Re: Calcium

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In a message dated 4/10/02 10:45:37 AM US Mountain Standard Time,

tgh3@... writes:

> On top of my fibroids, I have osteopenia (the early form of osteoporosis)

Dragana:

I, too, have osteopenia. However, I never heard it called the 'early form of

osteoporosis. Osteopenia is less than normal but more than osteoporosis. It

doesn't necessarily progress to osteoporosis, I don't think. By the way, I

take OsCal 500+D and Calcium Lactate by Twinlab. I also take a Multi-Mineral

that has some calcium and some magnesium. I take them with my biggest meal

of the day.

Cheryl

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Calcium citrate is far superior to the cheaper forms such as

CA carbonate as the citrate is much more easily and readily

absorbed.

Fran Donovan, RN, MBA

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Calcium

BlankDear group,

I am looking for the right kind of calcium. On top of my

fibroids, I have osteopenia (the early form of

osteoporosis). I am aware of calcium carbonate ( in

Caltrate), oyster shell powder ( in Oscal), calcium citrate,

and calcium stearate. Which one works best in our systems?

I am taking Rejuvex in the morning for the magnesium

benefits, and calcium at night.

Thanks for any insight,

Dragana.

[Guest guest]

Calcium citrate is far superior to the cheaper forms such as

CA carbonate as the citrate is much more easily and readily

absorbed.

Fran Donovan, RN, MBA

The Law of Dharma

Everyone has a purpose in life...a unique or special talent

to give to others. And when we blend this unique talent with

service to others, we experience the ecstasy and exultation

of our own spirit, which is the ultimate goal of all goals.

Calcium

BlankDear group,

I am looking for the right kind of calcium. On top of my

fibroids, I have osteopenia (the early form of

osteoporosis). I am aware of calcium carbonate ( in

Caltrate), oyster shell powder ( in Oscal), calcium citrate,

and calcium stearate. Which one works best in our systems?

I am taking Rejuvex in the morning for the magnesium

benefits, and calcium at night.

Thanks for any insight,

Dragana.

[Guest guest]

Hi, Dragana

Calcium Carbonate gives you the most calcium 40% elemental calcium,

but the harshist on your stomach

Calcium Citrate 21% elemental, less harsh on your stomach

Calcium Gluconate 9.% elemental, easiest on your stomach.

Take Calcium w/D, if your stomach can take it take the Calcium Carb

(oscal is calc. carb).

Be careful some calcium you have to take 2 tablets to get the amount

listed, read the labels carefully.

Also, if you don't like too much milk, the orange juices w/added

calcium give you more calcium than regular milk does.

Oh, there are a lot of new products out that give you lots of calcium

(chewables, choclate flavored chews, etc.)

Hope this helps!

> BlankDear group,

> I am looking for the right kind of calcium. On top of my fibroids,

I have osteopenia (the early form of osteoporosis). I am aware of

calcium carbonate ( in Caltrate), oyster shell powder ( in Oscal),

calcium citrate, and calcium stearate. Which one works best in our

systems?

> I am taking Rejuvex in the morning for the magnesium benefits, and

calcium at night.

> Thanks for any insight,

> Dragana.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Dragana

Calcium Carbonate gives you the most calcium 40% elemental calcium,

but the harshist on your stomach

Calcium Citrate 21% elemental, less harsh on your stomach

Calcium Gluconate 9.% elemental, easiest on your stomach.

Take Calcium w/D, if your stomach can take it take the Calcium Carb

(oscal is calc. carb).

Be careful some calcium you have to take 2 tablets to get the amount

listed, read the labels carefully.

Also, if you don't like too much milk, the orange juices w/added

calcium give you more calcium than regular milk does.

Oh, there are a lot of new products out that give you lots of calcium

(chewables, choclate flavored chews, etc.)

Hope this helps!

> BlankDear group,

> I am looking for the right kind of calcium. On top of my fibroids,

I have osteopenia (the early form of osteoporosis). I am aware of

calcium carbonate ( in Caltrate), oyster shell powder ( in Oscal),

calcium citrate, and calcium stearate. Which one works best in our

systems?

