Re: Names

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Good question Sue.

Lori

Re: Names

Kandie,

I think it's wonderful how you named ! Did you keep in touch at all

with his birth mom?

Sue

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In a message dated 3/28/02 6:53:48 AM Pacific Standard Time,

ajhelmuth@... writes:

<< I think that is beautiful. What a sweet way to remember his birth mother.

>>

thanks. :-)

How did you talk to about her and the adoption? How much do you

think he understands? Just curious.

>>

I started talking to him about adoption and his personal story when he was

about 2 years old. I started talking and explaining his history very lightly

to him when he was an infant, because strangers would stare at us and even

ask me outright if he were mine etc. (some VERY rude people are out there)

But when he was about 4.5 he started noticing there was something different

about me and him--our skin. I recall being in the grocery store one day when

there was about a million African American people shopping too and he was

struck by the skin on our necks being different. He kept pointing to my neck

skin and saying " huh? " and then pointing to his neck skin and saying " huh? "

I decided to use that interesting circumstance to teach all the people at the

store. It worked! It didn't really get through to , but it worked on

the rest of them I think!

Now, at 9 years old I thought he thouroughly understood the idea.....but at

least today that is not the case. He had no clue about adoption when I just

asked him.

I don't know how much he understands. I know he understands that we are his

parents. He knows we love him and care for him .

I guess that is the most important part of adoption anyway, right?

kandie

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In a message dated 3/28/02 7:55:12 AM Pacific Standard Time,

ajhelmuth@... writes:

<< is a very, very lucky boy to have you for a mom!

>>

Awe, Thanks!

I'm very very lucky to have him for a son, too!

kandie

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This sounds familiar... there were other s at school

but most of them were boys. It still wasn't common.

was going to be Annelies Jasmine, we both thought it was so

pretty, but my SIL is Elise and we thought the two of them

would end up being confused, being very close in age. So we

argued over another fifty names. , neither of us

LOVED, but it was the only name we both liked.

Jasmine didn't sound right so she was going to be

Eliza after my middle name... then Ebony, except the

neighbour called her daughter Ebony when I was pregnant...

another fight / compromise gave us . And

suits her, because it's a no-nonsense strong name for a kid

with a will of iron who is not at all sugar and spice and

pink ribbons )

We picked out Aidan for our first, who turned out to

be . So we were sick of that and changed it to

Aidan, but then HE insisted that be named after him,

so he is . has never known him as he

skipped out when Josh was 9 months old. I even tried to get

his middle name changed when I legally changed his surname

to mine... but the judge said there was " no need to tamper

with Christian names " and mind you Josh didn't even know

what his middle name was! Ah well. is an incredibly

easygoing kid. In the Bible, was a pretty strong guy

who was a survivor. I went into labor at 33 weeks with

, but he stayed put until his time was up, and was

totally cool about everything since.

I lost our third child to a miscarriage at six weeks. I had

already chosen the names Brody Jordan and Chelsea Reagan.

God knew what He was doing when He called bubby home though.

A little sad, but I wasn't ready, Daddy had just left, and

in the end we are all better off for it.

I am really enjoying reading the stories behind the names.

Thanks for sharing, everyone )

in Sydney, Australia

Mum to , 6yo AS ADHD, and , 5yo mild hearing

loss

Re: Names

> I should add that when I was going to school (HS) There

were 5

's. We were all in the same classes. When the

teacher would

call " " we would all answer. I hated that. Anyway

that is why

I wanted my children to have original names.>>

Isn't it funny how your perspective affects things like

this? All

through school there was not one soul who had my name...most

people

couldn't even say it right--I went through the entire ninth

grade

with my ENGLISH teacher calling me " Roh-eee-nuh " . Jeekers.

I hated

that everyone else had " normal " names except me...

SO, my kids are , Elaine, , and ...all

incredibly " typical " names...but names that mean something

special

because they honor different people in mine or my husband's

family.

