Guest guest Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Hi Joanne, Seems Bee said we can get Omega 6 from other sources in the diet besides olive oil. I don't think a teaspoons day is too much, but may not be necessary anyway. I quit bothering with it. bee keeps changing things anyway. Maybe you can just ask her again. C. > > > > Wow Lynn > >  > > More of your messages have just come through, this is great. from now on I am certain your other messages will come though > >  > > i get a bit confused with this nightshade stuff. I know that when I was very very ill these foods defiantely affected me badly, but since my health has been better I have had tiny amounts and seemed to have been OK. having said that I only eat 15g of carbs per day so even when I do eat them they are very very tiny amounts > >  > > Right now my health is not so great. I have not had a flare but I am not at all my normal self. I will be keeping my carbs low anyway, but now you have reminded me of this I will avoid these too at least for now > >  > > To be honest there is not much in the way of carbohydrate foods I feel great with. All starch food including bread, potatoes, corn, rice etc are no good for me, and I do not do well with sugar or fructose. The only sweet thing I ever eat is stevia and I am even skimpy with that, and the ony frute I eat is lemon juice and again very sparingly. Lactose from pasturised triggers my illness but I 'think' I am Ok with unpastured cheese. I say I 'think' because it is not triggering my illness but I do struggle to loose weight when I eat it so all is not well there either really is it > >  > > anyway given that I am sliding downwards, I have decided to return to just low starch vegetables, and no other carbs for a while. As long as I work on my other stuff, bringing good things other than food into my life I should be OK soon > >  > > I do need to deal with these emotional issues. Its all a bit much right now but having this board is a life saver > >  > > All my love Joanne > > > > From: southphillylily <southphillylily@> > > To: fibromyalgiacured > > Sent: Tuesday, 6 September 2011, 18:49 > > Subject: Paprika, nightshades, solanine, nervous system....... > > > > > >  > > From: > > http://www.worldshealthiestfoods.org/genpage.php?tname=george & dbid=62 > > > > http://chemweb.calpoly.edu/cbailey/377/PapersF2000// > > > > http://chronicfatigue.about.com/b/2010/04/25/nightshade-vegetables-fibro\ > > myalgiachronic-fatigue-syndrome.htm > > > > Potatoes, tomatoes, sweet and hot peppers, eggplant, tomatillos, > > tamarios, pepinos, pimentos, paprika, cayenne, and Tabasco sauce are > > classified as nightshade foods. > > > > A particular group of substances in these foods, called alkaloids, can > > impact nerve-muscle function and digestive function in animals and > > humans, and may also be able to compromise joint function. > > > > Interesting facts about Solanine > > > > Tomatoes are prized by humans for their cancer-fighting antioxidants. > > People eat these to gain their benefits and may try to extend this > > benefit to their pets. A cat can be fatally poisoned by just 100g of > > ripe tomato(11)! that someone carelessly left out or if unknowing of the > > danger, tries to feed their animal. > > > > Even though cats will not normally eat tomatoes, bored animals or young > > animals will. This cat was in the hospital for two weeks, excessively > > vomiting, continuous diarrhea, dehydration, and the inability to move. > > The cat barely recovered even after such a small dose. > > > > Potato farmers harvest their crop before ripening to prevent the spread > > of viruses. The green vines are often used as animal feed. Yet if cattle > > or pigs are fed the peeling of unripe or spoiled potatoes, the poisoning > > and death rates will increase dramatically. This is because the toxins > > more concentrated in the fruit (or the reproductive portion of the > > plant, such as the eye of the potato). > > > > In the 1960's, the search for a new potato was completed. The United > > States has interested in producing a potato strictly for French fry > > production. Lenape was an excellent candidate. This crossbred potato had > > all the qualities of a great French fry potato. After commercial > > production, it was found that Lenape had very high levels of Solanine. > > Fourteen mg/100g causes a bitter taste and above twenty mg/100g causes a > > burning in the mouth and throat. Lenape was found to have 30mg/100g. > > This created a new standard that all potatoes had to be tested for > > levels of Solanine prior to production (2). > > > > Your mom was right; don't eat green potatoes or old potatoes! Exposure > > to light or stress (or even aging) causes transformation of a potato's > > amyloplasts to chloroplasts, followed by the synthesis of the green > > pigment, chlorophyll. Light, stress, and aging also cause the potato to > > produce chaconine and Solanine. The appearance of chlorophyll is thus a > > warning that something is wrong with the potato. About 30% to 80%of the > > glycoalkaloid content of a potato is in its peel with the remainder in > > the flesh of the tuber(15). And don't think that just cooking the green > > potato will deactivate the toxin. Boiling, microwaving, or freezing as > > no effect on the toxin. Deep-frying (my favorite) has been shown to > > reduce the levels of toxin (15). > > > > Points to Ponder.... > > > > The Nightshade family members make two distinctly different categories > > of toxins. No one plant has both kinds of toxins since the toxins have > > opposite effects. The Atropine side of the family makes cholinergic > > antagonists, causing depression of the parasympathetic system, while the > > Solanine producers make cholinesterase inhibitors, causing stimulation > > of the parasympathetic branch of the central nervous system. > > > > One question remains; why does the plant produce these toxins in the > > first place? These toxins could be serving as a defense mechanism. Since > > the alkaloids cause the plant to be bitter tasting and the effects of > > low dose consumption are uncomfortable to an animal, these poisons could > > prevent the plants from being grazed on and destroyed. They could also > > serve as a fungicide or an insecticide to prevent damage to the plant. > > > > The bottom line is that some people have a problem with nightshades > > while others don't, just like some people have a problem with sugar, > > caffeine, alcohol or gluten that others don't. The only way to know for > > sure how foods impact your symptoms is to experiment and pay close > > attention. One great tool for that is the elimination diet, and it also > > helps if you keep a detailed food/symptom diary. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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