Re: Gallstone stuck or incomplete flush?

March 12, 2002

This is for anyone who's having problems stopping the pain,

Please take more ES. Either ES or some magnesium caps or something. Plus,

put heat on your GB/liver area, also castor oil pack.

Let me also stress for those of you who have bowel movements that are the

normal color. Start taking Beta-TCP, wherever you may get it. I don't know

if anyone thinks that I know what I'm talking about or what, but this stuff

has helped me just as much as the cleanses. To be honest, I think it's

getting rid of stuff or helping me get rid of it sooner or something before I

even do a cleanse. I highly recommend it, and it's not expensive at all, I

don't think. And it's all natural ingredients in it.

Susie

March 13, 2002

Hi Lu,

Maybe I can shed something here. First, I can't remember if you said

this was your first flush (or what number it is) and also why the

cleanse was in-complete. I can't remember. All I know is that

sometimes for me, a couple days after a cleanse, I will have a colic

attack. You may have a stone or sludge stuck in the duct, or you may

have stones that didn't come out of the gb on the last flush. I

recommend at least 5 to 10 cleanses before you can understand what

your body is doing and what it needs also. I know by ultrasound what

I am dealing with and now I say I " Know my Stone " . This means, I know

what causes colic for me, I know exactly what time of the night I

will get it, I know how long it will last, I know what the cause is

from exactly, and I know how to get rid of the colic fast. So, while

I am trying to elminate this pain by cleansing, I have also learned

to control the pain. I know that in my case, it is a 1 cm stone (hard-

er than the softer liver stone or balls) in my gb that is floating

and needs to come out before my colic will stop completely. That is

my goal. Once I know that one stone is out, I know I will not have

more pain and just do twice a year maintanance to keep my gb clear of

possible new stones forming.

Hope this helps in some way. When in doubt, keep flushing. :-)

Barry.

> Hey there,

> Yesterday morning was my flush day and if you recall I had gotten

sick on Sunday night. I then had some discomfort yesterday and it

finally eased up. Now today I have a question because I am utterly

miserable! Both meals I had today brought on severe bloating to the

point I can hardly breathe....soreness and pain in my right side by

my ribs and in my back same side (right). Did I dislodge a stone and

it is stuck perhaps from the incomplete flush? Or is it ???? I had

soup and bagel with licorice tea and stevia for lunch and dinner and

this morning I had a smoothie for breakfast.....now after breakfast I

did not have this happen, only after the lunch dinner hour.......I

add flax oil and ground flax to my morning drink. My side is sooo

sore.....maybe I have an incomplete flush and need to do this again

to make sure it all safely gets out of the way...??? Any take on

this.

> Peace

> Lu

>

March 13, 2002

Hi Susie,

Could you tell me where to get this Beta-TCP. Thanks for the tips.

Peace

Lu

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From: Tishri7@...

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Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 9:02 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Gallstone stuck or incomplete flush?

This is for anyone who's having problems stopping the pain,

Please take more ES. Either ES or some magnesium caps or something. Plus,

put heat on your GB/liver area, also castor oil pack.

Let me also stress for those of you who have bowel movements that are the

normal color. Start taking Beta-TCP, wherever you may get it. I don't know

if anyone thinks that I know what I'm talking about or what, but this stuff

has helped me just as much as the cleanses. To be honest, I think it's

getting rid of stuff or helping me get rid of it sooner or something before I

even do a cleanse. I highly recommend it, and it's not expensive at all, I

don't think. And it's all natural ingredients in it.

Susie

March 13, 2002

hi there! so tell me, how can get rid of the colic

fast.

thanks

--- barry91162 <barry91162@...> wrote:

> Hi Lu,

>

> Maybe I can shed something here. First, I can't

> remember if you said

> this was your first flush (or what number it is) and

> also why the

> cleanse was in-complete. I can't remember. All I

> know is that

> sometimes for me, a couple days after a cleanse, I

> will have a colic

> attack. You may have a stone or sludge stuck in the

> duct, or you may

> have stones that didn't come out of the gb on the

> last flush. I

> recommend at least 5 to 10 cleanses before you can

> understand what

> your body is doing and what it needs also. I know by

> ultrasound what

> I am dealing with and now I say I " Know my Stone " .

> This means, I know

> what causes colic for me, I know exactly what time

> of the night I

> will get it, I know how long it will last, I know

> what the cause is

> from exactly, and I know how to get rid of the colic

> fast. So, while

> I am trying to elminate this pain by cleansing, I

> have also learned

> to control the pain. I know that in my case, it is a

> 1 cm stone (hard-

> er than the softer liver stone or balls) in my gb

> that is floating

> and needs to come out before my colic will stop

> completely. That is

> my goal. Once I know that one stone is out, I know I

> will not have

> more pain and just do twice a year maintanance to

> keep my gb clear of

> possible new stones forming.

>

> Hope this helps in some way. When in doubt, keep

> flushing. :-)

> Barry.

>

> > Hey there,

> > Yesterday morning was my flush day and if you

> recall I had gotten

> sick on Sunday night. I then had some discomfort

> yesterday and it

> finally eased up. Now today I have a question

> because I am utterly

> miserable! Both meals I had today brought on severe

> bloating to the

> point I can hardly breathe....soreness and pain in

> my right side by

> my ribs and in my back same side (right). Did I

> dislodge a stone and

> it is stuck perhaps from the incomplete flush? Or

> is it ???? I had

> soup and bagel with licorice tea and stevia for

> lunch and dinner and

> this morning I had a smoothie for breakfast.....now

> after breakfast I

> did not have this happen, only after the lunch

> dinner hour.......I

> add flax oil and ground flax to my morning drink.

> My side is sooo

> sore.....maybe I have an incomplete flush and need

> to do this again

> to make sure it all safely gets out of the way...???

> Any take on

> this.

> > Peace

> > Lu

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

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March 13, 2002

Barry,

This was my second flush and I do believe I guessed it right....was an

incomplete flush. Today I am having problems with movements and when I do they

are those cholesterol stones. So this morning I took some epsom salts with juice

and in about 15 mintues I threw up and I had a bad headache. I decided to go

out and take my dogs for a walk as the air is so fresh and crisp and thought it

should help. After the walk I felt much better and was able to hold down some

fresh steamed veggies and sprouted grain toast with an Original Ginger Brew.

Now my stomach feels a lot better than it has in days but I am afraid those

stones are all clogging me up and so I will try again later in the day to take

some epsom salts again. so strange....

Peace

Lu