Round 1 nearly over, need dose/mixing help.

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone. I will finish round one tonight. Have been giving my

30lb. son approx. 15 mg. DMSA every 4 hours.

My question is this.....Since I have the DMSA from VRP, it comes

in 100 mg capsules. This means I have to divide one tiny capsule

into sixths to get one dose. And one capsule will last about 24 hours

worthof dosing.

Is it okay if I mix one whole capsule in 6 tsp. of pear juice, and

then just get out a tsp. at a time per dose? I am giving my son his

medication via syringe, just squirt in his mouth with a bit of pear

juice. But mixing in 1/6th of the capsule into a small amount of juice

is difficult. Was thinking that if I mixed the whole capsule into 6

tsp. it would be easier to just pull out one tsp. each time I want to

dose. Would this be okay? Any contraindications to pre-mixing into

pear juice for up to 24 hours??

THanks.

By the way, the only side-effects I have noticed with this first

round is that my son has had a sweaty head. Otherwise, everything

seems okay.

[Guest guest]

nelsoneyes@... wrote:

> - What is VRP? Is it cheaper than Kirkman's? We've been using

> their

> flavored DMSA in 50 mg. caps, so each 100 mg. dose is two caps. One

> jar only

> lasts about 1 1/2 rounds and get pretty pricey. I'd like to find a

> " tiny 100

> mg. cap.:

>

>

>

,

was the original poster of that info.

DMSA 45 capsules (100mg) $39.95 +$5 for shipping

VRP=Vitamin Research Products www.vrp.com 1-800-877-2447

[Guest guest]

Hi all!

I am new to this listserv and just started chelating my 7 year old

daughter yesterday. She is getting 200mg. DMSA every 8 hour for 3days

on/11 off. She is 56 lbs. I have a few questions that I hope you all

can answer: She is able to communciate her needs but is not

conversational.

Are there any advantages to a 4-hr dosing schedule vs an 8-hour

schedule??

Are long will it take before I can expect to see any results?

At what stage do I begin using ALA?

How often should I have her urine tested? Should this be the first urine

in the morning or after her dose of DMSA?

Is this the right doseage for her weight? (Her doctor has only just

started chelating children so I just want to be sure)

Have any of you started chelation with a child of 7 and had some good

results??

Thanks, in advance!

paula

[Guest guest]

Hi a, welcome,

>Are there any advantages to a 4-hr dosing schedule vs an 8-hour

>schedule??

I'm glad relayed her experience. Quite a few parents have

reported icky results with 8-hour and okay with 4-hour. Some have

no problems on 8-hour. Your mileage may vary.

You can read more about it here:

/files/ANDY_INDEX

Look in the section about " chelation schedules and dosages " .

read some of the items about " good and bad chelation schedules " .

As you will notice, Andy has a rather distinct opinion about this

particular matter. Also, this topic is discussed here almost

all the time--- it is one of the few 'always popular' topics

on the list.

You can also read this info regarding 4-vs-8 hour dosing:

/files/POLLS

best,

Moria

[mercury toxic adult, doing chelation on mySELF, no kids;

I have not used 8-hour myself-- so can't comment about

personal experience on this.]

[Guest guest]

>Hi everyone. I will finish round one tonight. Have been giving my

>30lb. son approx. 15 mg. DMSA every 4 hours.

>My question is this.....Since I have the DMSA from VRP, it comes

>in 100 mg capsules. This means I have to divide one tiny capsule

>into sixths to get one dose. And one capsule will last about 24 hours

>worthof dosing.

>Is it okay if I mix one whole capsule in 6 tsp. of pear juice, and

>then just get out a tsp. at a time per dose? I am giving my son his

>medication via syringe, just squirt in his mouth with a bit of pear

>juice. But mixing in 1/6th of the capsule into a small amount of juice

>is difficult. Was thinking that if I mixed the whole capsule into 6

>tsp. it would be easier to just pull out one tsp. each time I want to

>dose. Would this be okay? Any contraindications to pre-mixing into

>pear juice for up to 24 hours??

Hi ,

According to Andy (as I understand him anyhow),

if mixed in advance (not for immediate consumption) then DMSA should

be mixed in some reasonably acidic (tart or sour tasting) juice. Acidic

fruit juices (lemonade, limeade, or pineapple juice for example).

I don't know that pear would qualify. Does your son like OJ?

Andy has also said to limit the number of doses that are premixed

and then use them up in a reasonable amount of time. But I'm not

sure how many doses this would be, or how long is a reasonable

time.

I actually have a different suggestion. This one will not help

you immediately (LOL): I suggest that you call VRP and TELL THEM what

sort of doses you would prefer to buy from them. I have told them

that I think they should consider selling SMALLER doses --

say 50 mg and 25 mg. Maybe 15 and 20 mg would be better. Or even

10 and 15?? I think it would probably cost a little more (due

to the packaging issues) for the same amount of DMSA (I don't

know about this sort of thing). I explained that lots of parents are

chelating KIDS and need small amounts. Anyway, if --oh--- 10 or 20

parents called VRP about this, I would guess it would have

some effect. I suggest telling them that you are a customer

(if you are!), that you are chelating your CHILD, and the

SPECIFIC dose you would like to buy capsules of (e.g. 10 mg,

20 mg, etc).

I'm sure they are perfectly capable of doing this, and I know

of no reason that they would not be receptive. A recent catalog

which arrived at my house advertises a new higher dose ALA that

they are selling. (I complained to them about it, explaining that

this is more dangerous if people take it not knowing about its

chelating properties, have amalgams, etc. To my great awe, the

rep I was talking to understood what I was talking about.)

I'm sure this sort of suggestion would have the most impact if

it comes from people who REALLY WILL buy the revised product

(which I won't).

best,

Moria

p.s. I think the mixing-6-tsps-then-using-1-tsp-per-dose is

okay. It is about all you can do. Try to get it to " mix in " though,

and maybe stir it up for a sec before measuring out the 1 tsp?

The only issue would be trying to get it " even " . So, you just

do your best.