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Hi Bec, and welcome. I am *so* sorry about the trouble you have been

through, losing your babies like that. Who knows why, but those of

us with uterine abnormalities are twice as prone to ectopic

pregnancies. I am so sorry you had to find that out the hard and

dangerous way.

I have never heard of an insurance company getting that picky about

intrauterine vs. ectopic pregnancies. That is horrid of them.

Money, money, money. :-(

I have also had two septoplasties and am hoping that what remains of

my septum does not interfere. Here's hoping your second IVF pays off

big-time. When is it?

Beth

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Hi Bec, Welcome to our group. Sorry to hear your losses. I just had two

septoplasties to remove my complete septum last summer and now I'm trying to

conceive. May I ask how you lost the tubes during lap? Was it an accident or

have they been removed to prevent ecoptic pregnancy? Good luck for your next

try.

Rita

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In a message dated 11/13/2001 2:58:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,

mickbeth@... writes:

> . Who knows why, but those of

> us with uterine abnormalities are twice as prone to ectopic

>

Is that a fact? I didn't know that we have a high risk of ectopic pregnancy!

Where did you get this info.?

Rita

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Welcome Bec! I am so sorry to hear about all you have been through.

I am also new to this group. I have a BU (they think) that they only

found out about when I delivered my son at 29 weeks. Reading the

posts here has really helped.

Good luck ttc.

> Glad to have this support group of ladies. I am glad to see there

are so many success stories here. I have had 2 septoplasties to

remove my complete septum of the ute. I had my first surgery in April

2000, only after having mc'd at 8 weeks due to fetal demise from

implantation on the septum. Then a second surgery to remove the rest

of the septum that remained on the fundus between tube openings. I

have since lost both tubes also to two different ectopic pg's.

>

> First discovered the Septum when I was just out of the Lap I had

for my first ectopic in July 99. Had HSG(can you say OUCH!) and the

OB hit my septum with the catheter when he tried to insert the cath

to put the dye in. Staff OB had to help him finish the HSG due to

also having a blocked tube that caused the dye to backflow out. Was

sent directly to RE after that since the OB had no experience with

Ute anomolies. OB did not know if it was full septate ute or

bicornuate. I left there in tears. RE did sono hsg and it was found

to be septate fully. Had to ttc again since Ins would not cover the

surgery due to not actually having a mc inuteral yet. Well, thank you

very much, I did mc only two months later inuteral on the septum.

Glad I had the surgery to work on the septum because it gave me a

piece of mind knowing I was making a better place for my babies to

live for 9 months hopefully. I did IUI/clomid cycle and got pg but

only to find it in the tube again Sept 00. Had lap to remove and lost

both tubes at that time. Went to IVF after second septopalsty in

spring 01. IVF did not work on 1st try and will be trying again when

I can afford to buy the drugs and pay the doc cash for my next cycle

due to no ins coverages.

>

> Sorry so long. I know our histories are never short!.

>

> Glad to be here,

> Bec

>

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I found a study online regarding uterine anomilies and possible

outcomes for each anomaly, including ectopic pregnancies. I found it

very helpful. Here is the link, sorry so long!

http://www.ferti.net/fertimagazine/journalclub/1998_05_01.asp

> > > . Who knows why, but those of

> > > us with uterine abnormalities are twice as prone to ectopic

> > >

> >

> > Is that a fact? I didn't know that we have a high risk of ectopic

> pregnancy!

> > Where did you get this info.?

>

> Rita,

>

> I did a quick net search without good results, but I can assure you

> that I have seen documentation of the high risk for ectopic

> pregnancy. When I find something, I'll post it. The two theories

at

> work seem to be:

>

> #1 MA women have increased retrograde menstruation because of

> decreased outlets and disorganized muscle contractions. This

leaves

> more debris in the tubes.

>

> #2 (and this sounds fishy to me) the environment for implantation

is

> poor in a MA uterus, so the embryo goes back into the tubes, where

> the environment is better.

>

> The last I heard, fertilized eggs don't think or move or do

anything

> on their own, so how could that be. The retrograde menstruation

> business seems more plausible. Retrograde menstruation is also

> strongly connected with endometriosis, which we also have in higher

> numbers than the general population.

>

> Beth

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> I found a study online regarding uterine anomilies and possible

> outcomes for each anomaly, including ectopic pregnancies. I found

it

> very helpful. Here is the link, sorry so long!

>

> http://www.ferti.net/fertimagazine/journalclub/1998_05_01.asp

Interesting article ... what I found most interesting was the

conclusion. I was confused at first by the stats as they seemed

contrary to what I'd read in the past, but the conclusion &

commentary really cleared things up!

Thanks!

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>

> , There is a great ND book called Preventing Childhood Eating

Problems that you might like to read for your sweet 9.5 month baby. Amy

>

Hi Amy,

What does ND stand for?

Thanks,

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