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Hi: I started on Tambocor about 2 months ago very low dose 50mg

twice a day....and now I am on l00mg twice per day. My mood is

much better since I have started the Tambocor. I do watch every bite

I take staying away from fortified foods...... You must have a high

potassium and high calcium diet and watch your magnesium

intake...there are the great regulators of the heart's rhythm. But

if you are taking potassium sparing meds in addition don't increase

your potassium..Just ask your doc or nurse or your pharmacist.I

suggest you be on a low carb, low fat, low soduim diet, a diabetic

diet is the best for general health.....Drink lots of water (low

salt water) and have some faith that you will soon feel better if

you get out of your slump and start doing things for yourself. Are

you taking some other meds? Which are those? Are you on Coumadin

and/or Aspirin also?....that is the recommended protocol. What are

your hemoglobin and hematocrit levels?....a female should have a l4

hgb and a 42 hmt....this helps to prevent blood clots. If your

hemoglobin is higher go on a very low iron diet avoid red meat and

eat more fish as soon as you make up your mind. Have lots of fresh

fruit and vegetables. These are just my opinions and the

suggestions should not be construed as medical advice. Let me

know whether I was able to make you feel supported and remember I

wish you the best and that you start feeling better real soon.

Isabelle

> Thanks for this group. I no longer

> feel so alone. Anyway I have been

> diagnosed with Vagal Atrial Fib.

> Have had it quite a few years without

> needing drugs but it has been getting

> worse. So about six weeks ago my

> Cardiologist/EP started me on Tambocor

> 50 mg twice a day and upped it to Tambocor 100 mg twice a day. I

must

> admit my heart feels the best it has

> been in ages...I can now take my

> pulse for a full minute without any

> skipping but, now you all knew this

> was coming, I feel crummy. Since

> starting this I feel lightheaded,

> whoozy, unsteady equilibrium (only

> feel this way have not fallen) and

> am now feeling tremors with some

> fingers jerking. Sounds like some

> of the side effects in PDR but would

> like anyone elses input. Nothing else

> has changed in my life and I am starting

> to get worried. The effects seem to be getting worse...first it

was only lightheadedness. Will it stabilize at some point? Read

some posts that things stabilize after a couple of months but I

> cant continue like this for that long.

> Thanks for any input.

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> ...Tambocor 100 mg twice a day. I must

> admit my heart feels the best it has

> been in ages...I can now take my

> pulse for a full minute without any

> skipping but, now you all knew this

> was coming, I feel crummy.

I know how you feel. I hated taking toprol, a beta blocker, for the

first several months. It made me lethargic, light-headed, I slept

too much, etc.

Well, time has gone by and I have adjusted. Some of it is the

effects have worn off, and some of it is I have just gotten used to

them.

For me, the giant payoff was discovering that as the dosage

increased, the noticeable extra beats, etc, markedly decreased, since

toprol tends to suppress them. I used to get very anxious because I

would feel an extra beat, etc. every 10-15 minutes, so the heart

problem was " in my face " constantly. Gettig rid of that is worth

being lethargic to me.

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Tremors and jerking are a side effect of Tambacor. I also got pulsating

light and runs of Tachycardia. So my Dr took me off it after three days.

I'm not sure if your body hets used to the tremors. Maybe you could get

feedback from someone else on that.

Fran

Tambocor

> Thanks for this group. I no longer

> feel so alone. Anyway I have been

> diagnosed with Vagal Atrial Fib.

> Have had it quite a few years without

> needing drugs but it has been getting

> worse. So about six weeks ago my

> Cardiologist/EP started me on Tambocor

> 50 mg twice a day and upped it to Tambocor 100 mg twice a day. I must

> admit my heart feels the best it has

> been in ages...I can now take my

> pulse for a full minute without any

> skipping but, now you all knew this

> was coming, I feel crummy. Since

> starting this I feel lightheaded,

> whoozy, unsteady equilibrium (only

> feel this way have not fallen) and

> am now feeling tremors with some

> fingers jerking. Sounds like some

> of the side effects in PDR but would

> like anyone elses input. Nothing else

> has changed in my life and I am starting

> to get worried. The effects seem to be getting worse...first it was only

lightheadedness. Will it stabilize at some point? Read some posts that

things stabilize after a couple of months but I

> cant continue like this for that long.

