Re: Slipped disc.....

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Several months ago I had alot of back pain and was unable to hardly function,

stand, sit or lay. After a week of this I went numb from the waist down. The

Neuro was almost positive it was MS but after the MRI it was found to be a

herniated and slipped disc. I was told that my only hope was surgery. I did not

agree. I started to see a chiropractor for the condition and combined it with

massage. Today I am back to normal, no meds, no surgery and functioning as

normal with no pain.

nagra101 wrote:

Hello all,

The new year hasn't been great....

On 2nd Jan Sandi's calf pain got really bad. After 4 days of hardly

any sleep, and going back and forth to the doctors, walk-in centre

and hospital Sandi was finally admitted into hospital. The next day

she was moved to the neurology ward and told the pain was probably

down to MS and she should start some steroids. I disagreed with

their diagnosis for a number of reasons and began to organise a

private MRI scan. In the meantime I asked for a second opinion and

spoke to the neurologist and aired my views. The next day the

neurologist decided to organise an MRI and it appears that Sandi has

a minor slipped disc in her lumbar region (L5 I think the back

consultant said).

After 10 nights at the hospital Sandi came home today still in pain

and on a serious amount of pain-killers (Morphine, Codeine,

Amitrytiline, Diclofenac, paracetamol etc.)

The back consultant recommends at least 6 weeks bed-rest and then

another MRI scan - and then he would decide whether surgery was

needed.

Sandi had just managed to get some strength back and was quite active

prior to this mishap - I am now worried that being in bed for the

next 6 weeks will not do her any good. The consultant has

recommended no exercise or stretching just bed-rest.

Has any one on the forum experienced a slipped disc - and can any one

offer any advice please.

Thanks,

Pinda

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[Guest guest]

This also just happened to my Husband. He has a pain specialist that did

Denervation to help deaden the pain caused from the nerves involved and said

that it is the safest way to go without exacerbating MS. It will help as the

body heals itself. My Husband shouldn't have surgery due to a messed up

Fusion from a prior neck fracture. So surgery really wasn't an option for him

and

neither is a chiropractor for adjustments. He does see a chiropractor for

massage and other therapies and that helps. He is allergic to almost every

pain medicine under the sun. So he was throwing up from being in so much pain

prior to this Denervation. I highly recommend looking into this less

invasive procedure.

Hope things get better soon

Take care,

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[Guest guest]

The chiropractor that I used in New Mexico had Pro-Adjuster, a machine that

realigned the spine with frequency. It was not as rough as the traditional

snap-crackle-pop type of chiropractic. I saw a back specialist at one time

because my lower back hurt so much, so often. He ordered x-rays of my spine.

After reading them, he decided that surgery wouldn't help me and suggested

chiropractic (which I had already been doing). I went as often as I could to

the chiropractor. I still have back pain at times, but nothing like what I had.

I know from the readings on the machine that my back was out of alignment and

nerves were getting pinched or pressure was being applied to them. Being

sedentary has a detrimental effect on the spine. Surgery was the last resort,

one so drastic that I would not have done it willingly. I wanted to know the

condition of my back and the diagnosis was helpful.

" Nesler, J " wrote: A so called 'slipped disc' is

really just a misaligned spine.

Chiropractic therapy has matured greatly in the last 10 years. They now

offer a lot of techniques that can ease your pain and help the healing.

Surgery may sound like a good bet but it causes as many problems as it

cures and may not help in the long run.

You owe it to Sandi to consider alternatives...:-)

Tom Nesler

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[Guest guest]

Hi Elaine,

How soon did you start using a chiropracter?

Sandi has been bed-ridden with chronic pain for about 2 weeks - the

meds ease the pain for about 3-4 hrs but then its back with a

vengence.

How long did you need/continue with painkilling medication?

Cheers,

Pinda

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> Several months ago I had alot of back pain and was unable to hardly

function, stand, sit or lay. After a week of this I went numb from

the waist down. The Neuro was almost positive it was MS but after the

MRI it was found to be a herniated and slipped disc. I was told that

my only hope was surgery. I did not agree. I started to see a

chiropractor for the condition and combined it with massage. Today I

am back to normal, no meds, no surgery and functioning as normal with

no pain.

>

[Guest guest]

Lots of people aren't careful with terminology about such.  Both my wife and I

have compressed disks with nerve bulge which is very common/ also called

degenerative disk sometime and   Spon.......  ( sp)  I have often had

sciattica but when I treat it it gets better.

Dr. Vickory has research that indicates most " degenerative disk " are due to

metallothionein (MT) deficiency, similar to that seen in most autistics and many

others with mercury related problems.  Means you can't excrete mercury well and

some enzymatic processes are blocked.   I have just started using his

treatment for my disk problem, likewise for my wife.

