Re: Carol: biblical references

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Joanne and Carol,

Did you get the email containing sites to Bible discoveries?

Please send word. I sent this half hour ago. This will be the

third note I send.

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To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured >

Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 3:48 PM

Subject: Re: Carol: biblical references

 

Carol

 

I know the Candida diet mentioned is not exactly the same as Bees but it is

similar and the foods mentioned here are allowed on Bees diet when we are more

healthy. And the foods mentioned here are really at the cut off point as far as

Bee will tell us in regards to what is REAL food for humans

 

I hope I am making sense, but briefly, the main foods of the bible are animal

fat (this is regarded as extremely holy), sea sal meat including all offal,

eggs, cheese (made from raw milk remember), and milk, again RAW, goats milk

products were also mentioned as being 'special' butter (in other words not

margarine), olive oil (regarded as extremely healing), fish and fish oil, many

fruits and vegetables many of which are FERMENTED (and not with modern vinegar)

in bible times they fermented with cider vinegar and sea salt, which is not just

on Bees diet but on many other healing diets, Ecology Diet, GAPs etc. Herbs and

spices, and over and over herbs and spices are mentioned as healing foods, and

many stories of the saints include herbs for healing. I know grains are allowed

in the bible, but again these were fermented and many loaves where made from

seeds, like Eziekel bread (not GM wheat as today!!!!) I have probably missed

something out because I am

rushing but the above is all I eat, little else other than these foods mentioned

above. I limit my fruit, besides coconut and lemon the only other fruit I have

is fermented fruit when I take the Eucharist wine, and I have no grains except

when i take the Eucarist bread.

 

This will all make more sense as time goes on but here is an interesting

article. The candida diet refered to here is not Bees but is very similar and we

can eat most of the foods mentioned here and as we get more healthy we are

allowed to eat all of them

 http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Passover-Feast-Controls-Candida-Albican-Yeast & id\

=6215094

 

Also the underground church the early church continued to celebrate the passover

for many years

 

http://www.triumphpro.com/pas-early-church.htm

 

Love joanne

 

 

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To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured >

Sent: Thursday, 29 September 2011, 20:34

Subject: Re: : Tobit

 

I am interested in this too!!!!

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To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured >

Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 3:27 PM

Subject: Re: : Tobit

 

There are many things in this Godly Book of Wisdom that can teach us ordinary

things in ordinary life. We just need to read it as a guide book rather than a

lofty

novel of unreachable understanding.

When we really begin to read through it...well, I'll send you some videos that

co relate

to the some of the history in the Bible. I use these in my classes. I will send

them in your

email.

M

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To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured >

Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 2:05 PM

Subject: Re: : Tobit

 

 

I had not ever heard of this story but your message has had me intregued so I

have looked it up and could not put it down

 

Found these two articles about it but there is actually a very lot across the

net

 

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/resource.php?n=1248

 

 

there is a very lot, a very lot indeed to be taken from this and I am sure that

further reading will reveal more to me

 

This with the fish is pretty amazing, particularly when it is refering to the

organs of the fish. Studies of wolves have shown that the dominant wolf in the

pack always gets the organs and will then eat some of the meat and bones, and

the others will then share what is left. It is claimed by the paleo gang organs

are the most nutritious part of the animal. And Jan Kwasneiwski (Optimal Diet)

tells us to eat certain organs to heal specific illnesses.

 

I like the bit about demons being found in the 'worldiness' or as I say to my

children, the city. Tobit lived outside his city which in them days would have

been much milder than Eygpt, a major power house, but still Tobit lived away. I

have moved away from the town and I can tell you just doing that brought my

stress levels down by half. We still have some problems here, some pollution,

problems finding great food, etc, but the pace is so so much better for my

health

 

I have also noticed when looking at our family tree that those who lived most

closely to the town centres had the worse health and died younger too

 

Anyway, I will get back to reading this book because it is talking my language

 

thank you

 

Love Joanne

 

 

 

 

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To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured >

Sent: Thursday, 29 September 2011, 15:10

Subject: joanne

 

Yes, Joanne, if we read throughout the Bible we can see diets and types of

healings. In Tobit(one of my favorites) is filled with

interesting types of healing that take place. Raphael is mentioned many times,

he is considered the archangel of healing. Each time

I get sick, I remember Tobit, and begin a fish regimen. Chapter 6 reveals fish

curing properties. Scientists are looking at this

particular fish that is only found in the Tigris for its curing properties. Now

you who are familiar with the Bible can point out so

much more. This is why I love teaching about our Faith. Each time I say

something and the children go 'huh?', I give them the scripture

verse and say,'Don't look at me, read the Bible...here check book...'  God is

the author of science. 