> Thanks for any input.

>

>

>

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That may be so for some people, but I have seen no such effects. There

are many possible side effects for most any drug. I went into afib this

morning as a result of my alarm clock going off. My instructions from

the cardiologist are to take 300 mg Tambocor (double my normal dose) and

wait 24 hours. Even at that dose, the effects are tolerable (mostly

visual only).

I found this table on a web page earlier today, and thought it was

interesting. The whole paper can be found at:

http://www.mcmahonmed.com/wworks/CHARTS/afib/default.html

If you do check this link, try to get past the technical explanations on

the front end, there is a lot of good material near the middle and end,

specifically first line and second line approached to certain

situations.

_________

Rates for Intolerance*

<10%

propafenone

flecainide

moricizine

Sotalol

15%-40%

amiodarone

>20%-30%

quinidine

procainamide

disopyramide

mexiletine

*Rates may vary depending on dosage and disease state.

Based on author's experience and composite of trials such as ESVEM,

CAST, CAST II, CASCADE, IMPACT, CAPS, Reimold et al, Juul-Moller, EMIAT,

CAMIAT.

___________

Re: Tambocor

Tremors and jerking are a side effect of Tambacor. I also got pulsating

light and runs of Tachycardia. So my Dr took me off it after three days.

I'm not sure if your body hets used to the tremors. Maybe you could get

feedback from someone else on that.

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When i first started taking Tambocor (about 1,5 month ago) I noticed

that my heart rate went up. I told my cardiologist and he said it

was safer to combine it with the beta blocker I took before.

So now I take 20 mg Inderal and 100 mg TAmbocor.

I experience (mostly at nicht ) a faster heart beat, dizzyness.

I hope this will go away; if not I will ask my doctor to try another

med.

Maura

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> I found this table on a web page earlier today, and thought it was

> interesting. The whole paper can be found at:

> http://www.mcmahonmed.com/wworks/CHARTS/afib/default.html

What's the acid-base alterations trigger it talks about, anyone

know? I wore out trying to get thru the whole paper, but I didn't

see anything anywhere about what it meant.

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> I found this table on a web page earlier today, and thought it was

> interesting. The whole paper can be found at:

> http://www.mcmahonmed.com/wworks/CHARTS/afib/default.html

What's the acid-base alterations trigger it talks about, anyone

know? I wore out trying to get thru the whole paper, but I didn't

see anything anywhere about what it meant.

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Hi : I think that they are referring to diet and homeostasis and

how our body tries to maintain our blood (basically alkaline).

This is somewhat symplistic but an example of this is: if our blood

is acidic then the kidneys have trouble eliminating waste material

because the kidneys are basically in an acid state. But, if our

blood is alkaline than the kidneys can do their job.

I read in the literature that strict vegetarians who basically have

an alkaline diet (lots of fruits, veggies,yogurt and very little

complete protein like fish,cheese,eggs etc) makes them eliminate

Tamb. at a slower rate than if someone partakes of the American diet

which is lots of protein(acid base diet essentially) and very

little veggies and fruit. Please remember that most fruit produce

an alkaline ash including citrus fruit and tomat....but

plums,blueberries and cranberries are basically acid.(blueberries

have recently been added to this list)I don't know if that helps you

clarify the article. I seem to have missed the part about the

trigger for acid-base alteration. But, I presume that's what they

are talking about.

I am still in AFIB. I am still in AFIB since Thursday...pulse is at

ll6 in bed. I have a 6 headache. What should I do? I tried the

face in an ice bowl....didn't work....I felt I could drown!!!!!!!

Doesn't afib cause remodeling of the heart and long-term

is ...........!!Somebody please give me relevant information....I am

very very anxious and afraid even after taking Paxil for two

afternoons, I have to wait until it kicks in which will take another

5 days. Going to see my Cardiologist again at one today at l PM

Thanks, Isabelle

> > I found this table on a web page earlier today, and thought it

was

> > interesting. The whole paper can be found at:

> > http://www.mcmahonmed.com/wworks/CHARTS/afib/default.html

>

> What's the acid-base alterations trigger it talks about, anyone

> know? I wore out trying to get thru the whole paper, but I didn't

> see anything anywhere about what it meant.

