Re: : Paprika (Nightshades)

[Guest guest]

All I can say is that paprika brings on pain and fibro discomfort.

It affects me but I cannot say that it affects everyone with fibromyalgia. 

I am only passing on items I see affecting my fibro symptoms.

There is a combination of spices that affect me very negatively that

the organic stores use in their ready made foods. It is called Spike.

The fatigue is so extreme that I feel I will faint.

I also discovered that combinations of foods and drinks affect me too.

What I recommend is that the moment you may feel extreme fatigue

coming on look back not only on foods you have eaten but look at

the combination of spices as well.

Hope this helps you all.

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To: fibromyalgiacured

Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2011 10:02 AM

Subject: Re: : Paprika (Nightshades)

 

Hi,

Bee has said nightshade such as green/yellow/red peppers and tomatoes are safe,

and cause healing reactions which we interpret as causing pain. i eat them. Of

course, tobacco, and potatoes are different, and to be avoided. I use paprika,

organic and not sure if I have a problem with it,or the peppers or tomatoes. I

eat more tomatoes, and peppers during the summer. I could try to do without them

and see. The only real pain I have is some in my hands.

C

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> I did not know about the paprika, and was a bit surprized when you mentioned

it, generally I tolerate spices quit well.

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> Having said that I do not eat paprika because I do not like the taste, this

got me thinking, why woud paprika affect somebody with fibro?

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> Anyway, I looked it up and it came up as a nightshade food. You perhaps aready

know but nightshade foods are triggers for pain and highly associated with

arthritis. Potato tomatoes and tobacco are other nightshades and these trigger

my illness so I do my best to stay away from them, but now I will add paprika to

my list because it is in no way important that i have it, and not to have it at

all is clearly a good thing

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> I have juest checked the list above and i am not currently eating any of the

other foods on it so again a good thing I imagine. I do not know 100% that I

have a problem with nightshades but the fact that I cannot tolerate potatoes

tomatoes and tobacco is a pretty good indicator

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> Thanks for letting us know about this. There are some newcomers here that

perhaps need to know about nightshade foods an i know a few folk in my everyday

life who also might benefit from this information

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> Honestly, it is so hard to beleive sometimes that just one food we are still

eating could be the one thing stoppping us getting well

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> All my love joanne

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[Guest guest]

Hi Joanne,

That was very well written. I have found out that more is not better in

treatments,and supplements. That can include spices, as I usually only add 2 or

3 different at the time and rotate them. Bee has said we can gradually include

foods we are intolerant of, starting in small amounts and slowly increase, so

healing reactions are not too extreme. It is like people are intolerant to eggs,

when it is just a healing reaction to the really good nutrition. Some plants are

considered herbs, and some are considered spices. Herbs are different I think in

the amount of healing reactions, and are more traditionally used to heal an

ailment. Bee does say the spices need to be cooked along with the food to help

digest it, and as Joanne says to eat in small amounts. Pain can be toxins moving

around, and good food can get the toxins moving, and in healing mode the toxins

get out, and the pain will not be as bad, and will go away. Non healing pain

stays there, and does not get better.

C

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> hi Siobhan

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> I have missed you a lot lately, I do genuinely hope you are OK

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> I have been thinking about this spice thing today. i don't really know what

the answer is. I am not a spice person, I have a few like licorice and cinnamon

but I am not adventurous

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> I do eat plenty of herbs and occasionally add some spices to stews etc, but

not really very much. I do not know why this is. I dont think it is an

intolerance I think it is just not liking the taste. I find that the milder my

food is the more I enjoy it to me too much spice spoils the meal. So I cannot

really say if I tolerate them well or not

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> What I do know is that a lot of alternative therapies use spices to help folk

get well and generally this is because they aid detoxification. The Indian

therapies I am currently looking at use them very widely.

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> When we detox we have healing reactions and these can include pain. They can

involve rashes and feelings of irritation and so on. As uncomfortable as these

healing reactions are they are necessary for recovery. This is where the dilemma

with this kind of thing is. How does a person know if what they are experiencing

is an intolerance or a healing reaction?

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> Well to be honest with you, their really is not a lack and white answer to

this, much of it is grey, very grey, but this is what I have found in terms of

intolerance and healing

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> I am most definately intolerant to sugar and starch, I think I can tolerate

tiny amounts of lactose and tinly amounts of fructose, but in even moderate

amounts these carb foods can give me problems

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> I am certain that when eating these foods I am experiencing intolerance

because I will get full blown fibro and the illness is far too disabling to

accept

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> Once I remove these foods from my diet, my fibro effectively leaves me. That

is I no longer feel edgy, and under attack. I feel fairly certain I will not

have an attack, and i dont, eccept when i expreience stress or other very toxic

stuff

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> So if i can avoid these foods, stress and certain forms of toxicity I am

basically healed

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> And when i am in ketosis basically this is what happens my fibro goes away

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> But once the fibro 'attacking' has gone, healing reactions begin. These

healing reactions are similar to fibro, in the sense that they occur at the same

points and depending on how much a particular area is affected the healing

reactions are intensified.

