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I just had my fourth electro-cardioversion. I lasted about 12-14

hours in NSR before reverting to afib. I do have a pacemaker which

helps but I still get fatigued much easier when in afib. I've failed

on dronedarone and amiodarone. I've been in chronic afib for about a

year. With my underlying cardiomyopathy, the only drug left to try

is dofetilide (tikosyn). Is anyone else in the group in permanent

afib that cannot be cardioverted? i'm looking for ideas on how to

manage it if no drugs work at all.

thanks

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I had five electrocardioversions, some lasted two days, the longest was two

weeks and then I went back into Afib. I am sad to read that you have a pacemaker

and still go into Afib. I had catheter ablation and then a pacemaker implanted

about ten days. My EP assured me that the pacemaker would keep me from going

into Afib again. I had lots of side effects from most of the heart meds,

including atenolol, sotalol and especially ameordarone. Now am off all meds

except coumadin.

Irene

Chronic/Permanent Afib

I just had my fourth electro-cardioversion. I lasted about 12-14

hours in NSR before reverting to afib. I do have a pacemaker which

helps but I still get fatigued much easier when in afib. I've failed

on dronedarone and amiodarone. I've been in chronic afib for about a

year. With my underlying cardiomyopathy, the only drug left to try

is dofetilide (tikosyn). Is anyone else in the group in permanent

afib that cannot be cardioverted? i'm looking for ideas on how to

manage it if no drugs work at all.

thanks

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> I just had my fourth electro-cardioversion. I lasted about 12-14

> hours in NSR before reverting to afib. I do have a pacemaker which

> helps but I still get fatigued much easier when in afib. I've

failed

> on dronedarone and amiodarone. I've been in chronic afib for about

a

> year. With my underlying cardiomyopathy, the only drug left to try

> is dofetilide (tikosyn).

Hi, I think it's too soon to give up on drugs - Ellen was in much the

same situation as you when Tikosyn worked for her. Also, there is

the maze procedure, but I don't know if that is appropriate when

there is cardiomyopathy. On the other hand, if your cardiomyopathy

is the result of long term uncontrolled tachycardia when in afib,

getting back to normal rhythm should eventually restore your heart,

as I understand it.

I wouldn't be depressed by the electrocardioversions failing. MY

understanding is that it is unusual for them to result in long term

periods in sinus for most people. They don;t address the basic

problem.

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Ladies: Thanks for the guidance. I am a little discouraged. My

issue when in afib has always been that my ventricular rate dropped

out the bottom (40 bpm or so). Of course, the pacemaker fixed that

issue. I haven't found a lot of other afibbers with my set of

circumstances (underlying cardiomyopathy, bradycardia corrected by

pacemaker and chronic afib) I've been on amiodarone for about 40 days

and I think we'll probably either stay on it another 30 days and try

cardioversion again or try Tikosyn. I'd sure like to feel good

again. We really don't know which came first, the cardiomyopathy or

the afib, but I think the cardiomyopathy led to the afib.

Dadzilla

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> Ladies: Thanks for the guidance. I am a little discouraged

What kind of cardiomyopathy do you have? My Mom had hypertrophic

(sp?) cardiomyopathy and afib, but she managed to achieve good

control of the afib. Does your doc have any thoughts about which

came first?

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Dear Dadzilla:

The way my husband's EP explained it to us, the A-Fib causes

the cardiomyopathy. You're tachy for long periods of time

(sometimes, as in my husband's case, without knowing it) and

your heart damages itself trying to keep up. Then it poops out!

My husband is on a combination of Altase, Digoxin, and Coreg

for the cardiomyopathy, and the good news is, it's working!! He

had a repeat echo on Monday, and the enlargement is resolved,

PLUS his expulsion rate has improved from 35 to 60!!! He

started on Rhythmol Tuesday, the EP is hoping that will put him

into NSR. Good luck with your search for answers. I know it can

be frustrating!

Love,

Diane.

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> I have two friends, male, ages 55-61, who have

> been in permanent afib

> for 1-4 years. What's interesting is that they

> are relatively

> undisturbed by it, take their Coumadin and Beta

> Blockers, and

> continue on with normal lives. Some people are

> lucky. I wait for

> the next bout, although have been bout-free for

> a year with meds. I

> guess I'm lucky also.

> Mac Coffey, 63

Dear Mac:

Dave has been in chronic A-Fib for somewhere

around a year. He never noticed it. He was dx'd

when he went in to get abx for a respiratory infection...