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Hi : I think that they are referring to diet and homeostasis and

how our body tries to maintain our blood (basically alkaline).

This is somewhat symplistic but an example of this is: if our blood

is acidic then the kidneys have trouble eliminating waste material

because the kidneys are basically in an acid state. But, if our

blood is alkaline than the kidneys can do their job.

I read in the literature that strict vegetarians who basically have

an alkaline diet (lots of fruits, veggies,yogurt and very little

complete protein like fish,cheese,eggs etc) makes them eliminate

Tamb. at a slower rate than if someone partakes of the American diet

which is lots of protein(acid base diet essentially) and very

little veggies and fruit. Please remember that most fruit produce

an alkaline ash including citrus fruit and tomat....but

plums,blueberries and cranberries are basically acid.(blueberries

have recently been added to this list)I don't know if that helps you

clarify the article. I seem to have missed the part about the

trigger for acid-base alteration. But, I presume that's what they

are talking about.

I am still in AFIB. I am still in AFIB since Thursday...pulse is at

ll6 in bed. I have a 6 headache. What should I do? I tried the

face in an ice bowl....didn't work....I felt I could drown!!!!!!!

Doesn't afib cause remodeling of the heart and long-term

is ...........!!Somebody please give me relevant information....I am

very very anxious and afraid even after taking Paxil for two

afternoons, I have to wait until it kicks in which will take another

5 days. Going to see my Cardiologist again at one today at l PM

Thanks, Isabelle

> > I found this table on a web page earlier today, and thought it

was

> > interesting. The whole paper can be found at:

> > http://www.mcmahonmed.com/wworks/CHARTS/afib/default.html

>

> What's the acid-base alterations trigger it talks about, anyone

> know? I wore out trying to get thru the whole paper, but I didn't

> see anything anywhere about what it meant.

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> I am still in AFIB. I am still in AFIB since Thursday...pulse is

at

> ll6 in bed. I have a 6 headache. What should I do? I tried the

> face in an ice bowl....didn't work....I felt I could drown!!!!!!!

> Doesn't afib cause remodeling of the heart and long-term

> is ...........!!Somebody please give me relevant information....I

am

> very very anxious and afraid even after taking Paxil for two

> afternoons, I have to wait until it kicks in which will take

another

> 5 days. Going to see my Cardiologist again at one today at l PM

> Thanks, Isabelle

Hi, Isabelle,

I would not worry too much about your heart remodeling itself. We

have had people in here who have been in afib for month(s?) and then

have gone back into sinus. I believe , who has now been in sinus

for what, two months? had a very long episode like that.

The (very) long term thing you are probably referring to is the heart

can stretch. However, that will reverse itself once you go back into

sinus.

I have never found anything like the ice water etc. to put me back

into sinus. For me, it's just more beta blocker to suppress some of

the extra beats that contribute to afib, and also to slow my heart

rate, and trying to rest and relax.

Why don't you ask the cardiologist this afternoon what he or she

plans to help bring you out of this?

How does this compare to your previous episodes of afib?

I will make a guess that the tenancy work and stress of the accident

may have interrupted your transition back to sinus, and now you just

need longer to transition. I know that after I have been fibbing, it

takes about a week of being very careful before I am solidly in

sinus. Up to then, the least little thing will start me having

little episodes.

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> I am still in AFIB. I am still in AFIB since Thursday...pulse is

at

> ll6 in bed. I have a 6 headache. What should I do? I tried the

> face in an ice bowl....didn't work....I felt I could drown!!!!!!!

> Doesn't afib cause remodeling of the heart and long-term

> is ...........!!Somebody please give me relevant information....I

am

> very very anxious and afraid even after taking Paxil for two

> afternoons, I have to wait until it kicks in which will take

another

> 5 days. Going to see my Cardiologist again at one today at l PM

> Thanks, Isabelle

Hi, Isabelle,

I would not worry too much about your heart remodeling itself. We

have had people in here who have been in afib for month(s?) and then

have gone back into sinus. I believe , who has now been in sinus

for what, two months? had a very long episode like that.

The (very) long term thing you are probably referring to is the heart

can stretch. However, that will reverse itself once you go back into

sinus.