Raena

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OK Tuna, here are ours:

Bethany was named for my sister and my mother. My sister 's

middle name is Beth and my mom's name is Jean. Cameron did not really like

this choice. I had to cry and promise to let him name the next one in order

for him to agree to Bethany's name.

So, then came Kepler . We did not know ahead of time that we were

having a boy. Cam told me that he had picked out the name Kepler for a boy,

but I was sure I was having another girl, so I didn't really mind. (He

picked Abigail for a girl, which I liked.) Well, low and behold, I had a

BOY! So, Kepler it was. It seemed perfect once we used it. Kepler is

named for Johannes Kepler, a 16th century

physicist/mathematician/astronomer. He was a contemporary of Galileo.

Kepler's Laws are the laws of planetary motion (things that spin, lol). He

also developed an interesting theory on how classical music is based on the

movements of the planets. He did lots of other interesting things too, but

those are the ones I remember off the top of my head. Kep's middle name

is for Cam's dad.

So, there it is. If we have another one, it will be my turn to name it.

LOL. Elena for a girl or for a boy.

Amy H--in Michigan

Kepler 4 1/2 ASD and Bethany 6 NT

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Sue,

Cameron's middle name is Everett. I like that too!

Amy H--in Michigan

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Kandie,

I think that is beautiful. What a sweet way to remember his birth mother.

How did you talk to about her and the adoption? How much do you

think he understands? Just curious.

Amy H--in Michigan

Kepler 4 1/2 ASD and Bethany 6 NT

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>

>So there you have it the origins of my childrens names. I should add that

>when I was going to school (HS) There were 5 's. We were all in the

>same classes. When the teacher would call " " we would all answer. I

>hated that. Anyway that is why I wanted my children to have original

>names. That and I wanted them to be unforgetable!

I had the same problem! There were always too many Amy's. I love your

kids names Chris. I think they are beautiful and I love the way you picked

them!

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I have a ton of emails I need to respond to, but I

could not resist answering this one before I left for

work.

Lee came about because is the only

name my dh would agree to. Lee is from my little

sister who died while I was preg with . Leigh

was her middle name and we choose to honor her memory

by naming after her.

, we just liked , it is from the Bible

and is dh's middle name.

le was named by my mom. She was named

in honor of my grandmother's grandmother. When

my grandmother was small her mom died and her grandmom

raised her. We were going to call her le and

actually did for a short time. I don't remember when

we started using her first name, she was probably a

few months old. called her " little miss

america " it was so cute, now he just calls her " brat " .

Ginger

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>From: kandiedem@...

>I started talking to him about adoption and his personal story when he was

>about 2 years old. I started talking and explaining his history very

>lightly

>to him when he was an infant, because strangers would stare at us and even

>ask me outright if he were mine etc. (some VERY rude people are out there)

Ugh. I know. My sister's kids are biracial and people always used to ask

her if they were adopted!

>

>But when he was about 4.5 he started noticing there was something different

>about me and him--our skin. I recall being in the grocery store one day

>when

>there was about a million African American people shopping too and he was

>struck by the skin on our necks being different. He kept pointing to my

>neck

>skin and saying " huh? " and then pointing to his neck skin and saying " huh? "

>I decided to use that interesting circumstance to teach all the people at

>the

>store. It worked! It didn't really get through to , but it worked

>on

>the rest of them I think!

That's great that you were able to use that moment to help educate other

people.

>

>Now, at 9 years old I thought he thouroughly understood the idea.....but at

>least today that is not the case. He had no clue about adoption when I

>just

>asked him

>

>I don't know how much he understands. I know he understands that we are

>his

>parents. He knows we love him and care for him .

>I guess that is the most important part of adoption anyway, right?

You are exactly right! That's what he needs to know and the rest probably

just doesn't matter to him so much so he's not keeping the information handy

in his brain. is a very, very lucky boy to have you for a mom!