I have had an interesting week so far am doing okay. I should start the

glutomine soon...just looking at it at the moment. I get a bit

'chicken' before  beginning a new remedy. We shall see, I'll let you know what

happens.

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To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured >

Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:52 AM

Subject: Re: Carol: I have had a better day today

 

This is really great Joanne.  I hope you continue onward.

I know how it feels to have a family like yours.  It is so hard to handle

sometimes.  What I learned to do, I don't know if it is healthy, is I play a

mind game with myself.  When I hear them speaking, I act like I have never met

them and their words bounce off of me.  I hear them and answer questions but

have no reactions,  I don't let them enter my soul.  That way I can love them.

Sometimes this doesn't work though.   I then except what ever request this

person may have and jump right to it.  Then it is over with and I can robot

on.  It does make me want to move out of state sometimes, lol.

You might could move and take your dad with you, lol

My birthday was Tuesday and last night I ate 2 pieces of cake.  This morning I

have a migraine.  I have had the baby all week too.  So I probably won't be

on  here much today.  I shouldn't of had the cake.

Take care,

Carol

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To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured >

Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 3:26 PM

Subject: Carol: I have had a better day today

 

Carol

 

I finally got to church and I went out today with my church friends, the weather

was great, it is like mid sommer here in England and I kinda felt like I was on

my holidays.

 

Although we do not go out together much when we do we are all so amazed at how

like minded we are, we chatted about a lot of stuff and I got a chance to air a

bit of my current sadness, which is only now showing, I am far less intense

than I have been lately

 

What was really funny was one of my closest friends (she knows I am on the diet

but she does not know about the spiritual things relating to it, and she did not

ask me this because I am on the diet, she just asked me) she said you know in

the bible when Jesus releases that child of the dumb spirit, in some bibles

they call it a demon, I dont know about that how can it be a demon when it is

just a dumb spirit? Being dumb is not demonic, it is easy enough for somebody

spiritual to help a person who cannot speak to speak, I do not believe not being

able to talk is demonic.

 

I said to her are you talking about the healing in Mark where Jesus says this

kind can only come out by prayer and fasting, and I then pointed to everybodies

plates. They were all eating cakes biscuits etc, and I, as usual when I am with

them just had a cup of tea

 

She clicked immediately and said yes yes, it only comes out by prayer and

fasting. what is it you are saying Joanne

 

I said, you know I water fast sometimes and you have heard me say I cannot eat

bread biscuits cakes and all that. She said yes. Well I said if I eat these

foods here that you all eat my mind will change and I will become very

overwhelmed with sadness. It is a strange sadness because it is not a sadness

like the sadness I shared earlier (meaning my current load of balony LOL). I

said it is a crippling sadness, one where I cannot walk, I cannot hold my bowel,

I cannot hold my bladder, my world is so terrible. Whereas right now you look at

me and my eyes are clear and you see Joanne devoted spirit, vibrant soul,

etc this is not the person I become when I eat those foods.

