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I recently (Christmas) started having gall bladder attacks. Didn't

know what it was until the second one a month later. Saw a Dr, went

in for a cat scan (grr expensive). Showed nothing. Immediately

started liver, gall bladder support; peppermint oil, milk thistle,

dandelion tea, lots of fruits and veggies (in spite of an all ready

helathy diet). I have had NO other symptoms, but pain. Had another

attack two weeks later, went on antibiotics and got pain meds (since

there were no stones, Ha!) Had another attack a week later landing me

in ER, yeah drugs!! Ultrasound found stones. That night did the ES,

olive oil cleanse and got out 3-400 beebee to peas sized stones,

because they wanted to schedule me for surgery.

I just completed my second cleanse today and only got a few beebee

sized stones and lots of chaff. Here are my questions...Hulda says

keep cleansing till you get 2000. With mine so small, do you think I

should continue? How do I count chaff? All green by the way. What

actually causes the stones? If the bile is for fat purposes, why

would excess fat be a problem? Is it better for the bile to flow with

each meal (ensure fat with meal)? Or is it better to only have a

little fat in the diet? Do types of fat make a difference? I only use

olive oil, and butter in my diet. I do have packaged foods on

occasion, but generally eat whole grains, low meat, and fruits and

veggies. I am not perfect and do allow myself treats, but I do not

fit the typical female type presenting with gall bladder. I am tall,

barely overweight, noone I know would say I need to lose weight.

Although, I have lost about 8 pounds since I am afraid to eat

anything but fruits and veggies. When I have tested my gall bladder

to see what happens--Taco Bell will bring on an attack. LOL! When do

I consider myself better and what is the best way to eat and still

enjoy life? Thanks and add anything I didn't cover. DM

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DM,

Once again, I'll tell you more about me and maybe some questions will

be answered.

It is good to keep eating and making your gb contract and send the

bile down to the gastointestinal area for digestion. Once the gb is

contracting, the bile and floating stones will move to the mouth of

the gb as well to come out. If it is too big because it is

cholesterol calcified (hard) it will stop at the mouth of the gb and

not pass out into the 4mm duct. The gb will inflate as it is trying

to push the bile out of the gb and colic pain will result until the

gb relaxes and the stone(s) drop back out of the mouth and falls back

out of the way. This is my case. I have eliminated over 2,000 stones

with 7 cleanses of the softer, liver, cholesterol stones. Along with

a lot of sludge, gunk, sandy little grainy pre-forming stones, etc.

I still have a 1 cm calcified 'stubborn' stone that causes colic in

the middle of the night if I have eaten a heavy or fatty late night

meal. I have to continue to flush to get this one out and I feel then

that my pain will definitely stop for good. Once it's out I

can 'maintanance flush' twice a year because once a body has started

to produce stones and cause colic, it may very well happen again.

Please tell me what size and the number of stones that your

ultrasound shows.

As long as you have colic you should continue on the flushing

program. Smaller stones this time doesn't mean you won't have big

stones on the next one. Years of toxins and waste are moving forward

out of your liver and gb on each flush.

You can't count chaff or sludge. You can monitor the amount on each

flush is all. Lots of sludge, medium sludge, etc.

Types of fat intake definitely makes a difference. Cholesterol in

bile stagnating is what can form stones. Any ingredient in bile that

is in excess or missing in the bile can cause problems. Thinning the

bile helps to stop stones forming. Olive oil is the best oil to use

in foods and it's the only one I use.

You can eat more than just fruits and veggies. Fish, chicken and even

some red meats at times can be digested easy by my body. Avoiding all

fun foods is not fun but your diet should be changed and monitored

more now that you have a gb condition you want to improve on.

Certain foods, I've learned, will 'trigger' a tighter feeling or pain

in my gallbladder. I watch what I eat now while I am in this process

of cleansing. I still eat maybe 10% instead of say 40% of the junk

foods or 'fun' foods as before. It takes time to change your diet but

your overall feeling of well-being will improve and you will like it

more. French fries are about the worse thing for me to eat. Also,

eating smaller meals say 5 times a day instead of 2 big meals helps

my body digest food easier. More water in my diet helps, etc.

Avoiding the very fatty meals at night (or the time when you

experience the most pain) will help you live with the problem while

you are in the process of eliminating the problem with a cleansing

program that could last months. It's going to really have to be a

lifestyle change in your diet in order for you to recondition your

digestive system and keep the organs in your body.

I hope this helps answer some more questions. There are a lot of

people in here with the same experience as you and I'm sure they will

be offering other suggestions and information as well.

Also, http://www,curezone.com is packed with information and pictures

about the gb and cleansing.

Be Healthy,

Barry.

> I recently (Christmas) started having gall bladder attacks. Didn't

> know what it was until the second one a month later. Saw a Dr, went

> in for a cat scan (grr expensive). Showed nothing. Immediately

> started liver, gall bladder support; peppermint oil, milk thistle,

> dandelion tea, lots of fruits and veggies (in spite of an all ready

> helathy diet). I have had NO other symptoms, but pain. Had another

> attack two weeks later, went on antibiotics and got pain meds

(since

> there were no stones, Ha!) Had another attack a week later landing

me

> in ER, yeah drugs!! Ultrasound found stones. That night did the ES,

> olive oil cleanse and got out 3-400 beebee to peas sized stones,

> because they wanted to schedule me for surgery.

>

> I just completed my second cleanse today and only got a few beebee

> sized stones and lots of chaff. Here are my questions...Hulda says

> keep cleansing till you get 2000. With mine so small, do you think

I

> should continue? How do I count chaff? All green by the way. What

> actually causes the stones? If the bile is for fat purposes, why

> would excess fat be a problem? Is it better for the bile to flow

with

> each meal (ensure fat with meal)? Or is it better to only have a

> little fat in the diet? Do types of fat make a difference? I only

use

> olive oil, and butter in my diet. I do have packaged foods on

> occasion, but generally eat whole grains, low meat, and fruits and

> veggies. I am not perfect and do allow myself treats, but I do not

> fit the typical female type presenting with gall bladder. I am

tall,

> barely overweight, noone I know would say I need to lose weight.

> Although, I have lost about 8 pounds since I am afraid to eat

> anything but fruits and veggies. When I have tested my gall bladder

> to see what happens--Taco Bell will bring on an attack. LOL! When

do

> I consider myself better and what is the best way to eat and still

> enjoy life? Thanks and add anything I didn't cover. DM