Acetyl-l-Carnitine

[Guest guest]

First I need to apologize; evidently I sent the same post yesterday

THREE TIMES!!(blame it on brain fog!)SORRY.

Glenn

-regarding acetyl-l-Carnitine: I just re-read the following sites and

I got inspired all over again. There are so many things " alcar " can

do for us MSer's; it sounds amazing. I am also intrigued as it might

help my long standing depression.

Anyway, I don't know what the Maximum dose is. I will continue

research. But the studies listed in the sites below used 2 to 3 grams

per day. I would think in divided doses. I did see a note that high

doses may cause nausea, but I've been taking 2 grams/day for about 10

days now and I haven't noticed anything. After reading the studies, I

think I'm going to increase to 3 grams starting tomorrow.

Remember amino acids must be taken on an empty stomach if using

therapeutically.

Beverly

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_2002_August-

Sept/ai_90794458

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2006/sep2006_report_carnitine_01.htm

http://www.raysahelian.com/acetylcarnitine.html

[Guest guest]

Beverly,

Thanks. I noticed the same thing in an article where they used up to 3 grams

for long durations with no known side effects. I just started taking about 2

grams and will go up to 3 today.

I also here uric acid is a potent peroxinite scavenger and b 12 only in the

hydroxocobolamin form is a potent nitric oxide (NO) scavenger. Much more

potent in a nebulized dose as compared to oral. As for the uric acid, don't

know

where or how to utilize that unless you want to drink your own pee. (LOL)

In a message dated 6/2/2008 11:01:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

beebie10@... writes:

First I need to apologize; evidently I sent the same post yesterday

THREE TIMES!!(blame it on brain fog!)SORRY.

Glenn

-regarding acetyl-l-Carnitine: I just re-read the following sites and

I got inspired all over again. There are so many things " alcar " can

do for us MSer's; it sounds amazing. I am also intrigued as it might

help my long standing depression.

Anyway, I don't know what the Maximum dose is. I will continue

research. But the studies listed in the sites below used 2 to 3 grams

per day. I would think in divided doses. I did see a note that high

doses may cause nausea, but I've been taking 2 grams/day for about 10

days now and I haven't noticed anything. After reading the studies, I

think I'm going to increase to 3 grams starting tomorrow.

Remember amino acids must be taken on an empty stomach if using

therapeutically.

Beverly

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Sept/ai_90794458

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(http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2006/sep2006_report_carnitine_01.htm)

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(http://www.raysahelian.com/acetylcarnitine.html)

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[Guest guest]

Hello all,

I am a newcommer to the group. I have had MS for 15 years, fortunately of benign

type. I have been able to manage it using homeopathy, the BBD, supplements,

regular exercise and, lately, LDN. I never took any traditional medicals.

L-levocarnitine (is it the same as acetyi-l-carnitine?) is the best supplement I

have ever tried. I swear by it. I have been using it for one year now - no side

effects. Strength and vitality improved.

A very good way to increase effectiveness is to increase the grs and the

doses/day gradually:

the first�week take 1 gr/day in two doses, the second week take 1gr in 4

doses, the third week take 1 gr in 6 doses, the forth week take 2 gr in 6 doses,

the fifth week take 2 gr in 9 doses, the sixth week take 3 gr in 9 doses, the

seventh week take 4 gr in 12 doses etc.. I take 2 gr/day, but I know patients

with more severe cases who take up to 6 gr/day.

Good luck

Katerina

[Guest guest]

Katarina: I was curious, so I looked up Levocarnitine. The following

reference claims it is also known as l-carnitine, so I guess it's the

same stuff, only taken by prescription.

I have been taking 1 gram acetyl-l-carnitine arginate twice daily.

When I tried to increase, I did experience nausea, and once actually

threw up (all those expensive vitamins, down the drain!) It's better

taken on an empty stomach, but I find that if I take 2 spoonfuls of

applesauce before I take the carnitine, the nausea is not a problem.

I hope it is as effective that way.

Beverly

GENERIC NAME: LEVOCARNITINE - ORAL (lee-voh-KAR-nih-teen)

BRAND NAME(S): Carnitor

Medication Uses | How To Use | Side Effects | Precautions | Drug

Interactions | Overdose | Notes | Missed Dose | Storage

USES: Also known as L-carnitine, this is a naturally occurring amino

acid derivative required by the body in energy metabolism and for

proper use of fats. This medication is used as a dietary supplement

to treat carnitine deficiency. It may also be used in persons with

abnormal plasma lipoprotein patterns. If you have serious kidney

disease (such as ESRD/dialysis), the intravenous (IV) form of

carnitine should be used. The reason is that large doses of carnitine

taken by mouth for long periods of time may result in serious side

effects (e.g., seizures), interfere with dialysis (increased nitrogen

wastes), and cause " fishy odor " to occur.

HOW TO USE: Take this medication as directed. Do not skip any doses

or take this more often than prescribed. The liquid form may be taken

alone or dissolved in a drink. Drink it slowly to prevent stomach

upset. Doses should be spaced evenly every 3 to 4 hours as directed.

This is best taken with or after meals. Tablets or capsules should be

taken at evenly spaced intervals. If stomach upset occurs, take each

dose with food.

SIDE EFFECTS: This medication is generally well tolerated. It may

cause nausea, vomiting, stomach ache, diarrhea, body odor or muscle

weakness. If any of these symptoms continues or becomes bothersome,

consult your doctor. Contact your doctor immediately if you

experience: seizures. If you notice other effects not listed above,

contact your doctor or pharmacist.

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> Hello all,

> I am a newcommer to the group. I have had MS for 15 years,

fortunately of benign type. I have been able to manage it using

homeopathy, the BBD, supplements, regular exercise and, lately, LDN.

I never took any traditional medicals. L-levocarnitine (is it the

same as acetyi-l-carnitine?) is the best supplement I have ever tried.

[Guest guest]

Hi Beverly,

Since you already take 1 gr/day in two doses, I suggest that you should try to

make the doses 4 and then 6, before increasing the  grs.. What I do is: I dilute

my carnitine in a small bottle of water (1/2 lt), I carry it in my bag and drink

it little by little throughout the day. I suppose you can use juice instead of

water.

Hope that helps

Katerina