I have never found anything like the ice water etc. to put me back

into sinus. For me, it's just more beta blocker to suppress some of

the extra beats that contribute to afib, and also to slow my heart

rate, and trying to rest and relax.

Why don't you ask the cardiologist this afternoon what he or she

plans to help bring you out of this?

How does this compare to your previous episodes of afib?

I will make a guess that the tenancy work and stress of the accident

may have interrupted your transition back to sinus, and now you just

need longer to transition. I know that after I have been fibbing, it

takes about a week of being very careful before I am solidly in

sinus. Up to then, the least little thing will start me having

little episodes.

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In a message dated 8/28/2002 1:13:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

forestbedell@... writes:

<< Doesn't afib cause remodeling of the heart and long-term

is ...........!!Somebody please give me relevant information....I am

very very anxious and afraid >>

Isabel,

Some doctors say that long term afib causes remodeling of the heart, but here

I am in my 98th day of straight sinus rhythm. After 19 years of afib and

some sessions as long as eight and ten days, I can still sustain nearly four

months of sinus rhythm. I don't know what is meant by " long term " but I

guess it must be longer than twenty years! Or that assessment is wrong.

Perhaps afib does cause remodeling in some individuals but obviously not in

everyone.

Being very anxious and afraid will just make your afib symptoms worse. Try

to concentrate on something you enjoy doing or remember a pleasant activity

to take your mind off of afib. Also, think about aspects of your current

situation that are positive and enjoyable to take your mind off of the afib.

That's what I used to do in the beginning when I was so fearful but didn't

want to go to the emergency room. You know you aren't going to die from

afib, and it is most likely that you will convert back to sinus soon. I know

how difficult it is to overcome the anxiety associated with afib, but working

at it is definitely worth the effort. It was only after I realized that I

wasn't going to die and became calmer and more accepting that I was able to

live reasonably well with afib. Let us know what your cardiologist says.

Best wishes,

in sinus in Seattle (98th day)

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In a message dated 8/28/2002 1:13:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

forestbedell@... writes:

<< Doesn't afib cause remodeling of the heart and long-term

is ...........!!Somebody please give me relevant information....I am

very very anxious and afraid >>

Isabel,

Some doctors say that long term afib causes remodeling of the heart, but here

I am in my 98th day of straight sinus rhythm. After 19 years of afib and

some sessions as long as eight and ten days, I can still sustain nearly four

months of sinus rhythm. I don't know what is meant by " long term " but I

guess it must be longer than twenty years! Or that assessment is wrong.

Perhaps afib does cause remodeling in some individuals but obviously not in

everyone.

Being very anxious and afraid will just make your afib symptoms worse. Try

to concentrate on something you enjoy doing or remember a pleasant activity

to take your mind off of afib. Also, think about aspects of your current

situation that are positive and enjoyable to take your mind off of the afib.

That's what I used to do in the beginning when I was so fearful but didn't

want to go to the emergency room. You know you aren't going to die from

afib, and it is most likely that you will convert back to sinus soon. I know

how difficult it is to overcome the anxiety associated with afib, but working

at it is definitely worth the effort. It was only after I realized that I

wasn't going to die and became calmer and more accepting that I was able to

live reasonably well with afib. Let us know what your cardiologist says.

Best wishes,

in sinus in Seattle (98th day)

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In a message dated 8/28/2002 1:13:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

forestbedell@... writes:

<< Doesn't afib cause remodeling of the heart and long-term

is ...........!!Somebody please give me relevant information....I am

very very anxious and afraid >>

Isabel,

Some doctors say that long term afib causes remodeling of the heart, but here

I am in my 98th day of straight sinus rhythm. After 19 years of afib and

some sessions as long as eight and ten days, I can still sustain nearly four

months of sinus rhythm. I don't know what is meant by " long term " but I

guess it must be longer than twenty years! Or that assessment is wrong.

Perhaps afib does cause remodeling in some individuals but obviously not in

everyone.

Being very anxious and afraid will just make your afib symptoms worse. Try

to concentrate on something you enjoy doing or remember a pleasant activity

to take your mind off of afib. Also, think about aspects of your current

situation that are positive and enjoyable to take your mind off of the afib.

