Re: first report of the radical experiment :)

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Hi ,

I'm really impressed! Great thinking! You were brave to try it too (No?),

because I suppose your attack could have gotten worse, not better, depending

maybe on the amount of bile already in your gallbladder and liver. Adrienne

Rachd1961@... wrote: Okay folks - you know I had the gb attack last night

and decided to go for it

and do the oil/juice mix in the middle of it. Well, here's the first

report from the first BM of the day. 24 stones of varying sizes. (yes, I

did actually count them this time.) There might have possibly been more, but

to be honest I didn't really feel like poking around in the colander too much

since it was a regular BM.

I'll keep you posted on whatever may appear later on!!

in health

rachel~

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it and ignorance may deride

it, but in the end there it is. " Winston Churchill

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--- In gallstones@y..., Adrienne McLaughlin <adriennelynn1@y...>

wrote:

> Hi ,

> I'm really impressed! Great thinking! You were brave to try it

too (No?), because I suppose your attack could have gotten worse, not

better, depending maybe on the amount of bile already in your

gallbladder and liver. Adrienne

Well, that raises one of the very questions I've been thinking about

lately. Could it have made it worse? If the gallbladder is a

storage pouch for the bile and the gallbladder is contracting but

blocked by a stone - how could the introduction of the oil make

things any worse? I'm genuinely asking the question because I

really want to thoroughly understand the whole process.

The gallbladder, from what I've read, holds about a cup of bile. The

liver is constantly producing bile and dripping it into the

gallbladder, but it isn't like there would all of a sudden be a huge

amount of bile flushing INTO the gallbladder. During an attack it's

all about the bile going OUT of the gallbladder. If the oil causes

the gallbladder to contract when it is dormant, then what would it do

when the gallbladder is already contracting? If another element of

the oil is that it lubricates, then it would seem that the

introduction of oil would be a good thing for the bile ducts when the

gallbladder is already contracting and would aid in the removal of

the stone that's in the way.

It's just a theory. Obviously last night it worked for me and I'm

rid of two dozen more stones this morning as a result. But whether

that was by luck or logic - remains to be seen!

in health,

rachel~

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Hill

Okay folks - you know I had the gb attack last night and decided to go for it

and do the oil/juice mix in the middle of it. Well, here's the first

report from the first BM of the day. 24 stones of varying sizes. (yes, I

did actually count them this time.) There might have possibly been more, but

to be honest I didn't really feel like poking around in the colander too much

since it was a regular BM.

I'll keep you posted on whatever may appear later on!!

in health

rachel

" People are like stain glass windows; they sparkle and shine when the sun is

out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there

is alight within. " -Kubler Ross

" Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that

followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. "

Holy Bible

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--- In gallstones@y..., Adrienne McLaughlin <adriennelynn1@y...>

wrote:

>> I'm not sure about your idea that the oil aided lubrication of the

bile ducts, because the oil bypasses that whole system, and I don't

know if it can be absorbed quickly enough to be of that kind of

benefit during an attack.

> Adrienne

Well, that's why I said it was a hunch. How long does it take, then,

for oil to be absorbed? Does anyone know?

It's possible that it was a total coincidence that last night's

gallbladder attack ended as quickly as it did. It's likely that it

had somethign to do with the stretching that I did. (I find that the

pain is lessened if I either bend over forward or backward as far as

I can.) It's possible that I just dislodged the stone that way and

it fell back in or moved on through the duct. There's just no way of

knowing and all i can do is share my experience and throw thoughts

out there.

Remember, too, that my situation is quite mild in comparison to most

of the stories written out here, so my attacks are nothing compared

to what many out here have endured. I think it's good to take my

comments in that context.

in health,

rachel~

[Guest guest]

,

Adrienne is probably right about the oil not immediately lubing up

the stones. But the fact that you drank oil with your attack has

resulted in 25 stones coming out the next morning. Without the oil,

your pain may have dissappeared and nothing from your gallbladder may

have came out. Who knows? At least while you were having an attack,

you aided the process with a flush of oil. Hopeful this removed what

was causing your original pain and blockage. Time will tell. Like

you've stated, flexing may have dropped the stone(s) back out of the

mouth of the gb or it could have helped to pass them into the cystic

duct leading to the common duct. Ultrasound would be interesting to

see if your gb is stone free.

Since your pain is 'milder' than mine seems to be, and I know exactly

that my pain is caused by my 1cm stone that is in the position of the

mouth of the gb when I have pain, I will try this method of flushing

during a colic attack and see if the stone will finally exit. If it

works, and my pain is finally gone, I will varify it by ultrasound to

see if this method works better than just liver cleansing for the

harder stone in the gb. Wish me luck. It may very well be an improved

method of cleansing for those of us with that 'problem, stubborn

stone' that we are still living with after several cleanses. Pain

free is the goal, and then twice a year maintanance cleansing. I'm

very encouraged by this new idea you have tried, and you should be

applauded greatly for your pioneering efforts into a more effective

powerful way to cleanse out the colic producing stones in your gb.

Barry.

> >> I'm not sure about your idea that the oil aided lubrication of

the

> bile ducts, because the oil bypasses that whole system, and I don't

> know if it can be absorbed quickly enough to be of that kind of

> benefit during an attack.

> > Adrienne

>

>

> Well, that's why I said it was a hunch. How long does it take,

then,

> for oil to be absorbed? Does anyone know?

>

> It's possible that it was a total coincidence that last night's

> gallbladder attack ended as quickly as it did. It's likely that it

> had somethign to do with the stretching that I did. (I find that

the

> pain is lessened if I either bend over forward or backward as far

as

> I can.) It's possible that I just dislodged the stone that way and

> it fell back in or moved on through the duct. There's just no way

of

> knowing and all i can do is share my experience and throw thoughts

> out there.

>

> Remember, too, that my situation is quite mild in comparison to

most

> of the stories written out here, so my attacks are nothing compared

> to what many out here have endured. I think it's good to take my

> comments in that context.

>

> in health,

> rachel~