Re: 6 rounds of chelation - diary version

[Guest guest]

Hi Valentina,

That is very nice! I am happy for you and Denis.

Life around your house sounds great--- I can see why you

would be having a hard time figuring what to expect

with Denis changing so much

Well, I am sure you know Valentina, there are ADULT progress

reports in the love_letters, too..... so maybe sometime when

you have some energy, you can tell us about how YOU are

doing too? That would be nice too. I know you said you

don't feel like killing someone which is very nice

Anyway, if you feel like it maybe you could say more.

I always like reading progress reports! I'd send one

myself if I had anything really to say but I don't.

Just all that " subtle " stuff--- you know--- gee, well MAYBE

this is happening or maybe it isn't. ha ha ha.

My sense of humor is really great lately.

best wishes,

Moria

--occassional archivist

At 08:13 PM 1/6/2002 +0200, you wrote:

>

>Hi,

>

>I felt like giving Moria another " Love-Letter " and for the rest of

>you who will read this message - maybe a small reason to smile

[Guest guest]

Valentina,

Your post has given me sooo much hope! Thank you! My son-is also 3

and metals toxic. He is loaded with antimony,lead and aliminum and

does show mercury. One of our BIGGEST problems that has gotten MUCH

better on enzymes but not gone, is tantruming, and defiance. I am

convinced it is the matals as he would not have improved so much on

the diet and enzymes. I am so happy to hear of your sons improvements,

please keep us informed often.

Patti

-- In @y..., Valentina Ardelean <val@t...> wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> I felt like giving Moria another " Love-Letter " and for the rest of

> you who will read this message - maybe a small reason to smile

>

> Me and my son Denis (who is 3 years old) are living in Romania.

> Denis was diagnosed as being ASD two and a half months ago. After a few

> tests, two doctors (who, I have to say, didn't know much about autism)

> told me that reading the charts, Denis seems to be severely affected,

> his score being somewhere between the middle and the end of the chart.

> Denis had a lot of sensory problems, was non-verbal, also couldn't

> understand speech, language, had no clue how to play with kids or games,

> had lots of allergies and a million other digestive problems... what can

> I say more... he was autistic

>

> We started chelation almost a month and a half ago. We used ALA only,

> with good results after each round. I will try to translate some stuff

> from his diary

>

> First round:

> After 2-3 hours from the first dose of ALA I gave him, Denis started to

> speak some words. There were few recognizable, but most of them were

> just " blah-blah " He was so changed all those 3-4 days, that everybody

> noticed. He was still the same, but yet you could see a big change. He

> was speaking, playing, he was more aware of the world around him. One

> day, my sister told me that if she wouldn't know, she would think Denis

> is NT

> One of the biggest changes in Denis at that first round (and this is one

> things that he lost completely) was the fact that he never had a tantrum

> again. Well, he was nervous sometimes, or other times he found reasons

> to cry, but he never had another tantrum like he used to have

> (really-really bad!!). Even if sometimes I yelled at him he still didn't

> get crazy again.

> He learned how to point with his finger in some direction (sorry I don't

> know how to explain this better) if he wanted to show me something. He

> didn't know how to keep the finger, but he was using the whole hand.

>

> Round two

> Again, I noticed how much calmer Denis is. He looks like a really happy

> kid.

> One evening, I found him dancing in front of the tv. (I forgot to say

> that with the first round, he started to sing)

> I also started to give Denis baths with magnesium sulfate. I think this

> was also something that helped him enormously.

> He stopped jumping so much all the time... he was still hyperactive

> some, but not so much anymore.

> One day after the second round he came to me with a picture. He was

> showing me the picture! That was something extraordinary for Denis! He

> never did that before! He never had the need to show me anything.

> Anyway, the picture was of him, when he was really small, and he was

> eating So he came to me with that picture, very happy, and was saying

> " Papa! Papa! " LOL this means " eating "

>

> I found a really funny note in the diary (well, it makes me laugh now)

> " I have to say that lately, something very weird is happening to me. I

> find myself in the weirdest position of not knowing how to react and

> what to do in situations when usually Denis would have had a major

> tantrum "

> I guess this was my biggest problem...

>

> Round three

> Small improvements... nothing really new... everything was ok...

>

> Round four

> same... Denis was improving slowly, same areas...

