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Ron

Since you previously had success with doing the flush, have you done that

again since you've had those symptoms? If so, what were the results and if

not - why not give that a try and see if it helps? (I don't know much about

candida, so I will leave that part for someone else to respond to!)

rachel~

RLSELF@... writes:

> Question for you board members is:

> In the last month I have had reoccurring Gall Bladder pain, bloating,

> stomach cramps, pinching sensations in the abdominal region and

> cramping back pain in the region of the kidneys. No difference in BM

> or Urine. No difference on blood test. No explanation for the pain by

> the doctor. I have had, what feels like, a steady low grade

> Gallbladder attack for 8 days straight. I have to sleep sitting up

> and get gas just from drinking water. Could this be a Candida bloom

> or something? I have never had a Candida problem before so I am

> unsure.

>

> Any guesses or suggestions? I am open for anything to find relief at

> this point. Thanks All.

> Ron

>

>

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Hi Ron,

I found this group after my GB surgery. During the six months prior to surgery,

I increasingly suffered more frequent and more severe attacks. But, they were

always associated within 1hr of eating fat in a meal, so I'm not sure what you

mean by a " steady low grade Gallbladder attack. " Two weeks before my surgery I

did experience pretty much constant gas and bloating (which felt like I had a

grapefruit stuck under my ribs on the right side), and if I ate fat or protein,

it would send me right into a horrible attack.

This is just my opinion, but I don't believe the cholesterol lowering drugs are

good for you. It is my understanding that the reason you had high cholesterol

levels is because your liver is clogged with stones. Also, it is my

understanding that eating the right kinds of fats is very important as well, and

affects cholesterol levels. Have you made any dietary changes? You didn't

mention how often you did the liver cleanse or how successful you were in

eliminating stones, but IMO, the liver cleanse was the best thing you did for

yourself.

Adrienne

ron_self <RLSELF@...> wrote: Hello all.

I have to say it has been some time since I last visited this board.

I have been attack free for over two years thanks in part to this

board. I had high cholesterol and was prescribed Pravocol. I took

that and it reduced my cholesterol drastically. Between the flushes

and the medicine, I stopped having gallbladder attacks.

I now am facing a dilemma. I felt fine until a month ago. To begin

my story, I had to have a root canal done on a molar 3 months ago.

Only composite material wa used. I was given Erythromycin. I stopped

taking the Pravachol as it reacts badly with Erythromycin. When I

told my doctor that I had stopped taking the Pravacol he switched me

onto Lipitor for the cholesterol.

When I had taken Lipitor in a prior year, I had very bad reactions,

body aches, gal bladder attacks ect. I tried taking it for a week a

told the doc that I was not going to take anymore as it was making me

sick.

Question for you board members is:

In the last month I have had reoccurring Gall Bladder pain, bloating,

stomach cramps, pinching sensations in the abdominal region and

cramping back pain in the region of the kidneys. No difference in BM

or Urine. No difference on blood test. No explanation for the pain by

the doctor. I have had, what feels like, a steady low grade

Gallbladder attack for 8 days straight. I have to sleep sitting up

and get gas just from drinking water. Could this be a Candida bloom

or something? I have never had a Candida problem before so I am

unsure.

Any guesses or suggestions? I am open for anything to find relief at

this point. Thanks All.

Ron

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----- Original Message -----

From: " ron_self " <RLSELF@...>

<gallstones >

Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 12:45 AM

Subject: Ongoing Discomfort.

Ron.....castor oil packs over the liver area normalize cholesterol levels.

I've done 1 hour packs to normalize cholesterol, cure ovarian cysts, clear

out the liver and relieve pain. They work wonders. Have you looked up the

potential side effects of the Pravocol and Lipitor? I'm not saying that

you should stop these drugs or ignore your doctor but you will benefit

greatly using the castor oil packs.

http://home.online.no/~dusan/cures/castoroil.html

Betsy

Ron wrote:

> I have to say it has been some time since I last visited this board.

> I have been attack free for over two years thanks in part to this

> board. I had high cholesterol and was prescribed Pravocol. I took

> that and it reduced my cholesterol drastically. Between the flushes

> and the medicine, I stopped having gallbladder attacks.

<snip>

>

> Any guesses or suggestions? I am open for anything to find relief at

> this point. Thanks All.

> Ron

>

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Adrienne,

I appreciate hearing you're response from a " real " person whose had gallbladder

surgery.

