumably diagnosed with MSA in May of this year at the Mayo Clinic Rochester. She went into a nursing home last week for a respite stay for my dad and symptoms she was having before at home have led me to believe that my mom may have LBD instead of MSA. There is no diagnosis to support this, nor do I plan to make her go through any tests. My mother is bed bound, unable to feed herself. Speech is very rough, can't understand her most days. > > She has been going through bouts of paranoia about what people are planning to do to her. She calls out for my dad all night, and yells for him even when a caregiver his present. We are in the process of getting her admitted to a facility, but my problem is this. In the nursing home she was in with respite, they gave her ativan and I know that people with LBD or MSA for that matter react badly to any antipsychotic. But the problem is, if she is yelling out constantly in a skilled care setting they are going to have to quiet her. I don't want her to be given these type of drugs, but again, I can't have her being disruptive. > > I guess I just want to know what I can do. I've talked the hospice nurse that is taking care of her and have suggested more LBD friendly drugs, but I would like to get this taken care of before she goes into a facility. My dad is so stressed and overwhelmed and so am I. My mom is accusing people of doing things to her etc. > > My grandma had Alzheimers, but I, as of yet, have only had to deal with mild memory issues with my mom. > > I know I am doing the right thing by getting her care, but if we dad isn't next to her bed all the time she cries and yells out. > > Debra in Indiana > member of the Shydrager yahoogroups, > new member here. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 It's probably theoretically possible that MSA and LBD co-occur, but I've never heard of anyone with this confirmed pathology. > > > > Debra, The neurologist at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Mn are very good. Call and talk with her doctor there and ask him about LBD as her problem. They know what drugs can and can't be used with LBD. That is where my husband was diagnoised with LBD. I am not at all familiar with the other disease. Kathy, MN > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Debra <admlizkirk@> > > To: LBDcaregivers > > Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 12:38:55 PM > > Subject: New to group > > > > > > Hello everyone. My name is Debra and I am daughter and long distance caregiver to my mother , who was presumably diagnosed with MSA in May of this year at the Mayo Clinic Rochester. She went into a nursing home last week for a respite stay for my dad and symptoms she was having before at home have led me to believe that my mom may have LBD instead of MSA. There is no diagnosis to support this, nor do I plan to make her go through any tests. My mother is bed bound, unable to feed herself. Speech is very rough, can't understand her most days. > > > > She has been going through bouts of paranoia about what people are planning to do to her. She calls out for my dad all night, and yells for him even when a caregiver his present. We are in the process of getting her admitted to a facility, but my problem is this. In the nursing home she was in with respite, they gave her ativan and I know that people with LBD or MSA for that matter react badly to any antipsychotic. But the problem is, if she is yelling out constantly in a skilled care setting they are going to have to quiet her. I don't want her to be given these type of drugs, but again, I can't have her being disruptive. > > > > I guess I just want to know what I can do. I've talked the hospice nurse that is taking care of her and have suggested more LBD friendly drugs, but I would like to get this taken care of before she goes into a facility. My dad is so stressed and overwhelmed and so am I. My mom is accusing people of doing things to her etc. > > > > My grandma had Alzheimers, but I, as of yet, have only had to deal with mild memory issues with my mom. > > > > I know I am doing the right thing by getting her care, but if we dad isn't next to her bed all the time she cries and yells out. > > > > Debra in Indiana > > member of the Shydrager yahoogroups, > > new member here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Well my mom has been " unconventional " in all her disease processes, most of her life. So this wouldn't surprise me with her. I agree, it would be extremely unusual. Debra in Indiana > > > > > > Debra, The neurologist at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Mn are very good. Call and talk with her doctor there and ask him about LBD as her problem. They know what drugs can and can't be used with LBD. That is where my husband was diagnoised with LBD. I am not at all familiar with the other disease. Kathy, MN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Debra <admlizkirk@> > > > To: LBDcaregivers > > > Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 12:38:55 PM > > > Subject: New to group > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone. My name is Debra and I am daughter and long distance caregiver to my mother , who was presumably diagnosed with MSA in May of this year at the Mayo Clinic Rochester. She went into a nursing home last week for a respite stay for my dad and symptoms she was having before at home have led me to believe that my mom may have LBD instead of MSA. There is no diagnosis to support this, nor do I plan to make her go through any tests. My mother is bed bound, unable to feed herself. Speech is very rough, can't understand her most