Re: Agnes..Thank you....

March 6, 2002

Barry,

I have a book " Healing With Whole Foods: Oriental Traditions and Modern

Nutrition " by Pitchford and I think I saw something in there regarding

this....I believe he said you need to do a gradual cleanse/flush to remove the

stubborn type....let me see if I can find it and look it up.

Peace

Lu

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From: barry91162

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Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 6:43 PM

Subject: Agnes..Thank you....

Agnes,

This is Barry (the guy with the 1cm stone that after 6 flushes is

still there and was asking you for extra advice on maybe trying to do

something different in the cleanse or maybe something specific that I

could do to get the problem stone finally out. whew. :-)..)

These are great stories. It has pretty much answered my question that

I have asked you a couple of times in the recent past. Is this

the 'answer that I may not want to hear'? I know you don't usually

specifically answer questions individually (only on a general basis

for everyone) because you really cannot tell what a persons body is

doing anyway. Everyone is different. These stories generalize

everything and answers a lot of flushers specific problems with the

cleansing method. What I got as an answer to 'how to get my problem

stone out' was to just KEEP FLUSHING. After reading these stories,

and my only having 6 cleanses under my toilet, makes my 1cm problem

stone seem very small in comparison. This gives me more encouragement

and faith to continue on this path that I have faith will eventually

clear out the stubborn stone(s). Thanks for the great post with

stories. What is my option besides continuing to flush? Surgery?

Not yet for this believer. :-)

Barry.

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...<<<..I believe he said you need to do a gradual cleanse/flush to remove

the stubborn type....let me see if I can find it and look it up. >>>

Lu, that would be helpful for a number of us. laura

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>

March 6, 2002

Hi Lu,

Thank you. I'll be waiting patiently for that helpful information if

you can find it again. Gradual flush sounds interesting when I was

thinking a 'hard' cleanse would be prefered for removing a bigger,

more stubborn stone. One thing I'm thinking of trying is using the

Dr. Hulga cleanse (like I usually do) but adding more oil every

15 minutes for one hour. This will put more effect (pressure) on my

gallbladder to contract more. I think only the one drink of s

potion isn't enough for my body. It does great for the gunk and

softer stones, but I think I need more contractions for the

gallbladder. I have used two oil drinks before but want to now try a

slightly different method of cleanse. I need to find what works most

effectively for my body and individual problem.

Thanks again. (If you find that info please pass it on to me).

Peace & Love,

Barry.

> Barry,

> I have a book " Healing With Whole Foods: Oriental Traditions and

Modern Nutrition " by Pitchford and I think I saw something in

there regarding this....I believe he said you need to do a gradual

cleanse/flush to remove the stubborn type....let me see if I can find

it and look it up.

> Peace

> Lu

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: barry91162

> gallstones@y...

> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 6:43 PM

> Subject: Agnes..Thank you....

>

> Agnes,

>

> This is Barry (the guy with the 1cm stone that after 6 flushes is

> still there and was asking you for extra advice on maybe trying to

do

> something different in the cleanse or maybe something specific that

I

> could do to get the problem stone finally out. whew. :-)..)

>

> These are great stories. It has pretty much answered my question

that

> I have asked you a couple of times in the recent past. Is this

> the 'answer that I may not want to hear'? I know you don't usually

> specifically answer questions individually (only on a general basis

> for everyone) because you really cannot tell what a persons body is

> doing anyway. Everyone is different. These stories generalize

> everything and answers a lot of flushers specific problems with the

> cleansing method. What I got as an answer to 'how to get my problem

> stone out' was to just KEEP FLUSHING. After reading these stories,

> and my only having 6 cleanses under my toilet, makes my 1cm problem

> stone seem very small in comparison. This gives me more

encouragement

> and faith to continue on this path that I have faith will

eventually

> clear out the stubborn stone(s). Thanks for the great post with

> stories. What is my option besides continuing to flush? Surgery?

> Not yet for this believer. :-)

>

> Barry.

>

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March 7, 2002

Hi Barry,

I have the book in front of me here and this is what it says

" In cases of very large stones which cannot be flushed through the bile duct,

the gradual method is appropriate "

Okay, here is the gradual flush:

During this process, avoid foods richest in saturated fats and

cholesterol--heavy meats, dairy, and eggs.. Also avoid peanuts and eat other

nuts and seeds sparingly, if at all. Eat primarily unrefined grains,

vegetables, fruits, and legumes. Such a ddiet gradually clears the gall

bladder. Pears, parsnips, seaweeds, lemons, limes, and the spice tumeric hasten

the gallstone removal, and can be emphasized in the diet during the entire

cleanse. Radish also removes deposits and stones from the gall bladder.. For

21 days, eat just one or two radhishes a day between meals; in additiong drink

three cups of cleavers (galium aparine) tea, or fived cups of chamomile

(Anthemis nobilis) tea each day. Finally, pour five teaspons of fresh, cold

pressed flax oil over food at one meal of the day, or use half this amount two

daily meals. The dosage can vary proportionally according to weight (a 160 lb.

person needs about five teaspoons). Flax oil should be taken six days a week

for two moonths. This diet and its specific stone-dissolving foods and herbs

are usually sufficient to remove all sediment. "

Okay, so that is what he suggest, he also has the flush that is the one that

most use on the list here. This book I purchased about 10 years ago and have

referred to it many time when in doubt where others don't make much sense for

me. Overall his advice in this book is very sound. What precedes this advice

in his book is information regarding the liver and imbalance of liver and

causes. It is very 3 dimensional as to addressing all issues related to the

health of any one particular system in the body. He has tons of nutrition

advice also that I really can't get into over email but overall it is very good

advice.

An issue lots of people have using renewing diets is that they run out of good

ideas on making tasty food or not eating just boring stuff which always leads to

splurges of a violent nature...roflol.....like a gallon of ice cream washed down

with a litre of soda pop....roflol...

Anyhow, if you are really bored with this diet over 21 days give me a holler

privately off the list and I will see if I can give you some recipes or ideas.

Hope this helps.

Peace

Lu

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From: barry91162

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Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:36 PM

Subject: Re: Agnes..Thank you....