Amy H--in Michigan

Kepler 4 1/2 ASD and Bethany 6 NT

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> so, it's like ray-na, right?>>

Right...someone musta taught you basic phonics! You'd be amazed at

what folks come up with...

Raena

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In a message dated 3/28/02 1:32:54 PM Pacific Standard Time,

mommys2rubies@... writes:

<< and another neighbor asked if she would

have an accent..at the time..Tara was FOUR MONTHS

old..some people are idiots. >>

Yes, brings out the idiocy in some people too....

When he was born my cousin said " It'll be neat to hear him talk. I wonderf

what will happen to his accent? "

I just looked amazed at him. I still can't believe how stupid people can be.

:-P

kandie

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My best friend in high school was Dyan. So many people mangled that simple

little four letter name. She often got called Dwayne. Drove her nuts.

Tuna

Re: Names

> so, it's like ray-na, right?>>

Right...someone musta taught you basic phonics! You'd be amazed at

what folks come up with...

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> BOY! So, Kepler it was. It seemed perfect once we used it. Kepler is

> named for Johannes Kepler, a 16th century

> physicist/mathematician/astronomer. He was a contemporary of Galileo.

> Kepler's Laws are the laws of planetary motion (things that spin, lol).

He

WOW.

And physics, math, astronomy are ALL things Kep can more than likely do one

day!

Coincidence?

Johannes sounds rather.... well, spectrumy LOL!

Grace

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We couldn't decide on a name for the longest time... I think until month 7

or so.

And to come up with two....... well, it's a good thing we knew they were

girls, or we'd probably still be contemplating.

Sydney was a name Shaun picked. I had wanted Melody and Madison.... but he

didn't like the name Melody. So Sydney took its place.

The English names were based on just like or dislike.... no other deeper

meaning.

But their Korean names are Haneul and Narah. <syd and madi,

respectively...>

Haneul means Sky in Korean.

Narah means Nation.

However, together - - - it means a new word: heavenly kingdom, so Haneul

and Narah it became, cheesy as it might be. )

Grace

Re: Names

> OK Tuna, here are ours:

>

> Bethany was named for my sister and my mother. My sister 's

> middle name is Beth and my mom's name is Jean. Cameron did not really

like

> this choice. I had to cry and promise to let him name the next one in

order

> for him to agree to Bethany's name.

>

> So, then came Kepler . We did not know ahead of time that we were

> having a boy. Cam told me that he had picked out the name Kepler for a

boy,

> but I was sure I was having another girl, so I didn't really mind. (He

> picked Abigail for a girl, which I liked.) Well, low and behold, I had a

> BOY! So, Kepler it was. It seemed perfect once we used it. Kepler is

> named for Johannes Kepler, a 16th century

> physicist/mathematician/astronomer. He was a contemporary of Galileo.

> Kepler's Laws are the laws of planetary motion (things that spin, lol).

He

> also developed an interesting theory on how classical music is based on

the

> movements of the planets. He did lots of other interesting things too,

but

> those are the ones I remember off the top of my head. Kep's middle name

> is for Cam's dad.

>

> So, there it is. If we have another one, it will be my turn to name it.

> LOL. Elena for a girl or for a boy.

>

> Amy H--in Michigan

> Kepler 4 1/2 ASD and Bethany 6 NT

> " Harmony breeds ignorance. It is the dissonant chords of life that lead

us

> to wisdom. " ~me

>

>

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Tuna -

Jacqui - Kennedy Onassis. I chose the spelling because I thought

it was unique. Her middle name () was chosen for my Aunt's daughter

who died of SIDS. She was a couple of years younger than me.

Dh wanted Cassidy (from Grateful Dead fame), but the deal was whatever the

gender of the baby, the parent with the same gender could name the child.

(If she were a boy, her name would have been Dean)

Jeff - I just liked the name. LOL - No story there.

Penny :-D

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My son, Brandt ph, is adopted and my husband and I originally

chose the name Brandt (unusual and it sounded German, which the

Minden family is) (because he was due on St. 's Day.)

