Re: Carol G: Gerson Therapy

[Guest guest]

Joanne,

I did not say anything the last time you almost bashed vegetarianism. I

kept my mouth shut. Loma University has done a long study, along with

other scientific organizations that people who eat a vegetarian diet

actually live longer than meat eaters. it was not until meat was introduced

into man's diet that we lost the lifespan that we had. We dropped from

hundreds of years to less than 200 and it quickly got worse.

Steve Wyttree has studied over 25 years the violence in society. In his

book he talks about violence increases with the more animal products that

are eaten in that society.

We all have to make our own choices on our diets. To say how you can not

understand how vegetarians can be healthy or get their nutrients just tells

me there is not enough studying done. Modern doctors all push certain types

of eating. It is not to promote health but disease. If we were to eat

organic plant based diets, we would have less toxins in our bodies. The

gov't does not want this. They want to be able to push pills from the drug

companies into our bodies. Eating plant based diets have cured millions of

disease. One can not argue with success.

Another dr to research is Dr Budwig who also cures disease by diet. Again,

plant based. Again, a german dr. She has a 90% cure rate on all types of

cancers. More info in on the yahoogroup called Flaxseedoil2. Lots of email

but lots of good information.

I have people in my life who eat meat. I say nothing to them or knock them

or anything. If I were to start eating meat again, I would eat only the

meat I raised which I knew was clear of hormones or I would eat game meat.

I would never eat meat bought from a store. That is just my choice.

To end on a humorous note, as I am in mental health, there is a new

disorder coined for people who try to eat healthy without preservatives,

gluten, etc. It is called orthorexia nervosa. So on this list, almost

everyone of us are mentally ill due to the new DSM which will be out 2013.

maryruth

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Joanne Ford wrote:

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> I do think that a lot of nonsense was thrown around in the past and I do

> think the media set meat eaters and vegetarians against each other. I still

> am uncertain that a total vegetarian diet is safe, but as I have learned

> over time most folk that eat a lot of veg also do sometimes eat animal

> products too

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> I know I cannot eat a plant based diet because I need the ketosis and it

> is, i am certain, impossible to create a ketogenic diet that is purely

> plant based, it would not contain anywhere near the nutrients we need.

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[Guest guest]

I love this. Thanks for sharing. So now I can add to my list of illnesses

Orthorexia Nervosa. If I tell my husband he will laugh and say, “But I already

knew you were crazy.†For me though, I like being a little crazy. I remember

telling someone once, “You have to be a little crazy just to keep your

sanity.â€

I looked this up on Wikipedia and here is what it says, “Symptoms of

orthorexia nervosa may include obsession with healthy eating, and emaciation

among other things. Orthorexic subjects typically have specific feelings towards

different types of food. The obsession for healthy foods could come from a

number of sources such as family habits, society trends, economic problems,

recent illness, or even just hearing something negative about a food type or

group, which then leads them to ultimately eliminate the food or foods from

their diet. According to the abstract of a 2004 study quoted on PubMed, a

service of the National Institutes of Health, " The analysis of the physiological

characteristics, the social-cultural and the psychological behaviour that

characterises subjects suffering from ON shows a higher prevalence in men and in

those with a lower level of education. "

Seriously, everyone needs to just learn as much as they can about their own

bodies and then make the choice that is right for them. Anything can be taken

too seriously. I chose to eat the way I do because I tested my body’s reaction

to different foods and found that some were making me feel worse and some were

not. By keeping a food diary, I was able to see in print that on the day after I

ate a doughnut that I would wake up stiff and have more pain. It would be the

same if I ate pancakes or macaroni. I began to see a pattern. I did eventually

go to my doctor and ask to be tested for allergies to foods. And it did come

back that Gluten was High on the list. So was oats and yeast. I’m not

fanatical about it though. At my granddaughter’s Birthday party last month

they had cake and I had a couple of bites. No harm done and it made a little

girl happy.

Judy H

To Health Through Knowledge

Started taking Low Dose Naltrexone on January 20, 2009 for

Fibromyalgia, Restless Legs Syndrome, Hashimotos Thyroid and PCOS

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LDNforFibro/

From: ruth Dilling

Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 4:11 PM

To: fibromyalgiacured

Subject: Re: Carol G: Gerson Therapy

To end on a humorous note, as I am in mental health, there is a new

disorder coined for people who try to eat healthy without preservatives,

gluten, etc. It is called orthorexia nervosa. So on this list, almost

everyone of us are mentally ill due to the new DSM which will be out 2013.

maryruth