Guest guest Posted March 26, 2002 Report Share Posted March 26, 2002 Hi Welcome to the group! I'm glad that you've found some hope and confidence - sounds like you're on a real positive road. The forum at curezone is different from this group. Sometimes Agnes posts messages out here from there and vice versa, but if you specifically want yours to show up in both places you'd have to post them there and here. I'm not quite sure why both things exist, actually, but I'm sure there's some logic to it. As for doing the flush while on the liver diet - can you elaborate on why you think it wouldn't be a good idea? I'm not very knowledgeable about the liver diet, but I can't see why doing the flush would be a bad idea. I'm sure others will put in their .02 about that, though. Keep us posted, okay? in health, rachel~ teresa@... writes: > I am confused about something else - is this mailgroup the same as the forum > at curezone? Do I need to post only once to get a message in both places? I > will double up, so sorry if you see this twice! > > Thanks in advance, you people have given me hope where before I was feeling > quite desperate and literally scared to death about what was going on with > my body. > > The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it and ignorance may deride it, but in the end there it is. " Winston Churchill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2002 Report Share Posted March 27, 2002 I went to the liverdoctor site to look at the liver cleansing diet, but all I could find was reasons why a person would benefit from it - I didn't see the actual diet itself. So I still haven't figured out why the flush would be a problem in connection with this particular diet. But I do understand what you mean about the Epsom Salts taking their toll on your body. I've done the cleanse with and without them and had results both ways. So if the Epsom Salts are your main concern, then you maybe you could consider doing the flush without them while on this liver cleansing diet? Just a thought. Do you (or anyone) have a link that actually talks about what that liver cleansing diet is? Maybe I'm just dense and missed it on the liverdoctor site. It seemed to me that you'd have to buy the book to know what the diet is! And yes, I completely agree - if you trust yourself, you'll get it right. in health rachel~ In a message dated 3/27/02 4:47:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, teresa@... writes: > hi there, I was just thinking it may be a bad idea possibly, doing liver > cleansing diet and liver/gallbladder flush as it could be too much of a > *hit* for my body at once. The epsom salts are pretty much a big hit in > themselves, and I thought it might be more than a body could handle. > > I guess it is just one of those things where I will just see how I go with > - > if I trust myself I will get it right, anyway... aint that right!? > The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it and ignorance may deride it, but in the end there it is. " Winston Churchill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2002 Report Share Posted March 27, 2002 Thanks for the synopsis of the liver cleansing diet. I'll check to see if I can find the book locally and if not I'll probably order it. I'm already doing some of those things, so it shouldn't be too much of a transition if I wanted to give it a try. I know others have written of it and highly recommend it. Thanks again for describing it. in health, rachel~ teresa@... writes: > I do have the book, it's just a bit complex to tell you the whole diet! > > basically, no dairy, no caffeine, no red meat, no preservatives > lots of veges, cold pressed olive oil, a bit of chicken and fish, carrot > and > celery and beetroot juice in the morning along with lemon and water drink. > do this for eight weeks - I will be doing this, except for I will still > have > my tea with milk, and I hate beetroot juice! > gotta go placate the hubby now! goodnight! > The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it and ignorance may deride it, but in the end there it is. " Winston Churchill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2002 Report Share Posted March 27, 2002 >small green stones, probably about 100 throughout the day, but I didn't see >any of the large yellow ones. Do they float or do they disappear? Yellow, black and brown (or turquois, orange...!) stones should float as much as the greenies. Anyone else with opinions? The sinkers are the calcified stones, but a stone can be partially calcified. I'm not sure if the sinkers are always white or not. But you can have stones that sink. The great majority of stones coming out seems to float. And many stones could come from the liver rather than the gallbladder, it seems. Sometimes I have spontaneous mini-flushes outside of the oil/fruit flushes. They tend to produce partly different results. I suddenly passed a marble-sized black stone yesterday, along with flat pieces of white cholesterol (presumably). >On that, you people reminded me of the Liver Cleansing Diet which I had done >successfully before to lose weight, but it only lasted the eight weeks due >to my passion for dairy, tea and red meat. Now, I was wondering... I am >thinking of going back on this diet, but was wondering if it was ok to still >do the olive oil etc purge while on the diet, or would it upset things too >much? You can probably do the flush, but others will have to answer... >By the way, that website of Cabot's Liver Cleansing Diet is ><http://www.liverdoctor.com/.