Later, we really read the name description in the baby book and

realized Brandt meant " firebrand " , which has proved to be more

accurate than we perhaps would have liked!:-) Anyhow, he was born on

March 20th, the first day of Spring(which was more appropo, we

thought) so the " " went out the window. His birth mother went

thru a rough 3 days after he was born, debating once again whether

she could/should keep him. (Our three days were pretty rough, too,

let me tell you...) At the end of 3 days she called us crying and

asked us to go to the hospital to be with him as she would sign the

papers in the morning. (He got pneumonia right after birth

(aspirated fluids during birth) and was still in the hospital, even

though she had been released.) Anyhow, we rushed to the hospital to

be with him and she signed the papers the next AM. In honor of her,

we chose the middle name ph which was the name she would have

named him, if she kept him. He calls himself Brandt Joe.

He has always known he was adopted. We talked about it to him when

he was too little to understand, just to get used to talking about

it. He has pictures of his birth mom, and for his third Christmas, I

wrote and illustrated a book telling the story of his birth and

adoption, with photos of us, our families and his birth mom and her

family, too. We had a color laser copy made for his birth mom so she

could see what we did with the photos. (Actually, I scanned them and

saved the originals.) It is still one of his favorite books and he

often shares it with others at school, etc. It is sort of like a

social story that explains adoption, but, of course, when I wrote it,

I had never heard of social stories or HFA. Go figure!

Leggs

[Guest guest]

Kandie,

What a wonderful gift you gave ..his birthmom's

name..a part of her that he will always have.

Mimi

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Mine was the opposite..although I use Mimi, my real

name is Madaline..and there was only one other girl

with that name in my entire school. My mom wanted to

name me Lori or ..but my dad really wanted to

name me after his mother..so my mom went along to

please him and my grandmother. And, to make it more

annoying..my mom spelled it with the *a* instead of

the more usual way..Madeline.

People could never remember my name..they called my

Marilyn, nne, n, , even ..when my

cousin started calling me Mimi for short..I made

everyone call me Mimi..although my mom, brother and

various relatives and old friends still call me

Madaline.

Now, of course, the name is really popular..probably

because of the renewed popularity of the Madeline

series.

I would have rather been Lori..LOL!

Mimi

> >

> >So there you have it the origins of my childrens

> names. I should add that

> >when I was going to school (HS) There were 5 Chris

> 's. We were all in the

> >same classes. When the teacher would call " "

> we would all answer. I

> >hated that. Anyway that is why I wanted my

> children to have original

> >names. That and I wanted them to be unforgetable!

>

>

> I had the same problem! There were always too many

> Amy's. I love your

> kids names Chris. I think they are beautiful and I

> love the way you picked

> them!

>

> Amy H--in Michigan

> Kepler 4 1/2 ASD and Bethany 6 NT

> " Harmony breeds ignorance. It is the dissonant

> chords of life that lead us

> to wisdom. " ~me

>

>

>

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I know, some people are just so rude..or maybe they

just have no sense or manners. My cousin Tara is

adopted from Korea..she is 15 now, but when my cousins

Fran and Bob first brought her home one neighbor asked

how were they going to talk to her..since they didn't

speak Korean..and another neighbor asked if she would

have an accent..at the time..Tara was FOUR MONTHS

old..some people are idiots.

And, then, Fran was visiting one of her aunts and her

aunt's neighbor (lots of nosey neighbors..LOL)..said

*She's very cute..but who is going to marry her?*..my

cousin was like *huh*. The she said *Well, she'll

marry whoever she falls in love with!*

Mimi

--- kandiedem@... wrote:

> > >>

> I started talking to him about adoption and his

> personal story when he was

> about 2 years old. I started talking and explaining

> his history very lightly

> to him when he was an infant, because strangers

> would stare at us and even

> ask me outright if he were mine etc. (some VERY

> rude people are out there)

>

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I love their names..both English and Korean. Are

their Korean names on their birth certificates, too?