> I am taking Rejuvex in the morning for the magnesium benefits, and

calcium at night.

> Thanks for any insight,

> Dragana.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Dragana

Calcium Carbonate gives you the most calcium 40% elemental calcium,

but the harshist on your stomach

Calcium Citrate 21% elemental, less harsh on your stomach

Calcium Gluconate 9.% elemental, easiest on your stomach.

Take Calcium w/D, if your stomach can take it take the Calcium Carb

(oscal is calc. carb).

Be careful some calcium you have to take 2 tablets to get the amount

listed, read the labels carefully.

Also, if you don't like too much milk, the orange juices w/added

calcium give you more calcium than regular milk does.

Oh, there are a lot of new products out that give you lots of calcium

(chewables, choclate flavored chews, etc.)

Hope this helps!

> BlankDear group,

> I am looking for the right kind of calcium. On top of my fibroids,

I have osteopenia (the early form of osteoporosis). I am aware of

calcium carbonate ( in Caltrate), oyster shell powder ( in Oscal),

calcium citrate, and calcium stearate. Which one works best in our

systems?

> I am taking Rejuvex in the morning for the magnesium benefits, and

calcium at night.

> Thanks for any insight,

> Dragana.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dragana,

I can't tell you which type is best (my doctor suggests Tums which are

carbonate), but if you are taking more than around 500 mg at a time you

should split the dose. The body can only absorb so much at once. I know

I've read this somewhere, can anyone else verify?

The Family wrote:

> BlankDear group,

> I am looking for the right kind of calcium. On top of my fibroids, I

> have osteopenia (the early form of osteoporosis). I am aware of

> calcium carbonate ( in Caltrate), oyster shell powder ( in Oscal),

> calcium citrate, and calcium stearate. Which one works best in our

> systems?

> I am taking Rejuvex in the morning for the magnesium benefits, and

> calcium at night.

> Thanks for any insight,

> Dragana.

[Guest guest]

Dragana,

I can't tell you which type is best (my doctor suggests Tums which are

carbonate), but if you are taking more than around 500 mg at a time you

should split the dose. The body can only absorb so much at once. I know

I've read this somewhere, can anyone else verify?

The Family wrote:

> BlankDear group,

> I am looking for the right kind of calcium. On top of my fibroids, I

> have osteopenia (the early form of osteoporosis). I am aware of

> calcium carbonate ( in Caltrate), oyster shell powder ( in Oscal),

> calcium citrate, and calcium stearate. Which one works best in our

> systems?

> I am taking Rejuvex in the morning for the magnesium benefits, and

> calcium at night.

> Thanks for any insight,

> Dragana.

[Guest guest]

Dragana,

I can't tell you which type is best (my doctor suggests Tums which are

carbonate), but if you are taking more than around 500 mg at a time you

should split the dose. The body can only absorb so much at once. I know

I've read this somewhere, can anyone else verify?

The Family wrote:

> BlankDear group,

> I am looking for the right kind of calcium. On top of my fibroids, I

> have osteopenia (the early form of osteoporosis). I am aware of

> calcium carbonate ( in Caltrate), oyster shell powder ( in Oscal),

> calcium citrate, and calcium stearate. Which one works best in our

> systems?

> I am taking Rejuvex in the morning for the magnesium benefits, and

> calcium at night.

> Thanks for any insight,

> Dragana.

[Guest guest]

,

Vitamin C and Calcium are antagonists. In other words, adding calcium

(mineral) to Orange juice (vitamin) cancel each other out. They will not

absorb in each others presence. It is a marketing scheme. Take calcium at

night before retiring. The body reaches into itself at night to replenish

stores for the next day strength. If there is no calcium found it will go to

muscle tissue first then bone. If you take your calcium at night the body

uses the easiest store available, your intestines. Its called food combining.