>

> Round five

> I started giving Denis Lecithin and Piracetam. I don't know if this was

> a coincidence, but the second day after we started this, Denis could

> understand almost everything I was telling him. I was shocked all that

> day. It was the only day when this effect was THAT visible, but the next

> days (until now) Denis seems like he is improving a lot in this area...

> He understands what I say, he follows commends, he learns words (he

> doesn't use them spontaneously, but he learns them) and even if

> sometimes it takes a while until he reacts, at least he shows

> comprehension now.

> I wanted to say about Piracetam because this changed a lot of things.

> Slowly, but things are changing. It is true that he gets a little hyper

> when he gets it but that's not too bad...

>

> With this fifth round, Denis started to look into my eyes. He does that

> almost all the time now when I talk to him.

> He started to show a really good appetite. He WANTED TO taste meat. Now

> I don't have to hide it in his food anymore He eats it with no

> problems.

>

> Round six (now)

> This morning, when Denis woke up, I was changing his clothes and we

> bumped our heads I was shocked to see that Denis puts his hand on his

> head and says " Ouch! " ) Not only that he talked appropriately, but he

> reacted instinctively! And it was fast also! He never ever ever! did

> something like this before!

> Also, this morning, he was listening a song and suddenly he started to

> clap his hands on the rhythm of the song.

>

>

> Well, all this time, these were only obvious things that happened, but

> also, there were a lot of subtle improvements... or things that improved

> in a longer time..

> He learned how to undress himself. We're still working at the dressing

> part, but his dexterity is improving a lot.

> Also, of course, like all the other kids, Denis had a problems with

> yeast and parasites. I knew that long before I ever suspected that he

> might be autistic, and I tried many-many times to treat it, but it

> didn't work. So now, when we started chelation, I've decided to worry

> about the yeast/parasites later. I just ignored this problem for now and

> I stopped giving him any medication for that. Well, I don't know exactly

> what's happening, but all those physical signs that show

> years/parasites... are gone. I am sure he still has them, but the

> problem is not that bad anymore.

> His digestion improved a lot, as I said, he is eating now meat. His

> stool looks much better these days, and actually it started to change

> with the first round of chelation. This was on and off, better days and

> worse days, but I think his digestion is improving.

> His breath doesn't smell anymore in the morning.

> He has no eczema anymore. His skin looks and feels better than ever.

> He gained 1 kg! (2 pounds) This is something so amazing that I can't

> even find words to describe what this actually means Denis' weight

> didn't change in more than a year. And now, he has muscles!

>

> Oh! He started to watch cartoons He never liked them. And many times

> I hear him laughing so I like to think that maybe he actually

> understands something

>

> Also, in the past, Denis used to have his pants wet almost all the time.

> He was potty trained, and he was using the potty, but still, he couldn't

> realize that he is wet. Now, I've noticed that in the " on " days he NEVER

> gets his pants wet.

>

> Ok, I have to finish here I would still have a lot of things to say,

> but I think I said enough I hope you are still awake )LOL

>

> I have to say again " Thank you! " to everybody. Joining this list was for

> sure one of the best things I did! You are all really wonderful people

> and I really-really hope you will all have great improvements with

> chelation. Thank you for all the advises and for sharing your

> experiences. I've learned a lot.

> I will also say a special " Thank you " to Moria and Andy. Thank you!

> Those Andy_index files are the key!

>

>

> Valentina

[Guest guest]

Hi Moria,

I guess I should do a report about what's happening to me too I

deserve this There are some amazing things... But I thought Denis is

so much more important Anyway, I will, very soon, do this. But about

me I can also say negative things

Valentina

> Hi Valentina,

>

> That is very nice! I am happy for you and Denis.

> Life around your house sounds great--- I can see why you

> would be having a hard time figuring what to expect

> with Denis changing so much

>

> Well, I am sure you know Valentina, there are ADULT progress

> reports in the love_letters, too..... so maybe sometime when

> you have some energy, you can tell us about how YOU are

> doing too? That would be nice too. I know you said you

> don't feel like killing someone which is very nice

> Anyway, if you feel like it maybe you could say more.

>

> I always like reading progress reports! I'd send one

> myself if I had anything really to say but I don't.

> Just all that " subtle " stuff--- you know--- gee, well MAYBE

> this is happening or maybe it isn't. ha ha ha.

> My sense of humor is really great lately.

