pain after gallbladder removed (6months ago)

[Guest guest]

I had an attack two days ago that was exactly like the attacks I had

before the surgery. How can I have gallbladder attacks with no

gallbladder? What is it? If anyone has any help so it won't happen

again I would really appreciate it. I've done 4 flushes, I'm 5

months pregnant and will do one while pregnant if it will help.

Thanks, Heidi

[Guest guest]

>>>>>>>>>>.I had an attack two days ago that was exactly like the attacks I

had

before the surgery. How can I have gallbladder attacks with no

gallbladder? What is it? If anyone has any help so it won't happen

again I would really appreciate it. I've done 4 flushes, I'm 5

months pregnant and will do one while pregnant if it will help.

Thanks, Heidi<<<<<<<<<<<

This is not really all that uncommon of a situation for people who have had

their gallbladder removed. The removal of the gallbladder really doesn't

get to the root of the problem of which caused the gallbladder to have a

problem in the first place. It is looked upon as just a useful storage sack

for a

concentrated bile of which the liver is providing. The liver is often

overlooked by most doctors as the organ from which the pain individuals are

experiencing is coming during a gallbladder attack. They then see it as

convenient to remove it but, then too, some people, really,,,,,, suffer

after a removal of the gallbladder;

http://www.integritytech.com/gall.html

My worst gallbladder attack wasn't even a gallbladder attack, but had the

same symptoms excepting I didn't have any stones according to the ultrasound

that was done! I found out my problem occurred because I wasn't getting

enough of the right Essential Fatty Acids for my liver's good health. I had

stopped eating all foods containing any fat and this in turn caused my liver

to be damaged by that failure. The reason I avoided taking in fats is

because I was trying to keep from having another gallbladder attack. Go

figure! I felt like it was dammed if you do and dammed if you don't!

I found out after reading Dr. Cabot's " The Liver Cleansing Diet " that the

best thing you can do for your liver, which could be fatty, and the

problem you're feeling could be because of that or bile stones in the liver,

is to feed it correctly. When the liver is fed the right foods it will start

working the way it's suppose to do and will help it clear out the fats from

the body and from the liver, if it is fatty.

It is very important to also realize that with the gallbladder removed that

the liver must be given greater care and consideration. A lot of people can

have the gallbladder removed and not really have to care for it as much as

some others. However, for those who's digestive system has been compromised

by the loss of this important organ it becomes necessary to understand what

foods are going to help the liver deal with what it does in producing around

a quart or two of bile. This bile needs to have someplace to go because it

appears that it doesn't stop flowing in some without the regulating capacity

of the gallbladder telling it to stop for a time. It appears that it just

keeps dripping out bile because there is no signal telling the liver to stop

producing it.

The end result for a lot of people is that they tend to suffer with diarrhea

and other intestinal pain. The best way to deal with this is to make sure

that food that is high in fiber is eaten throughout the day and not just

the normal three times a day that we've become accustom. It would also help

to have more essential fatty acids being obtained by quality oils, which can

be obtained from vegetables and nuts as well as the various supplements.

This gives the bile something to emulsify but being a better fat it can be

used by the liver to make a better bile.

The intake of soluble and insoluble fiber will certainly help in dealing

with the continuous flow of bile from the liver. The fiber will absorb the

bile and it can then be transported from the body much quicker.

This website has some useful information on the liver and my help you in

seeing some things to do to deal with your situation.

http://www.lifebalm.com/ailments/liver.html

Dale

[Guest guest]

>>>>>>>>>>.I had an attack two days ago that was exactly like the attacks I

had

before the surgery. How can I have gallbladder attacks with no

gallbladder? What is it? If anyone has any help so it won't happen

again I would really appreciate it. I've done 4 flushes, I'm 5

months pregnant and will do one while pregnant if it will help.

Thanks, Heidi<<<<<<<<<<<

This is not really all that uncommon of a situation for people who have had

their gallbladder removed. The removal of the gallbladder really doesn't

get to the root of the problem of which caused the gallbladder to have a

problem in the first place. It is looked upon as just a useful storage sack

for a concentrated bile of which the liver is providing. The liver is often

overlooked by most doctors as the organ from which the pain that individuals

are

experiencing is coming during a gallbladder attack. They see it as

convenient to remove it but, then too, some people, really,,,,,, suffer

after a removal of the gallbladder;

http://www.integritytech.com/gall.html

My worst gallbladder attack wasn't even a gallbladder attack, but had the

same symptoms excepting I didn't have any stones according to the ultrasound

that was done! I found out my problem occurred because I wasn't getting

enough of the right Essential Fatty Acids for my liver's good health. I had

stopped eating all foods containing any fat and this in turn caused my liver

to be damaged by that failure. The reason I avoided taking in fats is

because I was trying to keep from having another gallbladder attack. Go

figure! I felt like it was dammed if you do and dammed if you don't!