 

When I eat those foods another Joanne appears the body Joanne. It is a

nightmare where I can see no joy, no peace, no release. Everything is terribly

hard and I do not feel spiritual at all. I feel very dead inside, I feel so very

lost

 

I cry out to God but I feel like He cannot hear me and inside I am all shaky

and lonely. I have no power over this and I feel like it will never end. If I

persist with those foods, if I just keep eating them I can wind up in a very

very dark pit. It is not good

 

If I do do this, which of course you know I never do now, but back in the early

days I did still return to the foods, and other stuff too like cigarettes,

medication and all this stuff, but now I am able to resist and I do not return

to any of it. But for arguments sake lets say if I did return to the foods I

will in a very short time slide and slide and slide back into that madness and

everything will seem very bleak and if I really go right down I will feel

like not only have I lost God but lost myself too. I will feel like I have no

spirit, no soul no nothing

 

Oh no, said my other friend that was listening

 

I turned and said, you know where the bible said that on many occasion the evil

spirit had become more violent throwing the man in the fire and so on, this is

how it is when I attempt to fast. As bad as it is normally, when I try to fast

it is ten times more violent, 10 times more scary, 10 times more hopeless, and

with every moment up until ketosis( which I briefly explained scietifically) it

becomes more and more intense. So much so that moments before I enter ketosis I

will feel like I am about to die.

 

I told them about the past when I was convinced that I would die because all

this was so hard (remember back then I was trying to achieve a lot of this on my

own, it was only when told me about the higher fat being more appropriate

than the protein etc that I started finding all this much easier), but anyay,

when I did all this in the early days the intesity of the illness was terrible I

would fall to the floor thinking I would die, I said the bible says that at the

very moment the evil spirit leaves the boy the boy falls to the floor as if

dead. Yes, I said this is how it used to be for me, I would fall and say I

cannot stand this, and right at the minute I said this the shaking and crazy

crazy intense feelings I was suffering just shriveled up (I pointed to my head

where I have my troubles) and right there it feels like it just flies out of me

 

And all of a sudden (as ketosis hits and GABA hits, I explained)

the crazy pain and disability just leaves me and I am as you see me now. I

said I could explain this scientifically or spiritually I have a grasp of both

but what has really impacted me is not the theories but the reality of all the

healings I have seen when people with many different illnesses do this kind of

thing and get well. It has made me see that all illness is at least at some

level from the deviland more amazingly all illness can be relieved at least at

some level by prayer and fasting

 

Oh no, said one of my friends I could not deal with the devel like that Joanne,

are you not terribly scared. No, I said and laughed, I am just overjoyed that

this terribly terribly bad bad bad illness of mine can be healed in this way.

what more proof do I need that Jesus loves me.

 

My friend was very perplexed, but not me, I do not see the devil in this any

more than I do in any affliction but I certainly see my Lord in this, Amen Amen

said the friend that asked me about the demonic thing in the first place,

she said, now I see exactly what you have been saying for a long time. I smiled

knowingly. but inside I was thinking I really do wish you did know what this is

like, there really is nothing more enlightening than this, nothing more

comforting, nothing more special, it is a wonderful wonderful thing to know how

much I am blessed.

 

Love Joanne   

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To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured >

Sent: Tuesday, 27 September 2011, 18:32

Subject: Re: new

 

Hi Jani,

I was a silent member for a while also, lol.   I was diagnosed the same as you

and was on a lot of meds through the years, then they added PTSD.  

I got so tired of being sick and on so much medicine.  Then I found this

place.  I read Bee's supplement list and started them.  Within a month I no

longer needed all the meds, needed no naps, and got up and did things I wasn't

able to do in four years.

Some things I still have to deal with but, they are normal things.  Like life,

lol. 

I think what started all mine was the type of repetitive work I use to do, then

a promotion that was more than I could handle but, I did it anyway, car

accident, then cancer.

I keep telling myself that I am still here and just help others and let go of

the past.  I think my mind likes to torture my heart, lol.

It is really great to meet you and I look forward to new friendships.

Have a great day!!!

Carol B.

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To: fibromyalgiacured

Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 12:53 PM

Subject: Re: new

 

Hi, I have belonged to this group for awhile, but have not posted or really

participated. I developed Fibro and Chronic Myofascial pain following a serious

car accident. My specialist has had me on all kinds of meds, most of which I had

allergic reactions. I have had physical therapy numerous times but it is only a

temporary fix.I am trying to read all of these posts... Anyway, I live in Ohio,

kids are grown, have two grandkids, work with dog rescue but am basically

disabled...Jani

Jani only a temporary fix.

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