Robin

[Guest guest]

,

Vitamin C and Calcium are antagonists. In other words, adding calcium

(mineral) to Orange juice (vitamin) cancel each other out. They will not

absorb in each others presence. It is a marketing scheme. Take calcium at

night before retiring. The body reaches into itself at night to replenish

stores for the next day strength. If there is no calcium found it will go to

muscle tissue first then bone. If you take your calcium at night the body

uses the easiest store available, your intestines. Its called food combining.

Robin

[Guest guest]

,

Vitamin C and Calcium are antagonists. In other words, adding calcium

(mineral) to Orange juice (vitamin) cancel each other out. They will not

absorb in each others presence. It is a marketing scheme. Take calcium at

night before retiring. The body reaches into itself at night to replenish

stores for the next day strength. If there is no calcium found it will go to

muscle tissue first then bone. If you take your calcium at night the body

uses the easiest store available, your intestines. Its called food combining.

Robin

[Guest guest]

I don't know which one is best, but try not to take your calcium at the same

time you take a vitamin with iron. Iron inhibits the body's absorption of

calcium. Dorie

Calcium

> BlankDear group,

> I am looking for the right kind of calcium. On top of my fibroids, I have

osteopenia (the early form of osteoporosis). I am aware of calcium

carbonate ( in Caltrate), oyster shell powder ( in Oscal), calcium citrate,

and calcium stearate. Which one works best in our systems?

> I am taking Rejuvex in the morning for the magnesium benefits, and calcium

at night.

> Thanks for any insight,

> Dragana.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't know which one is best, but try not to take your calcium at the same

time you take a vitamin with iron. Iron inhibits the body's absorption of

calcium. Dorie

Calcium

> BlankDear group,

> I am looking for the right kind of calcium. On top of my fibroids, I have

osteopenia (the early form of osteoporosis). I am aware of calcium

carbonate ( in Caltrate), oyster shell powder ( in Oscal), calcium citrate,

and calcium stearate. Which one works best in our systems?

> I am taking Rejuvex in the morning for the magnesium benefits, and calcium

at night.

> Thanks for any insight,

> Dragana.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't know which one is best, but try not to take your calcium at the same

time you take a vitamin with iron. Iron inhibits the body's absorption of

calcium. Dorie

Calcium

> BlankDear group,

> I am looking for the right kind of calcium. On top of my fibroids, I have

osteopenia (the early form of osteoporosis). I am aware of calcium

carbonate ( in Caltrate), oyster shell powder ( in Oscal), calcium citrate,

and calcium stearate. Which one works best in our systems?

> I am taking Rejuvex in the morning for the magnesium benefits, and calcium

at night.

> Thanks for any insight,

> Dragana.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/11/02 5:15:31 PM US Mountain Standard Time,

redsshelti@... writes:

> If you take your calcium at night the body

> uses the easiest store available, your intestines. Its called food

> combining.

>

>

Does 'at night' mean with dinner?

Cheryl

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In a message dated 4/11/02 5:15:31 PM US Mountain Standard Time,

redsshelti@... writes:

> If you take your calcium at night the body

> uses the easiest store available, your intestines. Its called food

> combining.

>

>

Does 'at night' mean with dinner?

Cheryl

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/11/02 5:15:31 PM US Mountain Standard Time,

redsshelti@... writes:

> If you take your calcium at night the body

> uses the easiest store available, your intestines. Its called food

> combining.

>

>

Does 'at night' mean with dinner?

Cheryl

[Guest guest]

I work for the Prostate Cancer Research Institute and my husband is a PC

patient. Bone integrity and osteoporosis is something we had to research 2

years ago for him and continue to do so. From what I've learned, I concur

with a lot of the things mentioned about calcium in the last couple of days.

Most of my learning is from one doctor, Dr Strum from the PCRI, so I

might be a little one-sided, but he has studied bone integrity for years and

was one of the first to treat it in the setting of PC. Dr Strum says that

calcium citrate is much better absorbed than calcium carbonate or oyster

shell calcium. Thus tums are a good marketing attempt, but not very useful.

