Re: gallstone consultation = colonoscopy

[Guest guest]

Suzanne,

Have you considered getting a second opinion? Maybe that would be

helpful for you. Sometimes the doctor can be off base. They are only

human. Did you get the second ultrasound on the gb to see how it

looked? Maybe it is a combination of two problems?

Good luck with your health.

Barry.

> Hello Everyone,

>

> I've posted this yesterday, but there seems to be something wrong

> with my messages getting through.

>

> To make it short - I went to the specialist Monday; I was referred

to

> the doctor by my GP after an episode/attack. I was hoping to get a

> second ultrasound for comparisons sake.

>

> Guess what. He's advising me to have a colonoscopy. So apparently

> my symptoms of gas and frequent bowel movements and age of 49 are

> more indicative of bowel problems than my stones in the ultrasound

> are a problem.

>

> Maybe it's a good idea for screening, but I was wondering if

anybody

> has more stats/info on colonoscopies.

>

> Thanks very much for your help,

>

> Suzanne

[Guest guest]

Dear Barry,

Thank you for your response. I was in such shock after seeing the

doctor. I was having bad attacks and had the ultrasound confirmation

of gallstones in Sept. It took a long time to get the appt, but I

was hoping to have a few good results with my flushing. My GP said -

" you need your gallbladder out " .

You can imagine my surprise when it was all brushed under the carpet

by the specialist and he was more concerned with the colonoscopy. I

brought him back to the topic by asking about ways of getting rid of

the gallstones and he said they were no big problem for me now. come

back later if they are. He said that I would know if there were

problems because the pain would be so bad that I'd be on the floor

and it's worse than childbearing. I guess that he's experienced that

first hand. (Of course, I'm glad not to have to argue re:

gallbladder removal -Lucky me! )

I did try for a second ultra sound from him, but to no success. I

will now try to get my Gynie Doctor to give me one. And yes, I will

certainly need to seek a second opinion.

I still wonder how good this idea of colonoscopy is and what are the

risks? So if anybody has experience or knowledge.........

Suzanne

[Guest guest]

Suzanne,

Yes, when something doesn't seem right by a doctors advice, it is

always good to get a second and even a third opinion. Seems the more

serious the condition, the more likly this will happen. Like... " Ummm,

we need to do a brain transplant " . " Doc, I think I'll get a second

opinion on that. After all, it is only a slight headache once a year " .

haha You get my drift, right? Listen to your body, and your instincts

as well. That inner voice is sometimes more 'valuable' than all those

medical certificates on the doctors wall. After all, he is the one

driving the BMW, not you. :-)

Most people with gallstones never experience colic pain and can live

their entire lives with 'silent' stones in their gallbladders.

Surgery, medication, alternative methods, are only recommended for

people with gallstone problems, not nessessary for people just with

gallstones. If you have gallstones without pain, why stir the pot and

maybe create problem by flushing or medication just because you don't

like the picture of stones in your ultrasound. Doctors will tell you

that " if it ain't broke, don't fix it " . They are correct in that.

Symptomatic stones are the only stones you need to get immediate

relief from. Let the silent stones sleep. Stirring the pot could

cause sleeping silent stones to wake up and cause colic to the point

that you could be naming the stones for 'birth', or else scheduling

removal of the organ that you may have been able to keep if you had

left the thing alone.

If colic can be controlled by reconditioning your diet, flushing, etc

then it is always better to keep your gallbladder for it's reservoir

function. This could be a lifetime change to prevent deabillitating

pain later. If the gallbladder does not revert back to proper

function, the pain is 'too much to live with', the gallbladder is

diseased and can cause worse problems later, then surgery is a better

option than trying to live with a 'timebomb' organ.

How is your progress going? How is your colic? These are personal

questions that you need to answer yourself. No doctor, or flush group

can tell you what it best for you. :-) Good luck with your health.

Be healthy.

Barry.

> Dear Barry,

>

> Thank you for your response. I was in such shock after seeing the

> doctor. I was having bad attacks and had the ultrasound

confirmation

> of gallstones in Sept. It took a long time to get the appt, but I

> was hoping to have a few good results with my flushing. My GP

said -

> " you need your gallbladder out " .

>

> You can imagine my surprise when it was all brushed under the

carpet

> by the specialist and he was more concerned with the colonoscopy.

I

> brought him back to the topic by asking about ways of getting rid

of

> the gallstones and he said they were no big problem for me now.

come

> back later if they are. He said that I would know if there were

> problems because the pain would be so bad that I'd be on the floor

> and it's worse than childbearing. I guess that he's experienced

that

> first hand. (Of course, I'm glad not to have to argue re:

> gallbladder removal -Lucky me! )

>

> I did try for a second ultra sound from him, but to no success. I

> will now try to get my Gynie Doctor to give me one. And yes, I

will

> certainly need to seek a second opinion.

>

> I still wonder how good this idea of colonoscopy is and what are

the

> risks? So if anybody has experience or knowledge.........

>

> Suzanne

[Guest guest]

had to ask... how does *he* know firsthand that it's worse than

childbearing! ;-) although, of course, IT IS!!!! I know that for a fact, and

like I told someone recently, the worst of it is it springs up on you, at

least with childbirth you get roughly nine months notice and then it's

over... the physical pain that is!!!

enjoy all, and have a fun weekend off.

cheers

-----Original Message-----

From: suzanne_on_ca [mailto:suzanne_on_ca@...]

Sent: Thursday, 28 March 2002 11:56

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Subject: Re: gallstone consultation = colonoscopy

Dear Barry,

Thank you for your response. I was in such shock after seeing the

doctor. I was having bad attacks and had the ultrasound confirmation

of gallstones in Sept. It took a long time to get the appt, but I

was hoping to have a few good results with my flushing. My GP said -

" you need your gallbladder out " .

You can imagine my surprise when it was all brushed under the carpet

by the specialist and he was more concerned with the colonoscopy. I

brought him back to the topic by asking about ways of getting rid of

the gallstones and he said they were no big problem for me now. come

back later if they are. He said that I would know if there were

problems because the pain would be so bad that I'd be on the floor

and it's worse than childbearing. I guess that he's experienced that

first hand. (Of course, I'm glad not to have to argue re:

gallbladder removal -Lucky me! )

I did try for a second ultra sound from him, but to no success. I

will now try to get my Gynie Doctor to give me one. And yes, I will

certainly need to seek a second opinion.

I still wonder how good this idea of colonoscopy is and what are the

risks? So if anybody has experience or knowledge.........

Suzanne

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