Re: Jovian

[Guest guest]

Hi Kim:

I didn't really try to help people all that much other than be a normal

friend. I had a few sponsees who I was scared of, but was too polite to say

no to when they asked me to sponsor them. Also, several years ago, I had a

few girls from the halfway house over for a sleep over party. (Yeah, I know,

it sounds like I'm about 13 years old) As we were falling asleep they started

telling stories of how they would befriend people then rip them off. Steal

their TVs and microwaves and sell them for drug money. I remember being

quite nervous, but too polite to do anything about it. That politeness was

hard to get rid of. Shows me how damaging some early training in my family

was.

Apple

In a message dated 4/2/99 11:20:12 AM, 12-step-freeegroups writes:

<<Hi there. Kim here. On the subject of persons " playing both sides of the

AA/ex-AA fence " , so to speak, I don't know. I could be wrong, but that's

the impression I got. It sort of reminds me of people in AA who come in

and out and in and out and do this sort of " I'm pathetic please help me "

act and then when you try to help them they're all like " You sucker, how

dare you try and change me " thing and get all nasty at you . Ouch.

Yikes.Then when you clue in to their game and go " well, screw it, you're

on your own then " , then they're all like " Oh no ! Wait !Wait! I really

do want help and I really will make an effort this time " just enough to

get you hooked into " helping " (eg- doing all their dirty work for them ,

being their sucker) again, and so on round and round and round and

round, and of course they never really do change, at least not while

they have you to do all the work

for them, and you end up exhausted and depleted, at which point do they

help you? NO! They move on to another victim and so on and so on.

Been there, done that!(Aaargh!!!)(That's turning out to be one of my

favorite new slogans!!!)>>

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