Re: Interesting story

September 13, 1999

Tara,

You start on Day 1 of your next cycle...right, everyone?

Take care,

Krista

September 13, 1999

I think that this is amazing...I have some questions, though. Maybe you all

can put your two cents in!

I am so glad that they are all doing okay, and am thankful that his location

wasn't discovered earlier. Women who are diagnosed with an abdominal ectopic

are supposed to be given the choice of bedrest to see if the pregnancy can

survive until the 6th month (when it can be birthed through c-section). This

is also considering that the woman survives, too.

Okay, aren't all eggs fertilized in the fallopian tube? I don't know why I

consider this significant, but doesn't it seem like the story implies that

the others were fertilized in the uterus? The only reason I bring this up is

that if people think that ONLY ectopics are fertilized in the tube, they may

consider ectopics (the baby itself) to be malformed in the first place.

Maybe this is paranoia, I just don't know.

Also, this doesn't really make it clear that he wasn't in the tube...he was

in the abdomen. My friend in England said that he was on top of the uterus,

which would explain the " Ronan was blocking the usual caesarean entrance to

the womb " and why they didn't realize that he wasn't in the uterus! U/s

don't show 3-D...

I hope that this doesn't seem like I am " trashing " the story! I AM NOT! I

really wanted Tara to show this to us all. While it doesn't make our

situations any easier, one the whole, it does show that an ectopic CAN be

(and is) a real baby! Thank you, Tara for giving us this! Although none of

us have had an abdominal ectopic (only tubal and ovarian), I hope that there

are more stories like this of survival, life, and happiness in the future!

Take care,

Krista

September 13, 1999

Tara,

Did you mean that sometimes the egg can be fertilized in the uterus? After

the egg has floated all the way down the tube? I know with blocked tubes

(especially hydrosalpinx, when the fimbriated end of the tube is closed) an

egg can free float in the abdomen and sperm (the tricky little suckers) can

wedge themselves out of a blocked tube. This can be one way that an

abdominal ectopic forms. My friend in England said that she had some more

information on the story, and will get it to me soon. As soon as I get it, I

will forward it to you all.

I just had an idea, and this falls under my " ways to prevent ectopics " theory

(for those of you with whom I have not shared this brilliant idea-lol-I would

be happy to). If they could use a sophisticated u/s to see where the egg is,

a woman with a past history of ectopic, could attempt conception then. Now

this doesn't mean that an embryo won't float back up into a tube, but it

would cut down on the chance of ectopic by probably over 75%! Now all we

need is a Mad Scientist to work on this for us...Todd is looking into it!

I was told (by my RE nurse) that the first day of your cycle is the first day

that you bleed-as long as it is before 4:30 P.M. on that day. If it is after

4:30 P.M., the next day is DOC1. Hope this helps!

Take care,

Krista

September 13, 1999

I think ideally the fertilized egg travels thru the tube to the uterus.

(duh). However, it is my understanding that sometimes they are

fertilized in the tube and other times they are already fertilized

before they reach the tube. It depends where the egg is at the stage

it comes into contact with the sperm - what stage of ovulation you are

at. So, does this mean there is a better point during ovulation to try

to get the 2 to meet? I hope that makes sense. Oh, and not to appear

dense, but does the first day of the new cycle mean the day blood first

appears?

Tara

ride710-@... wrote:

original article:/group/ectopicpregnancy/?start=1

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> I think that this is amazing...I have some questions, though. Maybe

you all

> can put your two cents in!

>

> I am so glad that they are all doing okay, and am thankful that his

location

> wasn't discovered earlier. Women who are diagnosed with an abdominal

ectopic

> are supposed to be given the choice of bedrest to see if the

pregnancy can

> survive until the 6th month (when it can be birthed through

c-section). This

> is also considering that the woman survives, too.

>

> Okay, aren't all eggs fertilized in the fallopian tube? I don't know

why I

> consider this significant, but doesn't it seem like the story implies

that

> the others were fertilized in the uterus? The only reason I bring

this up is

> that if people think that ONLY ectopics are fertilized in the tube,

they may

> consider ectopics (the baby itself) to be malformed in the first

place.

> Maybe this is paranoia, I just don't know.

>

> Also, this doesn't really make it clear that he wasn't in the

tube...he was

> in the abdomen. My friend in England said that he was on top of the

uterus,

> which would explain the " Ronan was blocking the usual caesarean

entrance to

> the womb " and why they didn't realize that he wasn't in the uterus!

U/s

> don't show 3-D...

>

> I hope that this doesn't seem like I am " trashing " the story! I AM

NOT! I

> really wanted Tara to show this to us all. While it doesn't make our

> situations any easier, one the whole, it does show that an ectopic

CAN be

> (and is) a real baby! Thank you, Tara for giving us this! Although

none of

> us have had an abdominal ectopic (only tubal and ovarian), I hope

that there

> are more stories like this of survival, life, and happiness in the

future!

>

> Take care,

>

> Krista

September 13, 1999

Krista,

I'm not sure where fertilization occurs. I had a great reference on the web but

of course cannot find it now!!!!! I do know that it can be fertilized in one

tube but become ectopic in the other b/c it passes thru the abdominal wall to

the other tube rather than continuing its natural route. Lycos gave me this

info. I'll have to try to search tonight for that other info. You know how the

net is - one minute there the next minute gone. Do we have any nurses in our

group? They would be our best guide.

Ways to prevent ectopic - what I read earlier got me thinking the same thing.

If the egg could be found at its optimum location and then fertilized would that

help? Obsessed aren't I? Well I'm not sure if I asked earlier but we were kind

of careless last night and I'm only 2nd cycle off bcp. Should I worry???

(Stupid ? since you all know I'll worry anyway!!) Keep of posted w/ Todd's

research!!!!

Ta