Relax and take your time

[Guest guest]

Hello, everyone. I've been absent from the list for a couple of days,

and unless it's me, it seems that the whole of was down

on a good part of Monday? I didn't receive much from any list that

day.

Anyway, some people (especially those taking Epsoms salts or another

laxative, probably) go to the bathroom quite a few times on flush

days, other people fewer times, although necessarily more often than

normal. Tips like soft toilet paper, vaseline and one of Sonne's

formulas can be useful, and I'm sure that people's bowels are

different, too. But what I've found is that if I just keep sitting

there, more water (with or without stones and stuff, depending on

where I am in the process) will very often come out. In the worst

case I sit there for 20-25 minutes, until my left leg starts falling

asleep.

Eliminating liquid has a different sensation than eliminating stool:

it seems that I'm finished, just like after an ordinary bowel

movement, but after a short while more comes out still. Maybe a tip

would be to relax on the toilet and take one's time and see if there

is not more to come. Also, don't be impatient or frustrated if things

do keep coming and it takes a long time (bring reading material,

maybe?). Accept whatever situation and be a constructive part of it.

Think: right now I'm doing this part of the gallbladder flush; later

I will do something else, but that will be then: now I'm sitting here

doing some necessary elimination work. Maybe this approach could

spare some people for something like half the trips to the toilet and

a sore button?

I attempted a yoga bowel cleanse once, drinking umpteen cups of salt

water, and the teacher told us that some people do not " open up " on

the first cleanse, but hold back, so that the water and other

substances are not expelled so quickly. (I was possibly one of those,

at least to a certain degree.)

I just noticed that one poster in the archives also believed that

it's important to relax in bed, to release more stones. Perhaps a

more meditative approach to the whole process will bring out a

problem stone...? Who knows: there must be several factors involved

in that problem.

-- Helge

[Guest guest]

helge.gundersen@... writes:

> Eliminating liquid has a different sensation than eliminating stool:

> it seems that I'm finished, just like after an ordinary bowel

> movement, but after a short while more comes out still. Maybe a tip

> would be to relax on the toilet and take one's time and see if there

> is not more to come.

I think that's great advice, Helge. I've noticed that also, that sometimes

there is additional " output " if I am patient for a few minutes. A little

patience goes a long way. I think maybe the body just needs to

completely relax there in order to do what it needs to do.....

rachel~

[Guest guest]

Helge,

I'm one of the believers in ES. I even use 5 tblsns instead of 4. I

have the same results as you do with the elimination of a lot of

water after the first two drinks. Between 8pm and 10pm I can go maybe

20 times to the toilet passing only water usually. I like this part

of the 'flushing' (It is called that for more reasons than one)

because it sort of dehydrates me in preparation for the oil drink. I

think (in my case) when my body is clear of all waste and water

retention that my body will really soak in the oil drink to it's

maximum potential. Also, I've lost 10 lbs over 6 cleanses this way so

the other added benefit of fasting and flushing is welcomed.

Weither it dialates the ducts, or relaxes them is no concern for me

as long as everything is moving at the excellerated rate that I

desire.

The meditative approach is definitely something everyone should be

doing in their own way. Some people use positive thinking, faith in

what they want to achieve, prayer to their higher being, relaxation,

and visualization. Beats laying in bed crying about your situation.

If you're going to go for it then having a positive approach and

mindset about it will only encourage greater results.

Good luck with your health.

Barry.

> Hello, everyone. I've been absent from the list for a couple of

days,

> and unless it's me, it seems that the whole of was

down

> on a good part of Monday? I didn't receive much from any list that

> day.

>

> Anyway, some people (especially those taking Epsoms salts or

another

> laxative, probably) go to the bathroom quite a few times on flush

> days, other people fewer times, although necessarily more often

than

> normal. Tips like soft toilet paper, vaseline and one of Sonne's

> formulas can be useful, and I'm sure that people's bowels are

> different, too. But what I've found is that if I just keep sitting

> there, more water (with or without stones and stuff, depending on

> where I am in the process) will very often come out. In the worst

> case I sit there for 20-25 minutes, until my left leg starts

falling

> asleep.

>

> Eliminating liquid has a different sensation than eliminating

stool:

> it seems that I'm finished, just like after an ordinary bowel

> movement, but after a short while more comes out still. Maybe a tip

> would be to relax on the toilet and take one's time and see if

there

> is not more to come. Also, don't be impatient or frustrated if

things

> do keep coming and it takes a long time (bring reading material,

> maybe?). Accept whatever situation and be a constructive part of

it.

> Think: right now I'm doing this part of the gallbladder flush;

later

> I will do something else, but that will be then: now I'm sitting

here

> doing some necessary elimination work. Maybe this approach could

> spare some people for something like half the trips to the toilet

and

> a sore button?

>

> I attempted a yoga bowel cleanse once, drinking umpteen cups of

salt

> water, and the teacher told us that some people do not " open up " on

> the first cleanse, but hold back, so that the water and other

> substances are not expelled so quickly. (I was possibly one of

those,

> at least to a certain degree.)

>

> I just noticed that one poster in the archives also believed that

> it's important to relax in bed, to release more stones. Perhaps a

> more meditative approach to the whole process will bring out a

> problem stone...? Who knows: there must be several factors involved

> in that problem.

>

> -- Helge