Guest guest Posted January 22, 2002 Report Share Posted January 22, 2002 HI MY NAME IS VICKI LOWERY AND I AM INTRESTED IN KNOWING WHAT TMG IS AND HOW IT IS GIVEN TO THE CHILD??(PILL FORM OR LIQUID) AND WHAT SUPPLEMENTS DO YOU RECOMMEND FOR CHILDREN LIKE MY SON WHO IS ONLY 5 AND CANT SWALLOW PILLS YET. THANKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2002 Report Share Posted January 22, 2002 In the Summer of 2000, I had read about DMG helping some autistic kids. So, I started na on it and saw some improvements, the improvements were slow, but there. More eye contact and she started recognizing her father. I upped the dose a little and saw a little more. This went on until she was getting 5 125mg a day, there was no further improvement by giving her 6. I was reluctant to try taking her off of it, but there came a time when we ran out and would be unable to get more for a few days (the closest town that had it is 40 min. away and we just couldn't get there). There were no regressions. She was on it for a year and has been off of it for 6 months. Since then I have been hearing of TMG. What is the difference? And did anyone start their kid on DMG then switch to TMG and get better results? Does it also need to be accompanied by other B vitamins? I appreciate any input from anyone using TMG. Thanks, Tana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2002 Report Share Posted January 22, 2002 Hi Tana, DMG was the first thing which helped to my son (3 years old). I saw improvements almost immediately, he became more active and interested in the world. I noticed this progress as soon as I started DMG, and I had him for 3 months on DMG. He performed on the same level which he reached in first several days. After that I switched to TMG. The result was very impressive, and I could see it immediately. His eye contact became just normal, stereotyped behaviors diminished greatly and some of them disappeared, and instead of running and lying on the floor he started playing with toys. Teeth grinding disappeared. I had TMG without B12 and folic acid, and several nights after that could not sleep. He was very happy and still wanted to play and investigate the world at night, but I was very tired. I ordered TMG with B12 and folic acid, and we started sleeping during the night again. Performance was a little bit worse. I tried to switch several times between preparations with b12 and folic acid and without them, it seems that he performs a little bit better on pure TMG formula but every time we have sleepless night on it. I am very interested to hear about other kids who improved with TMG or DMG. It shows to some type of biochemistry. What other treatments did help? Margaret > In the Summer of 2000, I had read about DMG helping some autistic kids. So, > I started na on it and saw some improvements, the improvements were > slow, but there. More eye contact and she started recognizing her father. I > upped the dose a little and saw a little more. This went on until she was > getting 5 125mg a day, there was no further improvement by giving her 6. I > was reluctant to try taking her off of it, but there came a time when we ran > out and would be unable to get more for a few days (the closest town that > had it is 40 min. away and we just couldn't get there). There were no > regressions. She was on it for a year and has been off of it for 6 months. > Since then I have been hearing of TMG. What is the difference? And did > anyone start their kid on DMG then switch to TMG and get better results? > Does it also need to be accompanied by other B vitamins? I appreciate any > input from anyone using TMG. > > Thanks, > Tana > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2002 Report Share Posted January 22, 2002 Some chemical information but no practical experience: TMG is DMG with another methyl group stuck on the nitrogen. TMG is thought of more as a methyl source, which helps vitamins B-12 and folic acid do their things. However, once the methyl group comes off it IS DMG. Andy > In the Summer of 2000, I had read about DMG helping some autistic kids. So, > I started na on it and saw some improvements, the improvements were > slow, but there. More eye contact and she started recognizing her father. I > upped the dose a little and saw a little more. This went on until she was > getting 5 125mg a day, there was no further improvement by giving her 6. I > was reluctant to try taking her off of it, but there came a time when we ran > out and would be unable to get more for a few days (the closest town that > had it is 40 min. away and we just couldn't get there). There were no > regressions. She was on it for a year and has been off of it for 6 months. > Since then I have been hearing of TMG. What is the difference? And did > anyone start their kid on DMG then switch to TMG and get better results? > Does it also need to be accompanied by other B vitamins? I appreciate any > input from anyone using TMG. > > Thanks, > Tana > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2002 Report Share Posted January 22, 2002 I buy TMG from Kirkman Labs http://www.kirkmanlabs.com . They have it in liquid, powder and capsules. You can try liquid or powder (my son swallows capsules - I put them inside banana) Margaret > HI MY NAME IS VICKI LOWERY AND I AM INTRESTED IN KNOWING WHAT TMG IS AND HOW > IT IS GIVEN TO THE CHILD??