Mimi

--- Grace Keh wrote:

> We couldn't decide on a name for the longest time...

> I think until month 7

> or so.

> And to come up with two....... well, it's a good

> thing we knew they were

> girls, or we'd probably still be contemplating.

>

> Sydney was a name Shaun picked. I had wanted Melody

> and Madison.... but he

> didn't like the name Melody. So Sydney took its

> place.

> The English names were based on just like or

> dislike.... no other deeper

> meaning.

>

> But their Korean names are Haneul and Narah. <syd

> and madi,

> respectively...>

> Haneul means Sky in Korean.

> Narah means Nation.

>

> However, together - - - it means a new word:

> heavenly kingdom, so Haneul

> and Narah it became, cheesy as it might be. )

>

> Grace

> Re: Names

>

>

> > OK Tuna, here are ours:

> >

> > Bethany was named for my sister and my

> mother. My sister 's

> > middle name is Beth and my mom's name is Jean.

> Cameron did not really

> like

> > this choice. I had to cry and promise to let him

> name the next one in

> order

> > for him to agree to Bethany's name.

> >

> > So, then came Kepler . We did not know

> ahead of time that we were

> > having a boy. Cam told me that he had picked out

> the name Kepler for a

> boy,

> > but I was sure I was having another girl, so I

> didn't really mind. (He

> > picked Abigail for a girl, which I liked.) Well,

> low and behold, I had a

> > BOY! So, Kepler it was. It seemed perfect once

> we used it. Kepler is

> > named for Johannes Kepler, a 16th century

> > physicist/mathematician/astronomer. He was a

> contemporary of Galileo.

> > Kepler's Laws are the laws of planetary motion

> (things that spin, lol).

> He

> > also developed an interesting theory on how

> classical music is based on

> the

> > movements of the planets. He did lots of other

> interesting things too,

> but

> > those are the ones I remember off the top of my

> head. Kep's middle name

> > is for Cam's dad.

> >

> > So, there it is. If we have another one, it will

> be my turn to name it.

> > LOL. Elena for a girl or

> for a boy.

> >

> > Amy H--in Michigan

> > Kepler 4 1/2 ASD and Bethany 6 NT

> > " Harmony breeds ignorance. It is the dissonant

> chords of life that lead

> us

> > to wisdom. " ~me

> >

> >

> >

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Really, I guess my cousin's neighbors aren't the only

idiots around..LOL! I mean, why would anyone think a

newborn would have an accent!

Mimi

--- kandiedem@... wrote:

> In a message dated 3/28/02 1:32:54 PM Pacific

> Standard Time,

> mommys2rubies@... writes:

>

> << and another neighbor asked if she would

> have an accent..at the time..Tara was FOUR MONTHS

> old..some people are idiots. >>

>

> Yes, brings out the idiocy in some people

> too....

> When he was born my cousin said " It'll be neat to

> hear him talk. I wonderf

> what will happen to his accent? "

> I just looked amazed at him. I still can't believe

> how stupid people can be.

>

> :-P

> kandie

>

> Kandie and (9 years)

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>

>However, together - - - it means a new word: heavenly kingdom, so Haneul

>and Narah it became, cheesy as it might be. )

I don't think that's cheesy at all. I think it is quite beautiful!

Amy H--in Michigan

Kepler 4 1/2 ASD and Bethany 6 NT

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>

>WOW.

>And physics, math, astronomy are ALL things Kep can more than likely do one

>day!

>Coincidence?

>

>Johannes sounds rather.... well, spectrumy LOL!

Grace, I have thought the same thing. LOL. I think it is an extremely

fitting name now!

Amy H--in Michigan

Kepler 4 1/2 ASD and Bethany 6 NT

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Leggs,

Another beautiful story! I really do love the name Brandt. Our last name

is Helmuth, very German as well.

Amy H--in Michigan

Kepler 4 1/2 ASD and Bethany 6 NT

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