Chat: Re: Weight Gain?? --> Chris

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Hi :-)

_No_ offense taken :-)

Lazy was not implied by the repost but, easy-fix was because I feel so badly

for those that chase dreams while living reality. The two don't mix. Reality is

reality and dreams are dreams. Dreaming can only change reality.. over time...

Imagination is what links the two. And if one can dream of losing weight (good)

and use imagination sprinkled with facts of reality ie. reducing calories

(good), weight loss might just become as real for them as it has for me. To

achieve this requires a profound psychological change, a re-make, re-do of

thinking, of mind.

Without actually saying it.. I was gently trying to save headaches and

heartaches for those of whom so desperately want to lose weight. and spend both

time and money, but to no avail.

" The " nutriceutical industry "

makes billions of dollars because they do not test nor prove the

safety of anything they sell. All they need to do is advertise and

bank on the supreme gullibility of the American public. This works

well for them. Don't be their dupes. " (Dr. Ain)

I am a very sensitive person and observe people and things in life in a

vary dignified light.

I make fun of no one.. because of race, color or creed nor of their looks,

speech or dress:-)

I _know_ that there are many who have metabolic processes that make

exquisite use of any nourishment. And these are those that tend to gain and keep

unwanted pounds.

We keep seeing references that say that the thyroid gland controls body

metabolism, but can't prove it by me because with a tsh of 0.02 I should be back

to skinny, again. Nothing has changed with the way I gain or lose weight,

neither before or after thyroid removal. I think that the thyroid _does_

control cell metabolism but only the RATE at which speed a cell does it's work.

What the _whole_ organism (body) does with calories I think, is much more

complex, involved and controlled than just by the thyroid, alone. The idea of

the thyroid being the metabolic control factor for gaining/losing weight is just

too simple an idea.

As a kid.. I was skinny and tried everything that I could think of to _gain_

weight. When weight-gain was no longer my interest and I stopped thinking about

it, years later... guess what :-) I started-to-gain. Not much, but a little

at a time until I became 40 pounds over the weight that I.. wanted to be. (the

hell with the charts)

And I found that by eating less (fewer calories) I stopped gaining. Reducing

caloric intake even more... and I actually started to lose weight. When I want

to lose weight, I find that I must reduce intake so as to consume in _3_ days

what it was that I was consuming _every_ day. I lost 30 of the forty lbs. by

eating this way. But my love of eating takes me up a fast 10-12 lbs. before I

even notice it.

Once I've lost the weight ... if I really pay attention... and consume in 2

days what I used to consume in one... then I pretty much stay at the lost-weight

figure. It ain't fun, I know. But I feel physically better. Consuming less does

work for me. A lot less!

There's a fellow whom I have worked with for the past 20+ years. 3 years ago

he was up to 385 lbs. and was at great risk of dying. He didn't feel too bad

with the extra 200 lbs. and use to kid me about how stuffed I said I was feeling

with my +40 lbs.

He had surgery to reduce the size of his stomach, through which he lost 200

lbs. He stayed at the reduced weight for about a year, until he felt fully

recovered. Then he started to snack a little bit.. then more and now he's up to

275. (from 185) And.. he keeps eating. While he watched his intake.. he gained

no weight, but now.....................

I dunno, I.. really.. dunno.......

Sincerely,

Nick

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Illness has taken us on a journey not of our own choosing. And in order to

survive and become whole again (both in body & mind) we must learn new skills

and the use of new " tools " . We will never be the same. (nor would I want to be)

This illness, like a broken bone,

will.. with proper care cause both my mind and body to become stronger, than

ever before. This illness was/is an opportunity for profound growth and I will

make good use of the opportunity.

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At 6/26/01 06:00 PM, you wrote:

>Oh ,

>I just LOVE your idea! I especially like the idea of having the endo-

>to-be publish their weight in a medical journal. ;o)

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>And, Nick, your " repost " regarding Weight Gain is a " case in point. "

>It is exactly what I'm talking about hearing over and over. It's the

>same song, one millionth verse.

>Please don't take this personally, Nick, because it's not aimed at

>you whatsoever:

>And I think I speak for a lot of people when I say: We (overweight

>people) are sick and tired of being depicted as " lazy " and " lookin'

>for an easy fix. " It doesn't have to quick or easy--it just has to

>WORK! I would settle for a slow fix as long as I could see some

>measure of progress. IF the weight loss equation of: Less Calories +

>More Exercise = Weight Loss, worked for everyone, then we wouldn't

>HAVE to keep looking for answers.

>--Chris

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