>http://www.liverdoctor.com/. I saw >people mention the website here, but not >actually give the address! I was thinking something similar for a while -- I even thanked one poster for posting this great link. Until I discovered that it's listed at the bottom of every message. Just scroll down the page you're reading until you find a list of links to other web sites! -- Helge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2002 Report Share Posted March 27, 2002 hi there, I was just thinking it may be a bad idea possibly, doing liver cleansing diet and liver/gallbladder flush as it could be too much of a *hit* for my body at once. The epsom salts are pretty much a big hit in themselves, and I thought it might be more than a body could handle. I guess it is just one of those things where I will just see how I go with - if I trust myself I will get it right, anyway... aint that right!? cheers -----Original Message----- rachel wrote... As for doing the flush while on the liver diet - can you elaborate on why you think it wouldn't be a good idea? I'm not very knowledgeable about the liver diet, but I can't see why doing the flush would be a bad idea. I'm sure others will put in their .02 about that, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2002 Report Share Posted March 27, 2002 , I do have the book, it's just a bit complex to tell you the whole diet! basically, no dairy, no caffeine, no red meat, no preservatives lots of veges, cold pressed olive oil, a bit of chicken and fish, carrot and celery and beetroot juice in the morning along with lemon and water drink. do this for eight weeks - I will be doing this, except for I will still have my tea with milk, and I hate beetroot juice! gotta go placate the hubby now! goodnight! cheers -----Original Message----- From: Rachd1961@... [mailto:Rachd1961@...] Sent: Wednesday, 27 March 2002 21:24 gallstones Subject: Re: Liver Cleanse and the Liver Cleansing Diet? I went to the liverdoctor site to look at the liver cleansing diet, but all I could find was reasons why a person would benefit from it - I didn't see the actual diet itself. So I still haven't figured out why the flush would be a problem in connection with this particular diet. But I do understand what you mean about the Epsom Salts taking their toll on your body. I've done the cleanse with and without them and had results both ways. So if the Epsom Salts are your main concern, then you maybe you could consider doing the flush without them while on this liver cleansing diet? Just a thought. Do you (or anyone) have a link that actually talks about what that liver cleansing diet is? Maybe I'm just dense and missed it on the liverdoctor site. It seemed to me that you'd have to buy the book to know what the diet is! And yes, I completely agree - if you trust yourself, you'll get it right. in health rachel~ In a message dated 3/27/02 4:47:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, teresa@... writes: > hi there, I was just thinking it may be a bad idea possibly, doing liver > cleansing diet and liver/gallbladder flush as it could be too much of a > *hit* for my body at once. The epsom salts are pretty much a big hit in > themselves, and I thought it might be more than a body could handle. > > I guess it is just one of those things where I will just see how I go with > - > if I trust myself I will get it right, anyway... aint that right!? > The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it and ignorance may deride it, but in the end there it is. " Winston Churchill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2002 Report Share Posted March 27, 2002 >I hate beetroot juice! I have been mixing beet root powder from AIM in my apple juice and it really tastes very good! I just got the RediBeets for the first time, and on the container it says have no more than 2 teasp. a day. I actually like the apple juice with it in it better than without. They say that a teasp. is equivilent to the juice of 1/2 lb. of beets. These are the same people that make barleygreen, etc. I don't sell this in a big way, just get it for myself and a few folks, but if anyone