Guest guest Posted March 18, 2002 Report Share Posted March 18, 2002 Oh, , I've seen those too....glad to know they are liver stones. Thanks! Peace Lu ----- Original Message ----- From: Rachd1961@... gallstones Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 9:33 PM Subject: liver stones p.s. Just wanted to clarify. What I'm referring to as liver stones are the smoother whitish ones that I've read come directly from the liver. I'm wondering how large they can get. thanks, rachel~ The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it and ignorance may deride it, but in the end there it is. " Winston Churchill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2002 Report Share Posted March 18, 2002 Stones can be produced in the liver and/or gallbladder. Liver stones can be white, grey, black, tan, hard, soft, etc. just like the gallstones. Most of the tan color stones in huge numbers coming out in a flush is from the liver ducts. They are usually soft and in a preformed sludgy kind of texture. Hard stones can be pigmented or calcified, or be a softer, newer stone with a hard-er shell. The small white 'marble' looking stones that you have seen in liver pictures are not what you normal get out of the liver. They are calcified or pigment stones stuck in the liver ducts. Size can be from 1mm or smaller to 1cm. I've never heard of these liver stones being bigger but maybe they can be. The liver will normally pass these out and they will drop into the gallbladder and become bigger there over time. Gallstones are normally from 1mm to 3cm in size though there has been cases where a gallstone was the size of the gallbladder itself forming an inter-shell within the gallbladder wall. Like a childs nurf football. Golfball size stones also have been found in the gallbladder. Anything larger than 1cm (in hard-er stone type)in the gallbladder is harder to pass out because the cystic duct is only 4mm to 6mm in size normally. Softer, newer cholesterol stones that have not hardened yet have been known to be up to 3 cm and still squeeze out of the gallbladder with a gallbladder cleanse. Hope this helps some. This is not verified by a doctor. :-) Barry. > Oh, , I've seen those too....glad to know they are liver stones. Thanks! > Peace > Lu > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rachd1961@a... > gallstones@y... > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 9:33 PM > Subject: liver stones p.s. > > > Just wanted to clarify. What I'm referring to as liver stones are the > smoother whitish ones that I've read come directly from the liver. I'm > wondering how large they can get. > thanks, > rachel~ > > The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it and ignorance may deride > it, but in the end there it is. " Winston Churchill > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2002 Report Share Posted March 18, 2002 > Oh, , I've seen those too....glad to know they are liver stones. Thanks! > Peace > Lu Lu I could easily be wrong. After I wrote my post I did an internet search trying to find info about those 'liver stones'. I had read once that the smooth white ones come directly from the liver, but now I can't find a single piece of info about them. If I do find anything reliable I'll pass it along. I came out to the groups site to check and found that new messages were in, but I'm not getting any directly. Is this just me? Are you getting them directly? in health, rachel~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2002 Report Share Posted March 18, 2002 I'm getting all green stones - where are these from ? The gallbladder? ----- Original Message ----- From: " barry91162 " <barry91162@...> <gallstones > Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 10:39 PM Subject: Re: liver stones p.s. > Stones can be produced in the liver and/or gallbladder. Liver stones > can be white, grey, black, tan, hard, soft, etc. just like the > gallstones. Most of the tan color stones in huge numbers coming out > in a flush is from the liver ducts. They are usually soft and in a > preformed sludgy kind of texture. Hard stones can be pigmented or > calcified, or be a softer, newer stone with a hard-er shell. > > The small white 'marble' looking stones that you have seen in liver > pictures are not what you normal get out of the liver. They are > calcified or pigment stones stuck in the liver ducts. Size can be > from 1mm or smaller to 1cm. I've never heard of these liver stones > being bigger but maybe they can be. The liver will normally pass > these out and they will drop into the gallbladder and become bigger > there over time. Gallstones are normally from 1mm to 3cm in size > though there has been cases where a gallstone was the size of the > gallbladder itself forming an inter-shell within the gallbladder > wall. Like a childs nurf football. Golfball size stones also have > been found in the gallbladder. Anything larger than 1cm (in hard-er > stone type)in the gallbladder is harder to pass out because the > cystic duct is only 4mm to 6mm in size normally. Softer, newer > cholesterol stones that have not hardened yet have been known to be > up to 3 cm and still squeeze out of the gallbladder with a > gallbladder cleanse. > > Hope this helps some. This is not verified by a doctor. :-) > Barry. > > > > > > > > Oh, , I've seen those too....glad to know they are liver > stones. Thanks! > > Peace > > Lu > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Rachd1961@a... > > gallstones@y... > > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 9:33 PM > > Subject: liver stones p.s. > > > > > > Just wanted to clarify. What I'm referring to as liver stones are > the > > smoother whitish ones that I've read come directly from the liver. > I'm > > wondering how large they can get. > > thanks, > > rachel~ > > > > The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it and ignorance > may deride > > it, but in the end there it is. " Winston Churchill > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2002 Report Share Posted March 19, 2002 , Those green stones could be from your gb or your liver. If they are very soft they most likely have been cleansed from your liver. If they did come from your gb then they are new stones that where there that could have become harder, crusty, and more difficult to flush. Consider it a blessing when you get sludge, grainy sandy stuff, soft stones, and definitely harder stones out of your body. Keep up the good work of cleaning your liver and digestive organs. Barry. > > > Oh, , I've seen those too....glad to know they are liver > > stones. Thanks! > > > Peace > > > Lu > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Rachd1961@a... > > > gallstones@y... > > > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 9:33 PM > > > Subject: liver stones p.s. > > > > > > > > > Just wanted to clarify. What I'm referring to as liver stones are > > the > > > smoother whitish ones that I've read come directly from the liver. > > I'm > > > wondering how large they can get. > > > thanks, > > > rachel~ > > > > > > The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it and ignorance > > may deride > > > it, but in the end there it is. " Winston Churchill > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2002 Report Share Posted March 19, 2002 Thanks, I got 75 stones today on my 3rd flush. All green. ----- Original Message ----- From: " barry91162 " <barry91162@...