I found out after reading Dr. Cabot's " The Liver Cleansing Diet " that the

best thing you can do for your liver, which could be fatty, and the

problem you're feeling could be because of that or bile stones in the liver,

is to feed it correctly. When the liver is fed the right foods it will start

working the way it's suppose to do and will help it clear out the fats from

the body and from the liver too, if it is also fatty.

It is very important to also realize that with the gallbladder removed that

the liver must be given greater care and consideration. A lot of people can

have the gallbladder removed and not really have to care for it as much as

some others. However, for those who's digestive system has been compromised

by the loss of this important organ it becomes necessary to understand what

foods are going to help the liver deal with what it does in producing around

a quart or two of bile. This bile needs to have someplace to go because it

appears that it doesn't stop flowing in some without the regulating capacity

of the gallbladder telling it to stop for a time. It appears that it just

keeps dripping out bile because there is no signal telling the liver to stop

producing it.

The end result for a lot of people is that they tend to suffer with diarrhea

and other intestinal pain. The best way to deal with this is to make sure

that food that is high in fiber is eaten throughout the day and not just

the normal three times a day that we've become accustom. It would also help

to have more essential fatty acids being obtained by quality oils, which can

be obtained from vegetables and nuts as well as the various supplements.

This gives the bile something to emulsify but being a better fat it can be

used by the liver to make a better bile to get out the other bad fats that

have been stored there.

The intake of soluble and insoluble fiber will certainly help in dealing

with the continuous flow of bile from the liver. The soluble fiber will

absorb the

bile and it can then be transported from the body much quicker.

This website has some useful information on the liver and my help you in

seeing some things to do to deal with your situation.

http://www.lifebalm.com/ailments/liver.html

Dale

[Guest guest]

adriennelynn1@... writes:

> Agnes has posted advice about doing it while pregnant, and you might find it

> in the archives.

>

Here's a link that Agnes sent previously that's a forum about cleansing while

pregnant/breastfeeding. Hope this helps.

<A

HREF= " http://www.curezone.com/forums/forum.asp?ForumID=60 " >http://www.curezone.c\

om/forums/forum.asp?ForumID=60</A>

in health,

rachel~

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it and ignorance may deride

it, but in the end there it is. " Winston Churchill

[Guest guest]

Hi Heidi,

I continued to have the same kind of pain/attacks immediately following GB

surgery and did the liver cleanse two weeks after. My pain was centrally

located, just below my sternum. Most likely, stones were stuck in my common bile

duct. It took two liver cleanses before my symptoms completely subsided. You

didn't state whether or not you did the liver cleanse prior to having the

attacks or whether you did them to try and alleviate your attacks. It's likely

that your liver is most likely full of stones, and as it secretes bile, your

liver is trying to pass them. They may be stuck in your common bile duct. I had

my first GB attack 9 years ago when I was pregnant (I didn't know that it was a

GB attack at the time). There's something about being pregnant that correlates

with GB attacks and pain (I'm not sure why.) I'd encourage you to do the liver

cleanse if possible. Agnes has posted advice about doing it while pregnant, and

you might find it in the archives.

Adrienne

echies7 <echies@...> wrote: I had an attack two days ago that was

exactly like the attacks I had

before the surgery. How can I have gallbladder attacks with no

gallbladder? What is it? If anyone has any help so it won't happen

again I would really appreciate it. I've done 4 flushes, I'm 5

months pregnant and will do one while pregnant if it will help.

Thanks, Heidi

[Guest guest]

Heidi,

Colic attacks after surgery can be caused by acouple of different

things. I've heard that people feel colic after surgery as a sort of

replay from the past. Like a sympathy attack. This is hard to believe

if it feels exactly like a past attack and especially if it is food

related. The other cause could be that the bile dripping down into

your common duct has formed smaller crystalic stones (or grainy hard

sandy stuff), or also a blockage of bile-cholesterol sludge can block

the common duct and cause pain in the same general area as the gb.

This sounds more logical. Doing another flush as soon as possible

would be a good idea to try. If you still have the pain you may be

better to also get it checked out.

Good luck,

Barry.

> I had an attack two days ago that was exactly like the attacks I

had

> before the surgery. How can I have gallbladder attacks with no

> gallbladder? What is it? If anyone has any help so it won't happen

> again I would really appreciate it. I've done 4 flushes, I'm 5

> months pregnant and will do one while pregnant if it will help.

> Thanks, Heidi

[Guest guest]

>>

How can I have gallbladder attacks with no

gallbladder? <<

(Behind on my mail, sorry.)

One question: Did you have a cholangiogram?? If you did not, then there is

very possible a stone (or more) in your bile duct, and you will continue to

have the same type of pain. If your surgeon did not do this procedure

during surgery, then he was knowingly leaving you open to this possibility.

Debra

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