=====

Love,

Diane.

http://babiesonline.com/babies/e/evankyle

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Check out Focal Point Ablation to cure your A-Fib. I had A-Fib and was

completely cured four years ago. I put together a Web site with a list

of Doctors and Medical Facilities that perform this

procedure---http://www.a-fib.com. It takes about two hours under local

anesthetic. Most A-Fib

comes from the left atrium pulmonary veins. The doctors simply zap those

areas so they don't produce A-Fib signals.

dadzilla50 wrote:

> I just had my fourth electro-cardioversion. I lasted about 12-14

> hours in NSR before reverting to afib. I do have a pacemaker which

> helps but I still get fatigued much easier when in afib. I've failed

> on dronedarone and amiodarone. I've been in chronic afib for about a

> year. With my underlying cardiomyopathy, the only drug left to try

> is dofetilide (tikosyn). Is anyone else in the group in permanent

> afib that cannot be cardioverted? i'm looking for ideas on how to

> manage it if no drugs work at all.

>

> thanks

>

>

>

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Check out Focal Point Ablation to cure your A-Fib. I had A-Fib and was

completely cured four years ago. I put together a Web site with a list

of Doctors and Medical Facilities that perform this

procedure---http://www.a-fib.com. It takes about two hours under local

anesthetic. Most A-Fib

comes from the left atrium pulmonary veins. The doctors simply zap those

areas so they don't produce A-Fib signals.

dadzilla50 wrote:

> I just had my fourth electro-cardioversion. I lasted about 12-14

> hours in NSR before reverting to afib. I do have a pacemaker which

> helps but I still get fatigued much easier when in afib. I've failed

> on dronedarone and amiodarone. I've been in chronic afib for about a

> year. With my underlying cardiomyopathy, the only drug left to try

> is dofetilide (tikosyn). Is anyone else in the group in permanent

> afib that cannot be cardioverted? i'm looking for ideas on how to

> manage it if no drugs work at all.

>

> thanks

>

>

>

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Check out Focal Point Ablation to cure your A-Fib. I had A-Fib and was

completely cured four years ago. I put together a Web site with a list

of Doctors and Medical Facilities that perform this

procedure---http://www.a-fib.com. It takes about two hours under local

anesthetic. Most A-Fib

comes from the left atrium pulmonary veins. The doctors simply zap those

areas so they don't produce A-Fib signals.

dadzilla50 wrote:

> I just had my fourth electro-cardioversion. I lasted about 12-14

> hours in NSR before reverting to afib. I do have a pacemaker which

> helps but I still get fatigued much easier when in afib. I've failed

> on dronedarone and amiodarone. I've been in chronic afib for about a

> year. With my underlying cardiomyopathy, the only drug left to try

> is dofetilide (tikosyn). Is anyone else in the group in permanent

> afib that cannot be cardioverted? i'm looking for ideas on how to

> manage it if no drugs work at all.

>

> thanks

>

>

>

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I put together a Web site with a list

> of Doctors and Medical Facilities that perform this

> procedure---http://www.a-fib.com

I tired to look at your site but for mosme reason the page cannot be

displayed. Is there a problem with the address?

Thanks

Fran

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Hi Fran I got through, and it is a really nice piece of work for the

site, but it seems to center around only one person, and all the experiences

are for that one person, and then it asks if you want to donate money to his

site. Oh well, any information gained, makes a person better prepared. Take

care, Walt in SC and still hot, but you really sent the rain, 3 days in a

row, and we needed it. Hope that you got some sun.

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>

> I put together a Web site with a list

> > of Doctors and Medical Facilities that perform this

> > procedure---http://www.a-fib.com

>

> I tired to look at your site but for mosme reason the page cannot be

> displayed. Is there a problem with the address?

>

> Thanks

>

> Fran

>

>

>

> Web Page - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AFIBsupport

> FAQ -

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AFIBsupport/files/Administrative/faq.htm

> For more information: http://www.dialsolutions.com/af

> Unsubscribe: AFIBsupport-unsubscribe

> List owner: AFIBsupport-owner

> For help on how to use the group, including how to drive it via email,

> send a blank email to AFIBsupport-help

>

> Nothing in this message should be considered as medical advice, or should

be acted upon without consultation with one's physician.

>

>

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Yes I finally got through to the site. It was good layout and looked very

professional, but as you say it only revolved around 1 persons experience. I

didn't find anything new although I thought I had found a new bulletin

board, but it was a link to Hans Larsens site. Perhaps Steve would like to

link this site in to to give people a wider perspective.

Glad you are appreciating the rain. We got the one day of sun and are back

to overcast, but at least there is no rain.

Take care

Fran

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>

>

> >

> > I put together a Web site with a list

> > > of Doctors and Medical Facilities that perform this

> > > procedure---http://www.a-fib.com

> >

> > I tired to look at your site but for mosme reason the page cannot be

> > displayed. Is there a problem with the address?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Fran

> >

> >

> >

> > Web Page - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AFIBsupport

> > FAQ -

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AFIBsupport/files/Administrative/faq.htm

> > For more information: http://www.dialsolutions.com/af

> > Unsubscribe: AFIBsupport-unsubscribe

> > List owner: AFIBsupport-owner

> > For help on how to use the group, including how to drive it via email,

> > send a blank email to AFIBsupport-help

> >

> > Nothing in this message should be considered as medical advice, or

should

> be acted upon without consultation with one's physician.

> >

> >

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