He also stated that the body does all its bone-building at night, while you

sleep, thus the need to take calcium at night for better absorption. He

recommends 500mg at dinner and 500mg at bedtime, BUT THAT IS WITH A

BISPHOSPHONATE, please take note of that. Bisphosphonates (Bpn's) include

Fosamax and Actonel. Bpn's have the ability to take the calcium out of your

bloodstream and actually apply it to the bone. 1000mg of calcium a day

without a bpn doesn't make much sense, according to him, and might overload

the body with calcium putting one at risk for kidney calcification and other

complications. I don't know what the recommendation would be for calcium w/o

a bpn, but maybe 500 mg. Also important to note is the other ingredients

involved in bone building such as magnesium, silica, boron, vit D, and more.

I think it makes good sense to have a supplement that includes some of these,

if not all. I have to ask the question, though, for those who posted w/

osteopenia, have you considered a bpn, and if so, why not? Osteoporosis is

something that is undertested in this country, although I don't know why.

Insurance co's only cover a DEXA what, every 6 mos or year? How do you know

if your calcium is making a difference if you are not being tested? There is

a urine test called a PyrilinksD done by Quest diagnostics which can measure

your bone resorption for you (not BMD) and help give information you might

need about your current bone loss. In our area (FL) it is about $50,

although my husband's insurance paid for all of them. Of course,

weight-building or weight-resistance exercise can build bone, also (not

cycling or swimming). Bpn's can be a nuisance to take every morning, but

there is a once a week pill for Fosamax (70mg) and also a 30mg Actonel pill

that I believe can be taken once a week also (that might be a little

controversial). There is also a nasal spray call Miacalcin (not a bpn, but a

Calcitonin) which is tolerated by some better than the bpn's. It also needs

to be taken w/ calcium and the other bone supplements. Like fibroids, I hope

those w/ osteopenia are doing their own research and not relying only on the

doc. I definitely believe this condition is under-researched and not taken

seriously enough. If you have a diagnosis from a DEXA of osteopenia, you

ought to be able to get a bpn script from almost any doc. I hope I haven't

carried on, I just have a lot of info on this stuff.......Jan

[Guest guest]

I would take your vitamins in the morning (compliments your energy cycle) and

your minerals at night, with food. Take your calcium before climbing into bed.

[Guest guest]

Hi, Robin,

I did find that you should take calcium in the evening but if you

take more than 500mg at a time anything over the 500mg will not be

absorbed, so it's better to space it out.

The NIH Consensus Conference recommends consuming calcium supplements

between meals to increase calcium bioavailabilty.

I didn't find anything showing that vitamin C and Calcium are

antagontist. Just with some other foods and minerals.

-- In uterinefibroids@y..., redsshelti@a... wrote:

> ,

> Vitamin C and Calcium are antagonists. In other words, adding

calcium

> (mineral) to Orange juice (vitamin) cancel each other out. They

will not

> absorb in each others presence. It is a marketing scheme. Take

calcium at

> night before retiring. The body reaches into itself at night to

replenish

> stores for the next day strength. If there is no calcium found it

will go to

> muscle tissue first then bone. If you take your calcium at night

the body

> uses the easiest store available, your intestines. Its called food

combining.

>

> Robin

[Guest guest]

Might I suggest Calcium WITH Magnesium. Let me go read the front & back of my

bottle...

" Amount per serving: Calcium 1000mg, Magnesium 600mg, Vitamin D 200IU, Vitamin

K 30mcg & more "

I take it at night, as it also helps me to sleep!

Jeannie*

Re: Calcium

Hi, Robin,

I did find that you should take calcium in the evening but if you

take more than 500mg at a time anything over the 500mg will not be

absorbed, so it's better to space it out.

The NIH Consensus Conference recommends consuming calcium supplements

between meals to increase calcium bioavailabilty.

I didn't find anything showing that vitamin C and Calcium are

antagontist. Just with some other foods and minerals.