That's what I used to do in the beginning when I was so fearful but didn't

want to go to the emergency room. You know you aren't going to die from

afib, and it is most likely that you will convert back to sinus soon. I know

how difficult it is to overcome the anxiety associated with afib, but working

at it is definitely worth the effort. It was only after I realized that I

wasn't going to die and became calmer and more accepting that I was able to

live reasonably well with afib. Let us know what your cardiologist says.

Best wishes,

in sinus in Seattle (98th day)

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In a message dated 8/28/2002 3:19:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

forestbedell@... writes:

<< I had

atrial tachycardia and that was slightly less dangerous than afib.

He also increased my Coumadin to l0mg tonight and 7.5mg from now

until next Wednesday....My INR was l.40. Also he upped my Aspirin

to 325mg daily. >>

Isabel,

If I were you, I would think about eating fewer green vegetables (if you are

eating large amounts now) and adding fish and vitamin E to your diet. I have

found those strategies helpful in raising my INR and lowering my Coumadin

dose. However, it's better to take a large dose of Coumadin if you need it

than to have a stroke!

Also, all the doctors I have seen have said that afib is not dangerous in

itself. I think much of your anxiety may arise from your perception of afib

as being dangerous. If it were dangerous, my older brother and I would be

dead by now. He went in and out of afib for a long time before he finally

settled into permanent afib at least twenty years ago. When you have lived

with afib as long as we have, it's hard to think of it as dangerous. I think

of afib as a nuisance which forces me to live my life with many constraints,

but I never think of it as a killer. Afib won't kill you, and the Coumadin

is protecting you against the stroke that could kill you. You really don't

have a reason to be anxious!

in Seattle

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In a message dated 8/28/2002 3:19:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

forestbedell@... writes:

<< I had

atrial tachycardia and that was slightly less dangerous than afib.

He also increased my Coumadin to l0mg tonight and 7.5mg from now

until next Wednesday....My INR was l.40. Also he upped my Aspirin

to 325mg daily. >>

Isabel,

If I were you, I would think about eating fewer green vegetables (if you are

eating large amounts now) and adding fish and vitamin E to your diet. I have

found those strategies helpful in raising my INR and lowering my Coumadin

dose. However, it's better to take a large dose of Coumadin if you need it

than to have a stroke!

Also, all the doctors I have seen have said that afib is not dangerous in

itself. I think much of your anxiety may arise from your perception of afib

as being dangerous. If it were dangerous, my older brother and I would be

dead by now. He went in and out of afib for a long time before he finally

settled into permanent afib at least twenty years ago. When you have lived

with afib as long as we have, it's hard to think of it as dangerous. I think

of afib as a nuisance which forces me to live my life with many constraints,

but I never think of it as a killer. Afib won't kill you, and the Coumadin

is protecting you against the stroke that could kill you. You really don't

have a reason to be anxious!

in Seattle

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Hi: I saw my Card. he was much more friendly and told me I had

atrial tachycardia and that was slightly less dangerous than afib.

He also increased my Coumadin to l0mg tonight and 7.5mg from now

until next Wednesday....My INR was l.40. Also he upped my Aspirin

to 325mg daily. He plans to hospitalize me if I still have a.

tachycardia to electroconvert me.

Thanks so much for your time and I cannot tell you how much your

great support is helping me. Regards, Isabelle

> > I am still in AFIB. I am still in AFIB since Thursday...pulse

is

> at

> > ll6 in bed. I have a 6 headache. What should I do? I tried the

> > face in an ice bowl....didn't work....I felt I could drown!!!!!!!

> > Doesn't afib cause remodeling of the heart and long-term

> > is ...........!!Somebody please give me relevant

information....I

> am

> > very very anxious and afraid even after taking Paxil for two

> > afternoons, I have to wait until it kicks in which will take

> another

> > 5 days. Going to see my Cardiologist again at one today at l PM

> > Thanks, Isabelle

>

> Hi, Isabelle,

>

> I would not worry too much about your heart remodeling itself. We

> have had people in here who have been in afib for month(s?) and

then

> have gone back into sinus. I believe , who has now been in

sinus

> for what, two months? had a very long episode like that.

>

> The (very) long term thing you are probably referring to is the

heart

> can stretch. However, that will reverse itself once you go back

into

> sinus.

>

> I have never found anything like the ice water etc. to put me back

> into sinus. For me, it's just more beta blocker to suppress some

of

> the extra beats that contribute to afib, and also to slow my heart

> rate, and trying to rest and relax.