(PILL FORM OR LIQUID) AND WHAT SUPPLEMENTS DO YOU > RECOMMEND FOR CHILDREN LIKE MY SON WHO IS ONLY 5 AND CANT SWALLOW PILLS YET. > THANKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2002 Report Share Posted January 23, 2002 Hi Tana, TMG is the " big brother " of DMG and is stronger. Given for the samer reasons, it is linked to helping make gains in speech. Come is liquid from Kirkmans, nice flavor, you start 1/2 t twice a day and build up to a teaspoon twice a day. My son has been on it 3 months as we are slowely moving up to 2 teaspoons twice a day. You move slow because it can make them stimmy or hyper if you move to fast. I am not sure if it has helped or not, simply becuase he has been improving steadly all along. I never saw anything with DMG, however, and that is why we are trying this. cab [ ] TMG & DMG > In the Summer of 2000, I had read about DMG helping some autistic kids. So, > I started na on it and saw some improvements, the improvements were > slow, but there. More eye contact and she started recognizing her father. I > upped the dose a little and saw a little more. This went on until she was > getting 5 125mg a day, there was no further improvement by giving her 6. I > was reluctant to try taking her off of it, but there came a time when we ran > out and would be unable to get more for a few days (the closest town that > had it is 40 min. away and we just couldn't get there). There were no > regressions. She was on it for a year and has been off of it for 6 months. > Since then I have been hearing of TMG. What is the difference? And did > anyone start their kid on DMG then switch to TMG and get better results? > Does it also need to be accompanied by other B vitamins? I appreciate any > input from anyone using TMG. > > Thanks, > Tana > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2002 Report Share Posted January 24, 2002 I used dmg for a while with my boys. I saw alot of improvements. When I heard of Tmg, I read up on it. It is the same as dmg, but with one more methyl group. It produces seratonin and naturally produces SAMe. I made the switch and I've seen even more improvements, especially in behavior, than I did with the dmg. I did notice that there was some hyperactivity, but when I added two 800mcg of folic acid with the tmg dose, it took care of that. Hope this helped. You can learn more about it at the kirkman labs website. They have some interresting articles on different products for autism. www.kirkmanlabs.com. God bless, Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2002 Report Share Posted January 24, 2002 Hi Sharon, It looks like my boy has something common with your boys. Could you please tell me what other supplements and treatments helped to your boys? Thank you, Margaret > I used dmg for a while with my boys. I saw alot of improvements. When I heard > of Tmg, I read up on it. It is the same as dmg, but with one more methyl > group. It produces seratonin and naturally produces SAMe. I made the switch > and I've seen even more improvements, especially in behavior, than I did with > the dmg. I did notice that there was some hyperactivity, but when I added two > 800mcg of folic acid with the tmg dose, it took care of that. Hope this > helped. You can learn more about it at the kirkman labs website. They have > some interresting articles on different products for autism. > www.kirkmanlabs.com. God bless, Sharon > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2002 Report Share Posted January 26, 2002 After several months without liquid TMG, I put my son on the capsules w/ folic acid & B12. He had changed schools and was a bit stressed with new schedules, etc. So was I! We are both calmer & more focussed after 3-5 days (faster for him than me). TMG has a number of great properties in addition to increased SAMe, such as protection from myelin destructive antibodies. There are good articles at kirkmanlab.com and vrp.com, as well as other sources. Some kids need extra folic acid to convert the TMG and will be hyper without extra supplementation. Some adults (count me in) find TMG very helpful in reducing the effects of stress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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