-- In uterinefibroids@y..., redsshelti@a... wrote:

> ,

> Vitamin C and Calcium are antagonists. In other words, adding

calcium

> (mineral) to Orange juice (vitamin) cancel each other out. They

will not

> absorb in each others presence. It is a marketing scheme. Take

calcium at

> night before retiring. The body reaches into itself at night to

replenish

> stores for the next day strength. If there is no calcium found it

will go to

> muscle tissue first then bone. If you take your calcium at night

the body

> uses the easiest store available, your intestines. Its called food

combining.

>

> Robin

[Guest guest]

Might I suggest Calcium WITH Magnesium. Let me go read the front & back of my

bottle...

" Amount per serving: Calcium 1000mg, Magnesium 600mg, Vitamin D 200IU, Vitamin

K 30mcg & more "

I take it at night, as it also helps me to sleep!

Jeannie*

Re: Calcium

Hi, Robin,

I did find that you should take calcium in the evening but if you

take more than 500mg at a time anything over the 500mg will not be

absorbed, so it's better to space it out.

The NIH Consensus Conference recommends consuming calcium supplements

between meals to increase calcium bioavailabilty.

I didn't find anything showing that vitamin C and Calcium are

antagontist. Just with some other foods and minerals.

-- In uterinefibroids@y..., redsshelti@a... wrote:

> ,

> Vitamin C and Calcium are antagonists. In other words, adding

calcium

> (mineral) to Orange juice (vitamin) cancel each other out. They

will not

> absorb in each others presence. It is a marketing scheme. Take

calcium at

> night before retiring. The body reaches into itself at night to

replenish

> stores for the next day strength. If there is no calcium found it

will go to

> muscle tissue first then bone. If you take your calcium at night

the body

> uses the easiest store available, your intestines. Its called food

combining.

>

> Robin

[Guest guest]

Might I suggest Calcium WITH Magnesium. Let me go read the front & back of my

bottle...

" Amount per serving: Calcium 1000mg, Magnesium 600mg, Vitamin D 200IU, Vitamin

K 30mcg & more "

I take it at night, as it also helps me to sleep!

Jeannie*

Re: Calcium

Hi, Robin,

I did find that you should take calcium in the evening but if you

take more than 500mg at a time anything over the 500mg will not be

absorbed, so it's better to space it out.

The NIH Consensus Conference recommends consuming calcium supplements

between meals to increase calcium bioavailabilty.

I didn't find anything showing that vitamin C and Calcium are

antagontist. Just with some other foods and minerals.

-- In uterinefibroids@y..., redsshelti@a... wrote:

> ,

> Vitamin C and Calcium are antagonists. In other words, adding

calcium

> (mineral) to Orange juice (vitamin) cancel each other out. They

will not

> absorb in each others presence. It is a marketing scheme. Take

calcium at

> night before retiring. The body reaches into itself at night to

replenish

> stores for the next day strength. If there is no calcium found it

will go to

> muscle tissue first then bone. If you take your calcium at night

the body

> uses the easiest store available, your intestines. Its called food

combining.

>

> Robin

[Guest guest]

hi Ruth Ann

i dont know it all for sure but from what i have learned and been told by

many online and in person .. we need specifically calcium citrate

it is easier for our bodies to absorb .. the other calcium carbonate is not

as easily absorbed .. i have been taking the Caltrate Plus also. Since its

not enough i take 4-5 per day .. this way i am at least getting in something ..

i personally am picky on taste but getting better. i tried Bariatric

Advantage Calcium Citrate but to be honest didn't like the strange way it

breaks up

in your mouth .. not sure how to explain it but it is just strange for me. i

have been asking at different pharmacies if they carry Calcium Citrate

Chewables but so far no one has. I have seen it once in a vitamin store but its

a

HUMONGOUS glass bottle and it is very expensive .. the pills are HUGE too, and

you take like 5 a day so it only lasts like 2 weeks. I am trying to find

something locally that at least lasts one month.. dont know if i can ..

anyways just sharing what i know with you .. hope it helps you some.