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I need all refferences to studies done on effectiveness of 12 step groups

in alcohol and drug recovery. I need the studies themselves and where to

get them.

Nobody in this state (OR.) is doing anything and i have chosen to take it on.

I dont need bullshit or hate or anger. I just need the studies. Please

respond off list unless you fell it's nessessary. OK so this is a challenge

to get your collective shits together and try to do something rather than

just whine. If you ? my motives, please ask me and I will respond, and if

it makes sence I will follow your advice. I have to tell you that flaming

the Governor is not

productive and I'm not going to do it. If you can put aside your crap so I

can get something done I will do so. I have a reputation for getting things

done so lets get going.

Larry s

President

L & L Drafting and Design Inc.

185 O'Neal Ln

Roseburg, OR

97470

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