>

> Why don't you ask the cardiologist this afternoon what he or she

> plans to help bring you out of this?

>

> How does this compare to your previous episodes of afib?

>

> I will make a guess that the tenancy work and stress of the

accident

> may have interrupted your transition back to sinus, and now you

just

> need longer to transition. I know that after I have been fibbing,

it

> takes about a week of being very careful before I am solidly in

> sinus. Up to then, the least little thing will start me having

> little episodes.

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Hi: I saw my Card. he was much more friendly and told me I had

atrial tachycardia and that was slightly less dangerous than afib.

He also increased my Coumadin to l0mg tonight and 7.5mg from now

until next Wednesday....My INR was l.40. Also he upped my Aspirin

to 325mg daily. He plans to hospitalize me if I still have a.

tachycardia to electroconvert me.

Thanks so much for your time and I cannot tell you how much your

great support is helping me. Regards, Isabelle

> > I am still in AFIB. I am still in AFIB since Thursday...pulse

is

> at

> > ll6 in bed. I have a 6 headache. What should I do? I tried the

> > face in an ice bowl....didn't work....I felt I could drown!!!!!!!

> > Doesn't afib cause remodeling of the heart and long-term

> > is ...........!!Somebody please give me relevant

information....I

> am

> > very very anxious and afraid even after taking Paxil for two

> > afternoons, I have to wait until it kicks in which will take

> another

> > 5 days. Going to see my Cardiologist again at one today at l PM

> > Thanks, Isabelle

>

> Hi, Isabelle,

>

> I would not worry too much about your heart remodeling itself. We

> have had people in here who have been in afib for month(s?) and

then

> have gone back into sinus. I believe , who has now been in

sinus

> for what, two months? had a very long episode like that.

>

> The (very) long term thing you are probably referring to is the

heart

> can stretch. However, that will reverse itself once you go back

into

> sinus.

>

> I have never found anything like the ice water etc. to put me back

> into sinus. For me, it's just more beta blocker to suppress some

of

> the extra beats that contribute to afib, and also to slow my heart

> rate, and trying to rest and relax.

>

> Why don't you ask the cardiologist this afternoon what he or she

> plans to help bring you out of this?

>

> How does this compare to your previous episodes of afib?

>

> I will make a guess that the tenancy work and stress of the

accident

> may have interrupted your transition back to sinus, and now you

just

> need longer to transition. I know that after I have been fibbing,

it

> takes about a week of being very careful before I am solidly in

> sinus. Up to then, the least little thing will start me having

> little episodes.

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Hi : Thanks for your patience and your posts ----- it is

about 9:30 PM eastern time. I am much calmer tonite but my pulse is

still at l06 bpm. I just found out that my crit is at 48...and with

my iod I should have it at 42.....because my blood is so thick...it

might clot more easily. It is now about 8 months since my last

phleb.

The information you give me is reassuring. I am so happy to know

you and that you are in nsr. Regards. Isabelle

> In a message dated 8/28/2002 3:19:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> forestbedell@h... writes:

>

> << I had

> atrial tachycardia and that was slightly less dangerous than

afib.

> He also increased my Coumadin to l0mg tonight and 7.5mg from now

> until next Wednesday....My INR was l.40. Also he upped my

Aspirin

> to 325mg daily. >>

> Isabel,

> If I were you, I would think about eating fewer green vegetables

(if you are

> eating large amounts now) and adding fish and vitamin E to your

diet. I have

> found those strategies helpful in raising my INR and lowering my

Coumadin

> dose. However, it's better to take a large dose of Coumadin if

you need it

> than to have a stroke!

>

> Also, all the doctors I have seen have said that afib is not

dangerous in

> itself. I think much of your anxiety may arise from your

perception of afib

> as being dangerous. If it were dangerous, my older brother and I

would be

> dead by now. He went in and out of afib for a long time before he

finally

> settled into permanent afib at least twenty years ago. When you

have lived

> with afib as long as we have, it's hard to think of it as

dangerous. I think

> of afib as a nuisance which forces me to live my life with many

constraints,

> but I never think of it as a killer. Afib won't kill you, and the

Coumadin

> is protecting you against the stroke that could kill you. You

really don't

> have a reason to be anxious!