Thanks,

Adrienne McLaughlin <adriennelynn1@...> wrote:

Hi Ron,

I found this group after my GB surgery. During the six months prior to surgery,

I increasingly suffered more frequent and more severe attacks. But, they were

always associated within 1hr of eating fat in a meal, so I'm not sure what you

mean by a " steady low grade Gallbladder attack. " Two weeks before my surgery I

did experience pretty much constant gas and bloating (which felt like I had a

grapefruit stuck under my ribs on the right side), and if I ate fat or protein,

it would send me right into a horrible attack.

This is just my opinion, but I don't believe the cholesterol lowering drugs are

good for you. It is my understanding that the reason you had high cholesterol

levels is because your liver is clogged with stones. Also, it is my

understanding that eating the right kinds of fats is very important as well, and

affects cholesterol levels. Have you made any dietary changes? You didn't

mention how often you did the liver cleanse or how successful you were in

eliminating stones, but IMO, the liver cleanse was the best thing you did for

yourself.

Adrienne

ron_self <RLSELF@...> wrote: Hello all.

I have to say it has been some time since I last visited this board.

I have been attack free for over two years thanks in part to this

board. I had high cholesterol and was prescribed Pravocol. I took

that and it reduced my cholesterol drastically. Between the flushes

and the medicine, I stopped having gallbladder attacks.

I now am facing a dilemma. I felt fine until a month ago. To begin

my story, I had to have a root canal done on a molar 3 months ago.

Only composite material wa used. I was given Erythromycin. I stopped

taking the Pravachol as it reacts badly with Erythromycin. When I

told my doctor that I had stopped taking the Pravacol he switched me

onto Lipitor for the cholesterol.

When I had taken Lipitor in a prior year, I had very bad reactions,

body aches, gal bladder attacks ect. I tried taking it for a week a

told the doc that I was not going to take anymore as it was making me

sick.

Question for you board members is:

In the last month I have had reoccurring Gall Bladder pain, bloating,

stomach cramps, pinching sensations in the abdominal region and

cramping back pain in the region of the kidneys. No difference in BM

or Urine. No difference on blood test. No explanation for the pain by

the doctor. I have had, what feels like, a steady low grade

Gallbladder attack for 8 days straight. I have to sleep sitting up

and get gas just from drinking water. Could this be a Candida bloom

or something? I have never had a Candida problem before so I am

unsure.

Any guesses or suggestions? I am open for anything to find relief at

this point. Thanks All.

Ron

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Hi Ron,

Sounds like you should go back to the Pravocol instead of the Lipitor.

Also, since the molar was 3 months ago, can you stop taking the

Erythromycin and just go back on the Pravocol for the cholesterol

problem? Sounds like that would almost get you back to pain-free.

Since you are having gb bloating, pain, etc. have you decided to

flush a few times again? The liver/gb cleansing sites that I have

read encourage maintanance flushing even after the symptoms are gone.

Once a year, twice a year, every three months ; just to keep your

liver/gb and ducts clear of any new forming sludge, crystals, or

small stones. Maybe that will get you back on track.

Good luck and please tell us what you do.

Be Healthy.

Barry.

> Hello all.

>

> I have to say it has been some time since I last visited this

board.

> I have been attack free for over two years thanks in part to this

> board. I had high cholesterol and was prescribed Pravocol. I took

> that and it reduced my cholesterol drastically. Between the flushes

> and the medicine, I stopped having gallbladder attacks.

>

> I now am facing a dilemma. I felt fine until a month ago. To begin

> my story, I had to have a root canal done on a molar 3 months ago.

> Only composite material wa used. I was given Erythromycin. I

stopped

> taking the Pravachol as it reacts badly with Erythromycin. When I

> told my doctor that I had stopped taking the Pravacol he switched

me

> onto Lipitor for the cholesterol.

>

> When I had taken Lipitor in a prior year, I had very bad reactions,

> body aches, gal bladder attacks ect. I tried taking it for a week a

> told the doc that I was not going to take anymore as it was making

me

> sick.

>

> Question for you board members is:

> In the last month I have had reoccurring Gall Bladder pain,

bloating,

> stomach cramps, pinching sensations in the abdominal region and

> cramping back pain in the region of the kidneys. No difference in

BM

> or Urine. No difference on blood test. No explanation for the pain

by

> the doctor. I have had, what feels like, a steady low grade

> Gallbladder attack for 8 days straight. I have to sleep sitting up

> and get gas just from drinking water. Could this be a Candida bloom

> or something? I have never had a Candida problem before so I am

> unsure.

>

> Any guesses or suggestions? I am open for anything to find relief

at

> this point. Thanks All.

> Ron

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