Guest guest Posted February 27, 2002 Report Share Posted February 27, 2002 Seth I'll give my take on your questions.... 1) The Epsom Salts are used not only to make the ducts more elastic but also to clean out the bowels. If you try it you'll see how VERY effective it is at the latter! So the reason that they are suggested to be used in the morning, from what I understand (not being a medical professional and just going by what I've read) is to initiate additional bowel movement in order to eliminate the stones/chaff/sludge that has been dumped by the gallbladder. 2) I can think of two reasons for using olive oil. The first is that it is less costly than other options such as flax seed oil. More importantly, though, olive oil has a lot of tremendous healing qualities, so it is a very healthy substance to ingest. So it may be possible that any fat would work, but since a cleanse is a healing thing to do it only makes sense to use a substance that is also good for the body. And as for a high fat diet cleansing on a regular basis, in theory this would only work if it was alternated with periods of no fat. When you ingest no fat the bile builds up in the gallbladder, which is what makes the flush more effective, since there's obviously more fluid to flush the stones out with. That's my perspective on your questions. If you don't feel that I've answered them or would like clarification of what I meant, please feel free to ask. in health, rachel~ samhains_eve@... writes: << 1) I understand that the MGSO4 is used to dilate the openings to the gall bladder and liver. Is it recommended that someone new to flushing use MGSO4? Also, if MGSO4 is used only for dilation, then why is it required after the ingestion of the olive oil? 2) Is there something unique to Olive Oil that makes it work for this method? Or will any oil/fat work? I have read a few websites that basically say that any oil/fat should work. That introducing large quantities of fat/oil after a period of fasting forces the gall bladder to expile stones and bile. Could someone clarify this? If this is true, then does that mean if I do not eat anything for 12 hours and then ingest a large quantity of fat/oil (say 2 sticks of butter) that this will cause stones to be flushed out? The reason that I ask is I have been following high fat diet for several years and I'm wondering if I'm already flushing my gallbladder/liver regularly. Seth >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2002 Report Share Posted February 27, 2002 1) I understand that the MGSO4 is used to dilate the openings to the gall bladder and liver. Is it recommended that someone new to flushing use MGSO4? Also, if MGSO4 is used only for dilation, then why is it required after the ingestion of the olive oil? WHAT IS MGSO4? 2) Is there something unique to Olive Oil that makes it work for this method? Or will any oil/fat work? I HAVE DONE some reading and been in discussions with nutrition-minded folks about using Flax Seed Oil rather than Olive Oil as it has anti-inflammatory properties and helps with the inflammation that can follow a real good flush. Any healthy oil is good, olive oil is the oil most discussed as it is low priced, healthy and was probably the first used for this flush. L. Meydrech " A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a http://nutritionist.tripod.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2002 Report Share Posted February 27, 2002 > WHAT IS MGSO4? Sorry. The chemical formula for Epsom Salts. Seth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2002 Report Share Posted February 27, 2002 Hello, I'm going to take a stab at your questions. 1.Dale posted earlier today that Epsom does not actually dialate the ducts, it increases the elasticity of the ducts, which would enable stones to pass more easily. So, I'm imagining that you would need the epsom after the ingestion of the oil, in order to keep the ducts pliable. I've always used the cleanse (epsom salt is an ingredient). Some cleanses do not call for epsom, but I've never read that first time cleansers should use any particular cleanse. It's more a matter of preference. I chose to do the cleanse because it seemed simple and, from the reading I've done, very effective. 2. Can't answer this one, but there are other cleanses which do not use it....one uses whipping cream. It is my opinion, only, that the liver passes chaff, and smaller cholesterol crystals on a daily basis, as it's normal function; every time it secretes bile, it is flushing itself. I know Dale has posted before about the kinds of fats that are most beneficial to the liver, but I don't think two sticks of butter qualify! Hope this helps, Adrienne healing_crow <samhains_eve@...> wrote: Hello, I'm new to the group and fairly new to the liver flush methodolgy. I have a few questions that I was hoping that someone might be able to answer. These are in reference to the Hulda method. 1) I understand that the MGSO4 is used to dilate the openings to the gall bladder and liver. Is it recommended that someone new to flushing use MGSO4? Also, if MGSO4 is used only for dilation, then why is it required after the ingestion of the olive oil? 2) Is there something unique to Olive Oil that makes it work for this method? Or will any oil/fat work? I have read a few websites that basically say that any oil/fat should work. That introducing large quantities of fat/oil after a period of fasting forces the gall bladder to expile stones and bile. Could someone clarify this? If this is true, then does that mean if I do not eat anything for 12 hours and then ingest a large quantity of fat/oil (say 2 sticks of butter) that this will cause stones to be flushed out? The reason that I ask is I have been following high fat diet for several years and I'm wondering if I'm already flushing my gallbladder/liver regularly. Seth --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 " but there are other cleanses which do not use it....one uses whipping cream. It is my opinion, only, that the liver passes chaff, and smaller cholesterol crystals on a daily basis, as it's normal function; every time it secretes bile, it is flushing itself. I know Dale has posted before about the kinds of fats that are most beneficial to the liver, but I don't think two sticks of butter qualify! " Adrienne, Thanks for your response. I was just throwing butter out there as an example, however, I am of the mind that it can be a " good " fat and am not really concerned with it in my diet. When I get a free weekend, I think I may give this a try! Thanks again, Seth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 " And as for a high fat diet cleansing on a regular basis, in theory this would only work if it was alternated with periods of no fat. When you ingest no fat the bile builds up in the gallbladder, which is what makes the flush more effective, since there's obviously more fluid to flush the stones out with. That's my perspective on your questions. If you don't feel that I've answered them or would like clarification of what I meant, please feel free to ask. " Thanks for your thoughts rachel. I always like to think things through before giving them a try. Even though I do not have any liver/gallbladder symptoms that I know of, I probably will try the Hulda method when I get a free weekend. I do not see how the flush can do any harm and I'm of the mind that we should try the less harmless things first when trying to acheive health. Thanks again, Seth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 I have every thing you write about and feel the same as you about our problems. Also when my gut problems decrease I feel much better. Jimd --- Jaep <Jaep@...> wrote: > > > > Over the last few days my monthly cyclical flare > of symptoms were shall > we say apparent...Thing is gut symptoms were evident > , strange that ..or is > it ...how many can subdue symptoms somewhat by > eating? it seems with me food > is mopping up toxins !! just guessing but that's the > feeling...How many have > a protruding belly ...a beer gut!...not fat but just > protruding? How many > far from experiencing constipation when taking > bacterial ABX's [the norm] > actually improve their gut function ? > I think I have some answers , but it would be > interesting to see if others > relate to the above... > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.2/53 - > Release Date: 20/07/2005 > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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