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Hi Joanne,

Seems Bee said we can get Omega 6 from other sources in the diet besides olive

oil. I don't think a teaspoons day is too much, but may not be necessary anyway.

I quit bothering with it. bee keeps changing things anyway. Maybe you can just

ask her again.

C.

> >

> > Wow Lynn

> >  

> > More of your messages have just come through, this is great. from now on I

am certain your other messages will come though

> >  

> > i get a bit confused with this nightshade stuff. I know that when I was very

very ill these foods defiantely affected me badly, but since my health has been

better I have had tiny amounts and seemed to have been OK. having said that I

only eat 15g of carbs per day so even when I do eat them they are very very tiny

amounts

> >  

> > Right now my health is not so great. I have not had a flare but I am not at

all my normal self. I will be keeping my carbs low anyway, but now you have

reminded me of this I will avoid these too at least for now

> >  

> > To be honest there is not much in the way of carbohydrate foods I feel great

with. All starch food including bread, potatoes, corn, rice etc are no good for

me, and I do not do well with sugar or fructose. The only sweet thing I ever eat

is stevia and I am even skimpy with that, and the ony frute I eat is lemon juice

and again very sparingly. Lactose from pasturised triggers my illness but I

'think' I am Ok with unpastured cheese. I say I 'think' because it is not

triggering my illness but I do struggle to loose weight when I eat it so all is

not well there either really is it

> >  

> > anyway given that I am sliding downwards, I have decided to return to just

low starch vegetables, and no other carbs for a while. As long as I work on my

other stuff, bringing good things other than food into my life I should be OK

soon

> >  

> > I do need to deal with these emotional issues. Its all a bit much right now

but having this board is a life saver

> >  

> > All my love Joanne

> >

> > From: southphillylily <southphillylily@>

> > To: fibromyalgiacured

> > Sent: Tuesday, 6 September 2011, 18:49

> > Subject: Paprika, nightshades, solanine, nervous

system.......

> >

> >

> >  

> > From:

> > http://www.worldshealthiestfoods.org/genpage.php?tname=george & dbid=62

> >

> > http://chemweb.calpoly.edu/cbailey/377/PapersF2000//

> >

> > http://chronicfatigue.about.com/b/2010/04/25/nightshade-vegetables-fibro\

> > myalgiachronic-fatigue-syndrome.htm

> >

> > Potatoes, tomatoes, sweet and hot peppers, eggplant, tomatillos,

> > tamarios, pepinos, pimentos, paprika, cayenne, and Tabasco sauce are

> > classified as nightshade foods.

> >

> > A particular group of substances in these foods, called alkaloids, can

> > impact nerve-muscle function and digestive function in animals and

> > humans, and may also be able to compromise joint function.

> >

> > Interesting facts about Solanine

> >

> > Tomatoes are prized by humans for their cancer-fighting antioxidants.

> > People eat these to gain their benefits and may try to extend this

> > benefit to their pets. A cat can be fatally poisoned by just 100g of

> > ripe tomato(11)! that someone carelessly left out or if unknowing of the

> > danger, tries to feed their animal.

> >

> > Even though cats will not normally eat tomatoes, bored animals or young

> > animals will. This cat was in the hospital for two weeks, excessively

> > vomiting, continuous diarrhea, dehydration, and the inability to move.

> > The cat barely recovered even after such a small dose.

> >

> > Potato farmers harvest their crop before ripening to prevent the spread

> > of viruses. The green vines are often used as animal feed. Yet if cattle

> > or pigs are fed the peeling of unripe or spoiled potatoes, the poisoning

> > and death rates will increase dramatically. This is because the toxins

> > more concentrated in the fruit (or the reproductive portion of the

> > plant, such as the eye of the potato).

> >

> > In the 1960's, the search for a new potato was completed. The United

> > States has interested in producing a potato strictly for French fry

> > production. Lenape was an excellent candidate. This crossbred potato had

> > all the qualities of a great French fry potato. After commercial

> > production, it was found that Lenape had very high levels of Solanine.

> > Fourteen mg/100g causes a bitter taste and above twenty mg/100g causes a

> > burning in the mouth and throat. Lenape was found to have 30mg/100g.

> > This created a new standard that all potatoes had to be tested for

> > levels of Solanine prior to production (2).

> >

> > Your mom was right; don't eat green potatoes or old potatoes! Exposure

> > to light or stress (or even aging) causes transformation of a potato's

> > amyloplasts to chloroplasts, followed by the synthesis of the green

> > pigment, chlorophyll. Light, stress, and aging also cause the potato to

> > produce chaconine and Solanine. The appearance of chlorophyll is thus a

> > warning that something is wrong with the potato. About 30% to 80%of the

> > glycoalkaloid content of a potato is in its peel with the remainder in

> > the flesh of the tuber(15). And don't think that just cooking the green

> > potato will deactivate the toxin. Boiling, microwaving, or freezing as

> > no effect on the toxin. Deep-frying (my favorite) has been shown to

> > reduce the levels of toxin (15).

> >

> > Points to Ponder....

> >

> > The Nightshade family members make two distinctly different categories

> > of toxins. No one plant has both kinds of toxins since the toxins have

> > opposite effects. The Atropine side of the family makes cholinergic

> > antagonists, causing depression of the parasympathetic system, while the

> > Solanine producers make cholinesterase inhibitors, causing stimulation

> > of the parasympathetic branch of the central nervous system.

> >

> > One question remains; why does the plant produce these toxins in the

> > first place? These toxins could be serving as a defense mechanism. Since

> > the alkaloids cause the plant to be bitter tasting and the effects of

> > low dose consumption are uncomfortable to an animal, these poisons could

> > prevent the plants from being grazed on and destroyed. They could also

> > serve as a fungicide or an insecticide to prevent damage to the plant.

> >

> > The bottom line is that some people have a problem with nightshades

> > while others don't, just like some people have a problem with sugar,

> > caffeine, alcohol or gluten that others don't. The only way to know for

> > sure how foods impact your symptoms is to experiment and pay close

> > attention. One great tool for that is the elimination diet, and it also

> > helps if you keep a detailed food/symptom diary.

> >

> >

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