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> So for me when i had full blown fibro my gut brain neck hip and knees were the

parts worse affected, when healing reactions occur they are more intense at

these places

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> But my healing reactions are not debilitating, they are just irritating, but

often irritating in a good way too

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> What I mean is I may get pain in a particular area, or a nagging feeling,

or a pulling feeling, or a rashe or an itch etc , but this is always bearable.

And if I leave it and i do not interfer it might intensify but from the

irritation I can actually feel healing going on

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> Now this may take days weeks or months but the more I just let my body deal

with it and i do not interfer then eventually healing does occur and once that

healing has happened the illness is once and for all gone from that particular

place

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> You may recall that a few weeks ago i mentioned burning liquid coming out of

the back of my neck. Boy was that scary. But when i finally calmed down i

realised that liquid was my body detoxing something that had been in my brain

for several years.

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> For several years I had had a sensation of swelling on the right side of my

brain and when  i ate carbs it was this part of the brain where my obsessive

thinking would come from. All the sad bad mad thoughts about the past and so on.

But since doing my therapy work and sticking to the diet the crazy thinking had

mellowed very very much, but the sensation of swelling was still there

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> Since the fluid flooded out of my neck that sensation has not occured. I have

been free of it

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> The hospital wanted to give me antibiotics for this but had they have done so

and had i have taken them then the bacteria my body was using to clear this

toxicity may not have been able to finish the job and chances are that swelling

on my brain could well have come back

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> I am learning how to work with my body and I am learning to recognise the

power of healing it has inside. I am working on supporting this, even though

sometimes the detox process is not always pleasant

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> It is not always pleasant but it is nver crippling. It is never as bad as

fibro. Never!!!!!!

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> Bee allows spices in small amounts but she does not advocate using them in

large doses to enhance healing

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> Some therapists do, and in some circumstance this might be the best route. but

if folk are going to use spices to detox than we fibro folk are I think going to

experience severe healing reactions, simply because fibro folk do experience

healing severely when strong demanding therapies are used

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> This is why i avoid so many promising therapies, even natural therapies. when

i read up on them and i see that the therapy is focusing on one particular thing

and it is actually replacing the immunes system job, that is the remedy is

fixing the problem, and not in fact supporting the immune syatem and enabling

that to sort things out, this is when I see danger for me

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> You see I have fibro, and fibro to my is like a kind altered state, in the

sense that my body, my mind, my heart, my soul, my whole being is very

sensitive. When something occurs that is extreme, ie a bad smell, flashing

light, loud noises etc, my body will experience this more intensely than a

person that does not have fibro. Well it is the same with treatments, my body

experiences treatments, both natural and chemical more extremely than other

people.

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> But when i avoid extreme therapies, and i dont mean extrme as in chemo, i mean

extreme as in asprin LOL, yes even asprin really is too strong for me LOL. what

I am saying is, when I avoid treatments that take over and leave my immune

system redundant, I dont even go there. But if a treatment is very gentle on the

body and it does not interfer very much at all with the immune system and it is

actually designed to support the immune system, then i might consider it.

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> But even with this i have to be fussy.

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> You see some folk claim their treatment is supporting the immune system, and

it might be to some degree but by and large many treatments are not really

supporting the immune system they are interfering, or taking over the role of

the immune system

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> When we use remedies that are interfering, taking over etc, we are not really

gettign well. because the truth definition of wellness,, in my book is when the

immune system itself is doing the curing

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> Now this is why by and large i use foods to get myself well. The food i eat

are well tolerated by the body. And although in some cases even the food i eat

is bringing in some toxicity, because I am careful to ensure that the foods i am

buying are good quality and not overly saturated with toxicity, I know that in

general my body will be able to take what it needs from that food, or in some

cases supplement, and with my body becoming so much better now, if there are

toxicities in the food/supplment, the amount is so negligable I know that my

immune system can handle it

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> The way i am getting well is slow and gentle. there are no get well quick

remedies and only a few kind of slightly extreme things, which i can tell

immediately if it is too much for me

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> everything is gentle, and everything is working with everything else to

support my immune system, to get that stronger and stronger so that over time

it, the immune system is what gets healed, and then when that is strong,

everything else gets sorted by that

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> It is a bit long this email but I really want you to know that if you go the

gentle route, it might take longer but the results will be perminent, and

eventually it is not just a case of getting rid of fibro, the immune system can

become so strong that I will not be getting much else of anything else

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> All my love Joanne

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> To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured >;

" studiosanmiguel@... "

> Sent: Sunday, 4 September 2011, 21:24

> Subject: Re: Re: : Paprika (Nightshades)

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> I cannot abide paprika or cayenne pepper. Thankfully the fashion a few years

ago where every restaurant and cafe sprinkled it all over plates and dishes for

decoration has stopped! used to be so annoying.

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> I have intolerance to lots of spices, especially too much black pepper.

> Also have never been able to eat red green or yellow bell peppers,  even the

smell of them raw or cooked irritates me. It has to be my body telling me to

steer clear!!

> i cannot tolerate chilli in any form it sets my mouth on fire. This amuses

other people no end, they think it is hilarious. Needless to say i don't find it

funny over and over again.

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