Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 Very often question was asked: If anyone got calcified stones out? I have no doubt that many people who are doing cleanse, are getting calcified stones out, suppose they have them there in the first place. The problem is: extremely few people use colander inside toilet bowl to collect all stones. More then just a few people collect floating stones from the toilet bowl, but calcified stones does not float, so chances of catching calcified stone inside toilet bowel are more then poor. This is one story about calcified stones, told by Dusan, friend of mine who started gallstones group. Regards Agnes Here is the original story. ======================================= My grandmother Nada has told me this story. I was teenager, but I still remember it as if she was telling it few years ago. Pictures have been created in my mind, and I could see it all, while she was talking. I still remember most of the stories my grandmother told me. Pictures I was imagining that time are still fresh in my brain. It was happening somewhere in 50’s in Belgrade, where she lived with her two sons, my father and my uncle. That year she was often experiencing sharp and long lasting pain on her right side, and under her rib cage. I think it was winter. Doctor diagnosed gallstones. He suggested fasting: fat-free diet. I guess, surgery was out of question, that time. Yugoslavia was destroyed in the World War II; I doubt they were performing gallbladder surgeries in fifty’s. Even if they were performing those surgeries that time, knowing my grandmother, I really doubt she would dare to undertake surgery. Pain was getting worse, so most people who know her, new how bad she was suffering. Through friends, she came in contact with an old, retired doctor, who gave her recipe written on a small piece of paper. She kept that piece of paper for years, together with her most important papers and documents, and she shared recipe with others who needed it, but eventually she lost it. But, recipe was very simple & easy to remember, so she did not forget it. Gallstones cleansing recipe: _______________________________ Eat only fat-free breakfast the day of cleanse, and then fast. In the evening: squeeze juice from 10 lemons and mix it with 1 cup of olive oil. Drink it. Walk all night. Empty bowels into the pot and look for stones. ________________________________ So, she did it. My father, and his brother (who were teenagers) had to stay awaken all that night. She was so weak, and had so much pain, they had to hold her and walk with her all night. As she explained, pain was so strong some moments, her legs were not holding her. Some time she was just laying on the floor in pain. She was emptying her bowels several times that night and morning. In the morning, they counted over 28 calcified stones of different color, many of them bigger then marble. Stones were as hard as stone. She kept those stones in a plastic beg for years, but eventually, she lost it, when she was moving into another house. She never had gallstones problems again, and she never repeated that cleanse again. I asked my father if he remembers that night, but he doesn't. My grandmother is dead, my uncle is dead, and I am the only person who remembers this story. I am telling it to my kids, and to you, so the story will not be forgotten. Best of health Dusan =================================== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2002 Report Share Posted February 23, 2002 Agnes, If it is possible to get out a 1cm, hard, gb stone (ultrasound shows it as white and floating) please give us some more tips on how to get this stubborn stone out. I have done 6 cleanses now (Dr. Hulga ) and have eliminated over 2,000 softer (cholesterol, or what I believe to be from the liver mostly) stones. I have eliminated tons of sludge, grainy sandy stuff, a few 3mm black (pigment?) stones, etc. BUT, I still have that 1 stone that doesn't come out with flushing. This is also the stone that moves into position and causes colic pain after eating. My primary purpose to flush was to eliminate the pain. I am very grateful for the positive results (and feeling better) that I have gotten from flushing but I still want to eliminate this stone to stop the pain. Questions, if you could please answer... Reading Dusans post is incouraging. Walking around all night is a different way than is written in cleanses. Is it assumed that more drastic measures have to be taken for this type of stone? What could you recommend in my case? More oil? Left side, right side? Walking all night? Crushing with ultrasonic first? Surgery? Note: I don't know if my 'stone' is lighter (floats up) or heavier (sinks). All I know is that it shows up white on ultrasound. It is floating around instead of being fixed to the gb wall. I only have one stone showing there. Please offer some more tips for those of us in here who are suffering with this type of difficult elimination. Thanks. Barry. > > > Very often question was asked: > > If anyone got calcified stones out? > > I have no doubt that many people who are doing cleanse, are getting > calcified stones out, suppose they have them there in the first place. > > The problem is: extremely few people use colander inside toilet bowl to > collect all stones. > > More then just a few people collect floating stones from the toilet bowl, > but calcified stones does not float, so chances of catching calcified stone > inside toilet bowel are more then poor. > > > This is one story about calcified stones, told by Dusan, friend of mine who > started gallstones group. > > > Regards > Agnes > > > > Here is the original story. > > > > ======================================= > My grandmother Nada has told me this story. I was teenager, but I still > remember it as if she was telling it few years ago. Pictures have been > created in my mind, and I could see it all, while she was talking. I still > remember most of the stories my grandmother told me. Pictures I was > imagining that time are still fresh in my brain. > > It was happening somewhere in 50's in Belgrade, where she lived with her > two sons, my father and my uncle. > > That year she was often experiencing sharp and long lasting pain on her > right side, and under her rib cage. I think it was winter. > > Doctor diagnosed gallstones. He suggested fasting: fat-free diet. I guess, > surgery was out of question, that time. Yugoslavia was destroyed in the > World War II; I doubt they were performing gallbladder surgeries in > fifty's. Even if they were performing those surgeries that time, knowing my > grandmother, I really doubt she would dare to undertake surgery. > > > Pain was getting worse, so most people who know her, new how bad she was > suffering. > > Through friends, she came in contact with an old, retired doctor, who gave > her recipe written on a small piece of paper. > > > She kept that piece of paper for years, together with her most important > papers and documents, and she shared recipe with others who needed it, but > eventually she lost it. But, recipe was very simple & easy to remember, so > she did not forget it. > > > > > Gallstones cleansing recipe: > _______________________________ > Eat only fat-free breakfast the day of cleanse, and then fast. > > In the evening: > squeeze juice from 10 lemons > and mix it with 1 cup of olive oil. > > Drink it. > > Walk all night. Empty bowels into the pot and look for stones. > ________________________________ > > > So, she did it. > My father, and his brother (who were teenagers) had to stay awaken all that > night. > > She was so weak, and had so much pain, they had to hold her and walk with > her all night. As she explained, pain was so strong some moments, her legs > were not > holding her. Some time she was just laying on the floor in pain. > > She was emptying her bowels several times that night and morning. > > In the morning, they counted over 28 calcified stones of different color, > many of them bigger then marble. Stones were as hard as stone. > > She kept those stones in a plastic beg for years, but eventually, she lost > it, when she was moving into another house. > > She never had gallstones problems again, and she never repeated that > cleanse again. > > I asked my father if he remembers that night, but he doesn't. > My grandmother is dead, my uncle is dead, and I am the only person who > remembers > this story. > > > I am telling it to my kids, and to you, so the story will not be forgotten. > > Best of health > Dusan > =================================== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2002 Report Share Posted February 23, 2002 agnes@... writes: > In the evening: > squeeze juice from 10 lemons > and mix it with 1 cup of olive oil. > Did it really say 10 lemons? that's not a typo? That's a lot of lemon juice!! And it's interesting that she was told to walk all night when most gb cleanse instructions say to lay down immediately after drinking it. Hmmm....I'm always interested in new variations - maybe I'll give this one a try. I wonder if rebounding would make a difference also!! just thinking out loud.... in health, rachel~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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