> in Seattle

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Hi : Thanks for your patience and your posts ----- it is

about 9:30 PM eastern time. I am much calmer tonite but my pulse is

still at l06 bpm. I just found out that my crit is at 48...and with

my iod I should have it at 42.....because my blood is so thick...it

might clot more easily. It is now about 8 months since my last

phleb.

The information you give me is reassuring. I am so happy to know

you and that you are in nsr. Regards. Isabelle

> In a message dated 8/28/2002 3:19:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> forestbedell@h... writes:

>

> << I had

> atrial tachycardia and that was slightly less dangerous than

afib.

> He also increased my Coumadin to l0mg tonight and 7.5mg from now

> until next Wednesday....My INR was l.40. Also he upped my

Aspirin

> to 325mg daily. >>

> Isabel,

> If I were you, I would think about eating fewer green vegetables

(if you are

> eating large amounts now) and adding fish and vitamin E to your

diet. I have

> found those strategies helpful in raising my INR and lowering my

Coumadin

> dose. However, it's better to take a large dose of Coumadin if

you need it

> than to have a stroke!

>

> Also, all the doctors I have seen have said that afib is not

dangerous in

> itself. I think much of your anxiety may arise from your

perception of afib

> as being dangerous. If it were dangerous, my older brother and I

would be

> dead by now. He went in and out of afib for a long time before he

finally

> settled into permanent afib at least twenty years ago. When you

have lived

> with afib as long as we have, it's hard to think of it as

dangerous. I think

> of afib as a nuisance which forces me to live my life with many

constraints,

> but I never think of it as a killer. Afib won't kill you, and the

Coumadin

> is protecting you against the stroke that could kill you. You

really don't

> have a reason to be anxious!

> in Seattle

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There is still another side effect I experiece while taking

Tambocor : I have difficultly sleeping at night throughout the whole

night.

I wake up at least 4 to 6 times a night, often with a fast heart

rate.

I didn't have this before.

Don't know if it is caused by Tambocor but I think it might.

Maura

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Hi: I am experiencing the same thing with Tambocor...I have been

on it since July 4th. The literature states that Tambocor seems to

disrupt the sleep pattern....I too wake up about 3-4 times during

the night and I have atrial tachycardia since last Thursday. How

long have you been on Tamb.? I think maybe my Card. may switch

me to another med if I still have at.tachyc. next week. I don't

know whether I helped with this information.Isabelle.---

In AFIBsupport@y..., " mauraparker1 " <maura@p...> wrote:

> There is still another side effect I experiece while taking

> Tambocor : I have difficultly sleeping at night throughout the

whole

> night.

> I wake up at least 4 to 6 times a night, often with a fast heart

> rate.

> I didn't have this before.

> Don't know if it is caused by Tambocor but I think it might.

>

> Maura

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The antiarhythmic and beta blocker drugs are known to interupt the bodies

natural uptake of seratonin. When it goes dark seratonin is converted into

melatonin. IF there is not enough seratonin (the happy chemical) then sleep

will be disrupted. This is my over simplified version of a very complex

action that happens in the body. But it was perhaps the one of the more

major side effects that stopped me taking meds. My Dr suggested taking

antidepressants to help me out of this, but I didn't want them. IF a tablet

causes it, then the trade in symptoms in my book is not worth it. I do it

all by diet now.

Fran

Re: Tambocor

> Hi: I am experiencing the same thing with Tambocor...I have been

> on it since July 4th. The literature states that Tambocor seems to

> disrupt the sleep pattern....I too wake up about 3-4 times during

> the night and I have atrial tachycardia since last Thursday. How

> long have you been on Tamb.? I think maybe my Card. may switch

> me to another med if I still have at.tachyc. next week. I don't

> know whether I helped with this information.Isabelle.---

>

>

>

> In AFIBsupport@y..., " mauraparker1 " <maura@p...> wrote:

> > There is still another side effect I experiece while taking

> > Tambocor : I have difficultly sleeping at night throughout the

> whole

> > night.

> > I wake up at least 4 to 6 times a night, often with a fast heart

> > rate.

> > I didn't have this before.

> > Don't know if it is caused by Tambocor but I think it might.

> >

> > Maura

>

>

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