If the body is not digesting its dietary protein it is because the pancreas is

not producing the necessary digestive enzymes Dr. Brice Vickery addressed this

problem in the early 1980’s when he found that all his patients with

degenerative disk disease were also deficient in systemic protein and organic

sulfur. After years of testing, Dr. Vickery solved the problem of the limiting

amino acid that renders so many other amino acid blends ineffective or,

especially in the case of cysteine, dangerous. He produced a perfectly balanced

blend of essential amino acids (Platinum Plus Essential Amino Acids, US Patent

6,203,820) that actually enable the digestive system to produce the required

enzymes to break dietary protein into amino acids. Vickery recorded that in ten

to twelve hours of taking Platinum Plus his patient’s spinal disks began to

heal. This was proven thru countless MRI’s and CAT Scans. Further testing

showed that combined with a certain program of use (The Vickery Protocol)

Platinum Plus enabled the body to manufacture systemic proteins, which actually

boosted the immune system to the point that it could heal other imbalance and

disease conditions as well.

 

Heavy metal Poisoning:

Vickery added extra organic sulfur and molybdenum to his blend to support phase

II liver detox pathways, helping the body to flush toxins such as heavy metals

out of the system. Attached charts show how quickly Platinum Plus Essential

Amino Acids enable the system to completely flush mercury, lead, and aluminum

from the body.

Fibromyalgia:

B.E. Vickery’s testing showed all Fibromyalgia patients to have five common

conditions, regardless of their symptoms. 1)protein deficiency 2)degenerating

spinal disks 3)sulfur deficiency 4) heavy metal toxicity , and 5) viral

infection. When they follow the Protocol their bodies are able to heal.

Liver disease:

If the liver does not have adequate amounts of systemic protein it cannot make

body fluid regulators like albumin, it cannot make repair proteins used by the

blood, and it cannot keep up its two-phase detoxification system that the body

uses to filter and clean the blood. These two pathways also require glutathione

and molybdenum, respectively to work properly. If the body cannot supply these

things, the liver becomes susceptible to disease. Vickery’s research has shown

Platinum Plus to allow the liver to heal itself of diseases such as hepatitis

and start functioning normally again.

  Studies have shown that patients with depression, bipolar disorder,

Parkinson’s disease, Alzheimers, and autism are have severe zinc imbalances

(8). Studies also show that when the metal levels are high, glutathione levels

are reduced and metabolic processes blocked.(11-14)      ( I think this is

true for MS also)

  Studies have shown that patients with depression, bipolar disorder,

Parkinson’s disease, Alzheimers, and autism are have severe zinc imbalances

(8). Studies also show that when the metal levels are high, glutathione levels

are reduced and metabolic processes blocked.(11-14)      ( I think this is

true for MS also)

www.abctohealth.com

Bernie

[Guest guest]

My osteopath has done wonders for me physically.

I don't know where you live but the wiki

page<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopath>has links to US, Canadian

and UK organizations. If anyone lives in the

Toronto, ON Canada area (Old Weston area) then you can contact me if you

want his name/number.

An osteopath uses gentle manipulation techniques to correct alignment

issues. In Canada they are quite holistic in their approach.

[Guest guest]

Hi Orla....I have heard varying advise on Osteopaths. I was happy to hear that

your doc follows a holistic approach. Does he try to push pills or does he stick

with gentle manipulation? I am just across the border and may be interested in

seeing him..Jim

Orla Hegarty wrote: My osteopath has done wonders

for me physically.

I don't know where you live but the wiki

page<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopath>has links to US, Canadian

and UK organizations. If anyone lives in the

Toronto, ON Canada area (Old Weston area) then you can contact me if you

want his name/number.

An osteopath uses gentle manipulation techniques to correct alignment

issues. In Canada they are quite holistic in their approach.

[Guest guest]

Hi Jim...osteopaths in Canada do not have the authority to give

prescriptions...but in the states they do....so their education and

treatment approach is quite different here.

So, no prescriptions...just gentle manipulation.....last week I had a

pinched nerve in my neck (right where my lesions are)....and he fixed it in

one hour.....he told me it would be sore for awhile (it is)...but i have

full range of movement again.....i can't afford to see him as regularly as

before but i am making sure that i see him at least once a month....he

charges $115 CAD/hour and he has a Mississauga location and one in Weston.

His name is Atily Gunaratne and his contact # . He has worked

with a number of people that were told they have MS over the time in

practice (over 15 years).

A complete list of licensed Ontario osteopaths can be found here - maybe

someone would be closer...you can always phone to discuss their approach

first...I did that but ended up going with Atily because two people I knew

went to him (not MS people tho):

http://www.osteopathyontario.com/find-an-osteopath.php

and back to my pinched nerve....my family doctor gave me a stack of

prescriptions for various meds and physio as her solution... .and told me

that it might be weeks before i'd see improvement.....oh the lovely world of

allopathic medicine........i really should go back and redo the range of

motion tests for her....i couldn't do them last week in her office.....and i

was more than a little terrified.....

> Hi Orla....I have heard varying advise on Osteopaths. I was happy to

> hear that your doc follows a holistic approach. Does he try to push pills or

> does he stick with gentle manipulation? I am just across the border and may

> be interested in seeing him..Jim

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