> <gallstones > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 8:53 PM Subject: Re: liver stones p.s. > , > > Those green stones could be from your gb or your liver. If they are > very soft they most likely have been cleansed from your liver. If > they did come from your gb then they are new stones that where there > that could have become harder, crusty, and more difficult to flush. > Consider it a blessing when you get sludge, grainy sandy stuff, soft > stones, and definitely harder stones out of your body. Keep up the > good work of cleaning your liver and digestive organs. > > Barry. > > > > > > > > Oh, , I've seen those too....glad to know they are liver > > > stones. Thanks! > > > > Peace > > > > Lu > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Rachd1961@a... > > > > gallstones@y... > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 9:33 PM > > > > Subject: liver stones p.s. > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wanted to clarify. What I'm referring to as liver stones > are > > > the > > > > smoother whitish ones that I've read come directly from the > liver. > > > I'm > > > > wondering how large they can get. > > > > thanks, > > > > rachel~ > > > > > > > > The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it and > ignorance > > > may deride > > > > it, but in the end there it is. " Winston Churchill > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2002 Report Share Posted March 19, 2002 , Overall, that sounds great. Do you still have any colic? And have you been monitoring your gb by ultrasound to see if it is clear? Barry. > > > > > Oh, , I've seen those too....glad to know they are liver > > > > stones. Thanks! > > > > > Peace > > > > > Lu > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Rachd1961@a... > > > > > gallstones@y... > > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 9:33 PM > > > > > Subject: liver stones p.s. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wanted to clarify. What I'm referring to as liver stones > > are > > > > the > > > > > smoother whitish ones that I've read come directly from the > > liver. > > > > I'm > > > > > wondering how large they can get. > > > > > thanks, > > > > > rachel~ > > > > > > > > > > The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it and > > ignorance > > > > may deride > > > > > it, but in the end there it is. " Winston Churchill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2002 Report Share Posted March 19, 2002 Congratulations on a successful flush! rachel~ > Thanks, > I got 75 stones today on my 3rd flush. All green. > > ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2002 Report Share Posted March 20, 2002 Hi there, I have CFS, I have not had pain in the gb area. I have had severe pain on the lower right side of my abdomen - I don't think this is gb or liver related though. My goal is to remove the gallstones and liver stones that may have gathered due to chronic toxicity. ----- Original Message ----- From: " barry91162 " <barry91162@...> <gallstones > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 9:31 PM Subject: Re: liver stones p.s. > , > > Overall, that sounds great. Do you still have any colic? And have you > been monitoring your gb by ultrasound to see if it is clear? > > Barry. > > > > > > > > > > Oh, , I've seen those too....glad to know they are > liver > > > > > stones. Thanks! > > > > > > Peace > > > > > > Lu > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: Rachd1961@a... > > > > > > gallstones@y... > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 9:33 PM > > > > > > Subject: liver stones p.s. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wanted to clarify. What I'm referring to as liver > stones > > > are > > > > > the > > > > > > smoother whitish ones that I've read come directly from the > > > liver. > > > > > I'm > > > > > > wondering how large they can get. > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > rachel~ > > > > > > > > > > > > The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it and > > > ignorance > > > > > may deride > > > > > > it, but in the end there it is. " Winston Churchill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2002 Report Share Posted March 21, 2002 , If you don't have colic gallbladder pain then those green soft stones most likely came from your liver. Globs of toxic waste removed by your cleanse. It's always good to clean out your liver. Also the gallbladder will empty some sludge and waste as well during the cleanse. That lower abdomen pain must be taken care of differently. Is it in the kidney area? Lower intestine? That would require something different than just the liver/gallbladder cleanse. What are you doing for that? Good luck. Barry. > > > > > > > Oh, , I've seen those too....glad to know they are > > liver > > > > > > stones. Thanks! > > > > > > > Peace > > > > > > > Lu > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: Rachd1961@a... > > > > > > > gallstones@y... > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 9:33 PM > > > > > > > Subject: liver stones p.s. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wanted to clarify. What I'm referring to as liver > > stones > > > > are > > > > > > the > > > > > > > smoother whitish ones that I've read come directly from the > > > > liver. > > > > > > I'm > > > > > > > wondering how large they can get. > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > > rachel~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it and > > > > ignorance > > > > > > may deride > > > > > > > it, but in the end there it is. " Winston Churchill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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