>

> best wishes,

> Moria

> --occassional archivist

>

>

>

>

> At 08:13 PM 1/6/2002 +0200, you wrote:

> >

> >Hi,

> >

> >I felt like giving Moria another " Love-Letter " and for the rest of

>

> >you who will read this message - maybe a small reason to smile

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Patti,

You know what keeps me going? The fact that each day there is something

new. Or like Moria said, maybe it is, but maybe it isn't I was lucky

because even if at first these changes are small and make me think that

maybe it isn't there, they really are there actually... and they stay

(most of the times)

Thank you so much for the nice words.

I hope your son is doing great

Valentina

> Valentina,

> Your post has given me sooo much hope! Thank you! My son-is also 3

> and metals toxic. He is loaded with antimony,lead and aliminum and

> does show mercury. One of our BIGGEST problems that has gotten MUCH

> better on enzymes but not gone, is tantruming, and defiance. I am

> convinced it is the matals as he would not have improved so much on

> the diet and enzymes. I am so happy to hear of your sons improvements,

>

> please keep us informed often.

> Patti

[Guest guest]

Hi Valentina,

i loved you LOVE LETTER, the improvements you are seeing are so

amazing, I like to hear the updates on children that are using just

ALA, there have been a few in the early part of the year that used

only ALA and thier reports were much like yours, I find it so

amazing, keep up the good work, the improvements are so neat, Leah

>

> Hi,

>

> I felt like giving Moria another " Love-Letter " and for the rest

of

> you who will read this message - maybe a small reason to smile

>

> Me and my son Denis (who is 3 years old) are living in Romania.

> Denis was diagnosed as being ASD two and a half months ago. After a

few

> tests, two doctors (who, I have to say, didn't know much about

autism)

> told me that reading the charts, Denis seems to be severely

affected,

> his score being somewhere between the middle and the end of the

chart.

> Denis had a lot of sensory problems, was non-verbal, also couldn't

> understand speech, language, had no clue how to play with kids or

games,

> had lots of allergies and a million other digestive problems...

what can

> I say more... he was autistic

>

> We started chelation almost a month and a half ago. We used ALA

only,

> with good results after each round. I will try to translate some

stuff

> from his diary

>

> First round:

> After 2-3 hours from the first dose of ALA I gave him, Denis

started to

> speak some words. There were few recognizable, but most of them were

> just " blah-blah " He was so changed all those 3-4 days, that

everybody

> noticed. He was still the same, but yet you could see a big change.

He

> was speaking, playing, he was more aware of the world around him.

One

> day, my sister told me that if she wouldn't know, she would think

Denis

> is NT

> One of the biggest changes in Denis at that first round (and this

is one

> things that he lost completely) was the fact that he never had a

tantrum

> again. Well, he was nervous sometimes, or other times he found

reasons

> to cry, but he never had another tantrum like he used to have

> (really-really bad!!). Even if sometimes I yelled at him he still

didn't

> get crazy again.

> He learned how to point with his finger in some direction (sorry I

don't

> know how to explain this better) if he wanted to show me something.

He

> didn't know how to keep the finger, but he was using the whole hand.

>

> Round two

> Again, I noticed how much calmer Denis is. He looks like a really

happy

> kid.

> One evening, I found him dancing in front of the tv. (I forgot to

say

> that with the first round, he started to sing)

> I also started to give Denis baths with magnesium sulfate. I think

this

> was also something that helped him enormously.

> He stopped jumping so much all the time... he was still hyperactive

> some, but not so much anymore.

> One day after the second round he came to me with a picture. He was

> showing me the picture! That was something extraordinary for Denis!

He

> never did that before! He never had the need to show me anything.

> Anyway, the picture was of him, when he was really small, and he was

> eating So he came to me with that picture, very happy, and was

saying

> " Papa! Papa! " LOL this means " eating "

>

> I found a really funny note in the diary (well, it makes me laugh

now)

> " I have to say that lately, something very weird is happening to

me. I

> find myself in the weirdest position of not knowing how to react

and

> what to do in situations when usually Denis would have had a major

> tantrum "

> I guess this was my biggest problem...

>

> Round three

> Small improvements... nothing really new... everything was ok...

>

> Round four

> same... Denis was improving slowly, same areas...

>

> Round five

> I started giving Denis Lecithin and Piracetam. I don't know if this

was

> a coincidence, but the second day after we started this, Denis could

> understand almost everything I was telling him. I was shocked all

that

> day. It was the only day when this effect was THAT visible, but the

next

> days (until now) Denis seems like he is improving a lot in this

area...