wants some, would be glad to help (please don't interpret this as a sales pitch, not my intention at all.) L. Meydrech, CN http://nutritionist.tripod.com " A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2002 Report Share Posted March 27, 2002 In a message dated 03/27/2002 10:55:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, new_man85@... writes: << I also take the AIM RediBeets (Powdered beet juice) and have noticed that this made a big difference. >> What kind of a difference? thanks, rachel~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2002 Report Share Posted March 27, 2002 This is not a sales pitch either. I also take the AIM RediBeets (Powdered beet juice) and have noticed that this made a big difference. 1/2 rounded tsp goes great mixed in my morning raw juice drink into which I also add 3 tbl of olive oil, 3 tbl of lecithin granules, plain yogurt, Kombucha tea, sea salt water, flax seed, cloves, cilantro, Dr. Cabots fiber, and a few other goodies. It all goes into the Vitamix except the oil which I put on right before I drink it. This has greatly enhanced the value of my liver flushes (4 to date). Vince >From: " L. Meydrech " <claudiameydrech@...> >Reply-gallstones ><gallstones > >Subject: Re: Liver Cleanse and the Liver Cleansing Diet? >Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:33:05 -0500 > > >I hate beetroot juice! > >I have been mixing beet root powder from AIM >in my apple juice and it really tastes very >good! I just got the RediBeets for the first >time, and on the container it says have no >more than 2 teasp. a day. I actually like the >apple juice with it in it better than without. >They say that a teasp. is equivilent to the >juice of 1/2 lb. of beets. These are the same >people that make barleygreen, etc. I don't sell >this in a big way, just get it for myself >and a few folks, but if anyone wants some, would >be glad to help (please don't interpret this >as a sales pitch, not my intention at all.) > > L. Meydrech, CN >http://nutritionist.tripod.com > " A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2002 Report Share Posted March 27, 2002 Wow, that sounds good...and I see you are a fellow Kombucha Tea drinker. I also have some of that, not a daily regimine yet, but do love it, and know it's good for the liver among other things. L. Meydrech, CN http://nutritionist.tripod.com " A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a ----- Original Message ----- From: " V. Richter " <new_man85@...> <gallstones > Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:47 AM Subject: Re: Liver Cleanse and the Liver Cleansing Diet? > This is not a sales pitch either. I also take the AIM RediBeets (Powdered > beet juice) and have noticed that this made a big difference. 1/2 rounded > tsp goes great mixed in my morning raw juice drink into which I also add 3 > tbl of olive oil, 3 tbl of lecithin granules, plain yogurt, Kombucha tea, > sea salt water, flax seed, cloves, cilantro, Dr. Cabots fiber, and a few > other goodies. It all goes into the Vitamix except the oil which I put on > right before I drink it. This has greatly enhanced the value of my liver > flushes (4 to date). > > Vince Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2002 Report Share Posted March 27, 2002 Yes ma'am. I think Kombucha tea is much better for the liver than we realize. It, like anything else, is not a silver bullet with which nothing else is needed, but I use it as an important part of my total regimin. Be well Vince >From: " L. Meydrech " <claudiameydrech@...> >Reply-gallstones ><gallstones > >Subject: Re: Liver Cleanse and the Liver Cleansing Diet? >Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:36:18 -0500 > >Wow, that sounds good...and I see you are a fellow >Kombucha Tea drinker. I also have some of that, not >a daily regimine yet, but do love it, and know it's good >for the liver among other things. > > L. Meydrech, CN >http://nutritionist.tripod.com > " A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a > >----- Original Message ----- >From: " V. Richter " <new_man85@...> ><gallstones > >Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:47 AM >Subject: Re: Liver Cleanse and the Liver Cleansing Diet? > > > > This is not a sales pitch either. I also take the AIM RediBeets >(Powdered > > beet juice) and have noticed that this made a big difference. 