days. > > > > > > She has been going through bouts of paranoia about what people are planning to do to her. She calls out for my dad all night, and yells for him even when a caregiver his present. We are in the process of getting her admitted to a facility, but my problem is this. In the nursing home she was in with respite, they gave her ativan and I know that people with LBD or MSA for that matter react badly to any antipsychotic. But the problem is, if she is yelling out constantly in a skilled care setting they are going to have to quiet her. I don't want her to be given these type of drugs, but again, I can't have her being disruptive. > > > > > > I guess I just want to know what I can do. I've talked the hospice nurse that is taking care of her and have suggested more LBD friendly drugs, but I would like to get this taken care of before she goes into a facility. My dad is so stressed and overwhelmed and so am I. My mom is accusing people of doing things to her etc. > > > > > > My grandma had Alzheimers, but I, as of yet, have only had to deal with mild memory issues with my mom. > > > > > > I know I am doing the right thing by getting her care, but if we dad isn't next to her bed all the time she cries and yells out. > > > > > > Debra in Indiana > > > member of the Shydrager yahoogroups, > > > new member here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Hi Debra, A big warm Texas welcome to this forum of loving, caring caregivers. I know others have written of which I haven't read, but I have had the same problems with my Don, who does have LBD. He actually became violent. He is on Seroquel, and Aricept. I can't rave about his medications enough. It has given me back my loving, calm, man. I know some can't take Seroquel, but there sure is no harm in trying it to see if it will be the peace maker for your Mom as it is for my Don. He was given 25mg of Seroquel at first, (go low and slow). It has now been increased to 50mg at bedtime. I give the Aricept in the mornings as it is a mind stimulant, and he is more alert during the day instead of at night. He sleeps well and gets up very peaceful. It has done marvels for him. Love with a smile of hope, Imogene Caregiver for my True Texas Gentleman Husband. Diagnosed with AD in 2005. And then, with LBD 2006. A happy personality is contagious. Infect someone today. Yours Truly In a message dated 10/28/2009 11:55:03 A.M. Central Standard Time, admlizkirk@... writes: Hello everyone. My name is Debra and I am daughter and long distance caregiver to my mother , who was presumably diagnosed with MSA in May of this year at the Mayo Clinic Rochester. She went into a nursing home last week for a respite stay for my dad and symptoms she was having before at home have led me to believe that my mom may have LBD instead of MSA. There is no diagnosis to support this, nor do I plan to make her go through any tests. My mother is bed bound, unable to feed herself. Speech is very rough, can't understand her most days. She has been going through bouts of paranoia about what people are planning to do to her. She calls out for my dad all night, and yells for him even when a caregiver his present. We are in the process of getting her admitted to a facility, but my problem is this. In the nursing home she was in with respite, they gave her ativan and I know that people with LBD or MSA for that matter react badly to any antipsychotic. But the problem is, if she is yelling out constantly in a skilled care setting they are going to have to quiet her. I don't want her to be given these type of drugs, but again, I can't have her being disruptive. I guess I just want to know what I can do. I've talked the hospice nurse that is taking care of her and have suggested more LBD friendly drugs, but I would like to get this taken care of before she goes into a facility. My dad is so stressed and overwhelmed and so am I. My mom is accusing people of doing things to her etc. My grandma had Alzheimers, but I, as of yet, have only had to deal with mild memory issues with my mom. I know I am doing the right thing by getting her care, but if we dad isn't next to her bed all the time she cries and yells out. Debra in Indiana member of the Shydrager yahoogroups, new member here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 I would appreciate some info direct to my email. It is childsj@.... I have had Fibro for years, and have had some success with changing my diet. Jody Childs Jody's Training Stables Del Dios Peruvians www.DelDiosPeruvians.com ---- Joanne Ford wrote: > Sorry a, I do not know why this is. I do know some of the messages on board get a bit long sometimes. > Â > Anyway, I have said to the other newcomers that if they want me to send them information directly to their email I will do, so I am offering this to you too > Â > I have no idea if this will make any difference, but folk are telling me that when I do send them information direct it is a little easier to understand > Â > Anyway, if you think this will be useful, let me know, my email is joannesford@... > Â > Love Joanne > Â > > > > > > > Subject: New to Group > To: fibromyalgiacured > Date: Thursday, 30 December, 2010, 16:16 > > > Â > > > > Hi! I'm new! Just wondering why the messages have so many spaces and angle thingys in some spaces. The whole digest is so long because of all the spaces. I joined two other groups the same day as this one (I only belong to three) and their messages are single spaced and much easier to read. I'm not complaining - just curious. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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