Re: body hurting - side effect of chelation?

[Guest guest]

Janice, I gave the same dosages to my son when I

started chelation and it was rough on him. He had

heavy congestion and it lasted for three weeks. He was

also exhausted and slept a lot. I think that the hurt

will probably go away after awhile. He doesn't seem to

be in pain and he is still playing and having fun!

These are good signs. We are on our 18th round of

chelation and I was terrified in the beginning. My son

went through some rough patches and still does but he

always comes out improved. Hang in there. Vicky

--- D & J Tobey <djtobey@...> wrote:

>

> My five year old recently began chelation, and has

> now had 12 doses (not chelation rounds) of DMSA.

> After dose number 11, he complained that his body

> hurt all over, except in his head. I am assuming

> that this is from the DMSA. Is that a GOOD sign, in

> that it means that it is working, or does it mean

> that his dosage is too high? Or is something else

> wrong?

>

> He's not in agony, by the way, and isn't acting

> sick. He's just as full of energy, mischief, and

> playfulness as normal! LOL Yet, I couldn't help but

> wonder if I should pay attention to the fact that he

> said his body hurt all over. Is that a common side

> effect, due to the metals being stirred up? The

> hair test indicated that he was high in arsenic,

> antimony, aluminum, and mercury.

>

> I am taking a 100mg capsule from Vitamin Research,

> and dividing it into 6 doses, and giving one dose

> every 4 hours around the clock. Therefore, he is

> getting about 16 to 17 mgs of DMSA every 4 hours.

> He weighs 35 lbs. So he's within Andy's

> recommended dosage guidelines for his weight.

>

> I could divide each DMSA capsule by 8, inside of

> by 6. Or I could increase the amount of selenium

> I'm giving him. (He's currently getting one 200 mcg

> capsule of selenium a day.) Would doing either of

> these help? Any suggestions or info would be

> appreciated!

>

> Thanks!

> Janice

>

>

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> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Janice,

I am using ALA only and I've noticed that sometimes I feel some pain,

especially my back hurts more, but it is a general pain. It is not

something upsetting, because it usually goes away if I rest.

I'm not sure, but I think the bones are the problem here. And I don't

think it's the fact that the minerals are lost, but the contrary.

Valentina

> After dose number 11, he

complained that his body hurt all over, except in his head. I am

assuming that this is from the DMSA. Is that a GOOD sign, in that it

means that it is working, or does it mean that his dosage is too high?

Or is something else wrong?

[Guest guest]

D & J Tobey wrote:

> My five year old recently began chelation, and has now had 12 doses (not

chelation rounds) of DMSA. After dose number 11, he complained that his body

hurt all over, except in his head. I am assuming that this is from the DMSA.

Is that a GOOD sign, in that it means that it is working, or does it mean that

his dosage is too high? Or is something else wrong?

>

> He's not in agony, by the way, and isn't acting sick. He's just as full of

energy, mischief, and playfulness as normal! LOL Yet, I couldn't help but

wonder if I should pay attention to the fact that he said his body hurt all

over. Is that a common side effect, due to the metals being stirred up? The

hair test indicated that he was high in arsenic, antimony, aluminum, and

mercury.

>

> I am taking a 100mg capsule from Vitamin Research, and dividing it into 6

doses, and giving one dose every 4 hours around the clock. Therefore, he is

getting about 16 to 17 mgs of DMSA every 4 hours. He weighs 35 lbs. So he's

within Andy's recommended dosage guidelines for his weight.

>

> I could divide each DMSA capsule by 8, inside of by 6. Or I could increase

the amount of selenium I'm giving him. (He's currently getting one 200 mcg

capsule of selenium a day.) Would doing either of these help? Any suggestions

or info would be appreciated!

>

> Thanks!

> Janice

>

Does he have a yeast problem? it could be the yeast bothering him.

[Guest guest]

I have had pain in various parts of my body during chelation. It was very

frequently at first. I have also had severe headaches. I suspect you are

seeing a side effect that will lessen with future cycles. I've done 33 rounds -

started ALA after the first 3 months.

Carmen

D & J Tobey wrote:

> My five year old recently began chelation, and has now had 12 doses (not

chelation rounds) of DMSA. After dose number 11, he complained that his body

hurt all over, except in his head. I am assuming that this is from the DMSA.

Is that a GOOD sign, in that it means that it is working, or does it mean that

his dosage is too high? Or is something else wrong?

[Guest guest]

Hi Tana,

In my case, I think my bones are finally getting some minerals, after

a very long time of not getting much. I say this because since I was

12 I had LOTS of problems with bones. They were always too fragile...

Once (for example) I had two ribs broken, just like that... I wasn't

doing anything special... Well, I was cleaning my house (this happened

about 10 years ago). When I was 12 I started to lose my teeth. I don't

have much left now... Actually my teeth are so soft, they lost

the minerals so much, that my dentist thinks that they will need very

soon to be... replaced permanently. She told me she never saw anything

like this before. The bones that were shown in xrays a year ago are

not there anymore now. Well, they are, but you can't see them anymore

because they lost minerals in the meantime.

I tell you these things to understand that my problems are real, I'm

not just imagining or " think so " .

These days... it's too long to explain but there were some wonderful,

absolutely extraordinary changes in my body. My skin changed, my hair

finally is growing, I don't need my glasses anymore... lots of

changes...

Because I generally feel great, I think it's normal to believe that

the pain that I feel in my bones is because somehow they are

regenerating if I can say so. Or whatever... I don't know a good word

to describe it, but the idea is that I think I stopped losing

minerals.

Valentina

> Hi Valentina,

> I don't think I understand what you mean by the contrary. Would you

mind

> explaining a little more what you mean.

> Thanks,

> Tana

[Guest guest]

> > I tell you these things to understand that my problems

> > are real, I'm

> > not just imagining or " think so " .

> I don't think anybody on this list would have told you that

> you were imagining,

Sorry, that was a bad formulation I didn't mean to say that anybody

would think my problems are not real. I only wanted to make it

obvious... something like that

Valentina

[Guest guest]

> > I tell you these things to understand that my problems are real,

I'm

> > not just imagining or " think so " .

>

> I don't think anybody on this list would have told you that you were

> imagining, doctors (most, not all) on the other hand seem to think

that if

> they don't understand what is happening that one is imagining it.

And the frequency of psychiatric referrals for female patients is

directly related to how attractive they are. I kid you not, I counted

some statistics on this when I was in my " sick phase " and was talking

to lots of doc's and to lots of other people seeing doc's.

Men, of course, get very few psychiatric referrals since EVERYONE

KNOWS they don't complain about stuff that isn't so.

Another one of those 'interesting' habits of thought apparently

induced by an AMA accredited medical school education.

Andy