1/2 >rounded > > tsp goes great mixed in my morning raw juice drink into which I also add >3 > > tbl of olive oil, 3 tbl of lecithin granules, plain yogurt, Kombucha >tea, > > sea salt water, flax seed, cloves, cilantro, Dr. Cabots fiber, and a few > > other goodies. It all goes into the Vitamix except the oil which I put >on > > right before I drink it. This has greatly enhanced the value of my >liver > > flushes (4 to date). > > > > Vince > > > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2002 Report Share Posted March 28, 2002 More regularity and less full, sluggish feeling after big meals. Less irritability and emotional effects which seems like toxins are being eliminated quicker and more efficiently. Additionally, more subtle differentces which are hard to describe, but knowing my body I can tell. Vince >From: Rachd1961@... >Reply-gallstones >gallstones >Subject: Re: Liver Cleanse and the Liver Cleansing Diet? >Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 15:31:12 EST > >In a message dated 03/27/2002 10:55:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, >new_man85@... writes: > ><< I also take the AIM RediBeets (Powdered > beet juice) and have noticed that this made a big difference. >> > >What kind of a difference? >thanks, > rachel~ _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2002 Report Share Posted March 29, 2002 wow, that's some drink! when you say it made a big difference, what do you mean? how did it help? and Dr Cabot's fiber - do you mean the LSA (Linseed Sunflower and Almonds) or psyllium? When last I went on the LCD I wanted to put apple juice in with the carrot/celery/parsley drink that she recommends in the mornings (to make it a bit more palatable), but was told by Dr Cabot's staff (I sent them an email) that this was detrimental... not sure why though. cheers -----Original Message----- From: V. Richter [mailto:new_man85@...] Sent: Thursday, 28 March 2002 02:47 gallstones Subject: Re: Liver Cleanse and the Liver Cleansing Diet? This is not a sales pitch either. I also take the AIM RediBeets (Powdered beet juice) and have noticed that this made a big difference. 1/2 rounded tsp goes great mixed in my morning raw juice drink into which I also add 3 tbl of olive oil, 3 tbl of lecithin granules, plain yogurt, Kombucha tea, sea salt water, flax seed, cloves, cilantro, Dr. Cabots fiber, and a few other goodies. It all goes into the Vitamix except the oil which I put on right before I drink it. This has greatly enhanced the value of my liver flushes (4 to date). Vince >From: " L. Meydrech " <claudiameydrech@...> >Reply-gallstones ><gallstones > >Subject: Re: Liver Cleanse and the Liver Cleansing Diet? >Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:33:05 -0500 > > >I hate beetroot juice! > >I have been mixing beet root powder from AIM >in my apple juice and it really tastes very >good! I just got the RediBeets for the first >time, and on the container it says have no >more than 2 teasp. a day. I actually like the >apple juice with it in it better than without. >They say that a teasp. is equivilent to the >juice of 1/2 lb. of beets. These are the same >people that make barleygreen, etc. I don't sell >this in a big way, just get it for myself >and a few folks, but if anyone wants some, would >be glad to help (please don't interpret this >as a sales pitch, not my intention at all.) > > L. Meydrech, CN >http://nutritionist.tripod.com > " A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Learn more from our experience, more then 200 liver flush stories: http:///messages/gallstones-testimonials Liver Cleanse Recipe: http://www.CureZone.com/cleanse/liver/ Liver Flush FAQ: http://curezone.com/forums/forum.asp?ForumID=73 Images: http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/cleanse_flush/ http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/intrahepatic_stones/ To unsubscribe, sned blank e-mail to: gallstones-unsubscribe and then reply to confirmation message! To Post message: gallstones Subscribe: gallstones-subscribe Web Sites for more information: http://CureZone.com/gallstones/ http://www.liverdoctor.com/ http://www.sensiblehealth.com/ http://www.cyberpog.com/health/index.htm http://www.relfe.com/gall_stone_cleanse.html http://www.cleansingorsurgery.com/ Group page: gallstones To change your subscription to digest send blank e-mail to: gallstones-digest To change your subscription to NO-MAIL send blank e-mail to: gallstones-nomail To change your subscription to NORMAL send blank e-mail to: gallstones-normal You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the Gallstones group on 's groups. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself! Have a nice day ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2002 Report Share Posted March 29, 2002 ah - if I had only just waited till I had waded through my mails... my question would have been answered! ;-) cheers -----Original Message----- More regularity and less full, sluggish feeling after big meals. Less irritability and emotional effects which seems like toxins are being eliminated quicker and more efficiently. Additionally, more subtle differentces which are hard to describe, but knowing my body I can tell. Vince Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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