> He understands what I say, he follows commends, he learns words (he

> doesn't use them spontaneously, but he learns them) and even if

> sometimes it takes a while until he reacts, at least he shows

> comprehension now.

> I wanted to say about Piracetam because this changed a lot of

things.

> Slowly, but things are changing. It is true that he gets a little

hyper

> when he gets it but that's not too bad...

>

> With this fifth round, Denis started to look into my eyes. He does

that

> almost all the time now when I talk to him.

> He started to show a really good appetite. He WANTED TO taste meat.

Now

> I don't have to hide it in his food anymore He eats it with no

> problems.

>

> Round six (now)

> This morning, when Denis woke up, I was changing his clothes and we

> bumped our heads I was shocked to see that Denis puts his hand

on his

> head and says " Ouch! " ) Not only that he talked appropriately,

but he

> reacted instinctively! And it was fast also! He never ever ever! did

> something like this before!

> Also, this morning, he was listening a song and suddenly he started

to

> clap his hands on the rhythm of the song.

>

>

> Well, all this time, these were only obvious things that happened,

but

> also, there were a lot of subtle improvements... or things that

improved

> in a longer time..

> He learned how to undress himself. We're still working at the

dressing

> part, but his dexterity is improving a lot.

> Also, of course, like all the other kids, Denis had a problems with

> yeast and parasites. I knew that long before I ever suspected that

he

> might be autistic, and I tried many-many times to treat it, but it

> didn't work. So now, when we started chelation, I've decided to

worry

> about the yeast/parasites later. I just ignored this problem for

now and

> I stopped giving him any medication for that. Well, I don't know

exactly

> what's happening, but all those physical signs that show

> years/parasites... are gone. I am sure he still has them, but the

> problem is not that bad anymore.

> His digestion improved a lot, as I said, he is eating now meat. His

> stool looks much better these days, and actually it started to

change

> with the first round of chelation. This was on and off, better days

and

> worse days, but I think his digestion is improving.

> His breath doesn't smell anymore in the morning.

> He has no eczema anymore. His skin looks and feels better than ever.

> He gained 1 kg! (2 pounds) This is something so amazing that I can't

> even find words to describe what this actually means Denis'

weight

> didn't change in more than a year. And now, he has muscles!

>

> Oh! He started to watch cartoons He never liked them. And many

times

> I hear him laughing so I like to think that maybe he actually

> understands something

>

> Also, in the past, Denis used to have his pants wet almost all the

time.

> He was potty trained, and he was using the potty, but still, he

couldn't

> realize that he is wet. Now, I've noticed that in the " on " days he

NEVER

> gets his pants wet.

>

> Ok, I have to finish here I would still have a lot of things to

say,

> but I think I said enough I hope you are still awake )LOL

>

> I have to say again " Thank you! " to everybody. Joining this list

was for

> sure one of the best things I did! You are all really wonderful

people

> and I really-really hope you will all have great improvements with

> chelation. Thank you for all the advises and for sharing your

> experiences. I've learned a lot.

> I will also say a special " Thank you " to Moria and Andy. Thank you!

> Those Andy_index files are the key!

>

>

> Valentina

[Guest guest]

Hi Leah,

Thank you

It is great to see things moving...

Today I started to give Denis some enzymes. I don't know if it's their

" fault " , I am not sure if I am supposed to see results so fast, but

today he acted so... weird I don't know what other better word to

use... His behavior was so unusual and so great. He was such a brat

all day he played tricks on me He was coming to me laughing and he

was spying on me to see if I'm looking at him while he's doing things

that were supposed to be bad And I had to chase him around all day,

and he was running, laughing like crazy It was a really funny day

Also he had his pants dry all day, and usually this was happening while

" on " days mostly (we are on " off " days now)... Also he stopped stimming

in front of the tv. This was something that he always did... I didn't

hear him today.

I don't know if this is because of chelation, because of the enzymes or

because of both, but it feels great to see him like this

I really hope things are at least that great for everybody.

I wish I would hear more updates too...

Valentina

> i loved you LOVE LETTER, the improvements you are seeing are so

> amazing, I like to hear the updates on children that are using just

> ALA, there have been a few in the early part of the year that used

> only ALA and thier reports were much like yours, I find it so amazing,

> keep up the good work, the improvements are so neat, Leah