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Were you at the Mito conference last month? We were there and I thought

it was really helpful and well put together. Cohen is already talking

about putting on part two! told him to let her get back

settled-she is such a great person and has been such a blessing to us

through all of Audreys hospitalizations! Jill

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Were you at the Mito conference last month? We were there and I thought

it was really helpful and well put together. Cohen is already talking

about putting on part two! told him to let her get back

settled-she is such a great person and has been such a blessing to us

through all of Audreys hospitalizations! Jill

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Were you at the Mito conference last month? We were there and I thought

it was really helpful and well put together. Cohen is already talking

about putting on part two! told him to let her get back

settled-she is such a great person and has been such a blessing to us

through all of Audreys hospitalizations! Jill

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> Were you at the Mito conference last month?

Yes I was, I worked at the reception table for a while. I was the one withthe

southern accent. I was in

the second row on the left up front.

> We were there and I thought it was really helpful and well put together.

Yes I thought it was great. He was very positive and informative. It was a

wonderful presentation for

his patients and would be great if every family that got a mito diagnosis could

attend.

I was very appreciative of both his and Hillary's effort to do that for all of

his patients. He is

definately a dedicated doc.

> Cohen is already talking about putting on part two!

That would be great. I know that he is also looking forward to the UMDF

conference there next year. But

I would be equally interested in part II of his presentation. Have you heard

anything about the video?

Jeannine

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> Were you at the Mito conference last month?

Yes I was, I worked at the reception table for a while. I was the one withthe

southern accent. I was in

the second row on the left up front.

> We were there and I thought it was really helpful and well put together.

Yes I thought it was great. He was very positive and informative. It was a

wonderful presentation for

his patients and would be great if every family that got a mito diagnosis could

attend.

I was very appreciative of both his and Hillary's effort to do that for all of

his patients. He is

definately a dedicated doc.

> Cohen is already talking about putting on part two!

That would be great. I know that he is also looking forward to the UMDF

conference there next year. But

I would be equally interested in part II of his presentation. Have you heard

anything about the video?

Jeannine

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brandon Wells wrote:

> Were you at the Mito conference last month?

Yes I was, I worked at the reception table for a while. I was the one withthe

southern accent. I was in

the second row on the left up front.

> We were there and I thought it was really helpful and well put together.

Yes I thought it was great. He was very positive and informative. It was a

wonderful presentation for

his patients and would be great if every family that got a mito diagnosis could

attend.

I was very appreciative of both his and Hillary's effort to do that for all of

his patients. He is

definately a dedicated doc.

> Cohen is already talking about putting on part two!

That would be great. I know that he is also looking forward to the UMDF

conference there next year. But

I would be equally interested in part II of his presentation. Have you heard

anything about the video?

Jeannine

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No, I haven't hard a thing about the video. Cohen said the UMDF

conference was going to be held at the IX center next summer. Have you

heard about that clnical trial that's supposed to be in the next UMDF

newsletter? I can't remember the name but it's a nucleatide that's

supposd to help with the function of the respiratory chain complex.

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No, I haven't hard a thing about the video. Cohen said the UMDF

conference was going to be held at the IX center next summer. Have you

heard about that clnical trial that's supposed to be in the next UMDF

newsletter? I can't remember the name but it's a nucleatide that's

supposd to help with the function of the respiratory chain complex.

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,

I don't think anyone is trying to ostracize you or rebut what you

said. The original post was about Dr. Cohen and a question was asked.

---------------------

From: bjawells@... (brandon Wells)

Hi! Just wondering how many others out there are seeing Dr. Cohen at

the

Cleveland Clinic? We were lucky to meet him because she was

hospitalized

there so many times with seizures-then he decided to test her for

mito.

Thanks Jill

-------------------------------

You commented as is your right, but so did others..... I am sorry

that you have not had a positive experience, and it is definitely your

right to acknowledge your thoughts about it, just as it is our right

to acknowledge our experience or answer the question according to our

experience.

Please don't take it personally, as I am sure that no one intended for

their comments to be taken that way. A question was asked and several

people answered it, that's all.

Jeannine

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,

I don't think anyone is trying to ostracize you or rebut what you said. The

original post was about Dr. Cohen and a question was asked.

---------------------

From: bjawells@... (brandon Wells)

Hi! Just wondering how many others out there are seeing Dr. Cohen at the

Cleveland Clinic? We were lucky to meet him because she was hospitalized

there so many times with seizures-then he decided to test her for mito.

Thanks Jill

-------------------------------

You commented as is your right, but so did others..... I am sorry that you

have not had a positive experience, and it is definitely your right to

acknowledge your thoughts about it, just as it is our right to acknowledge our

experience or answer the question according to our experience.

Please don't take it personally, as I am sure that no one intended for their

comments to be taken that way. A question was asked and several people answered

it, that's all.

Jeannine

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Jeannine, Actually I am very certain Dr. Cohen is interested in the

connection between ADHD and mito. You probably never knew that as it wasn't

something you had an interest in. And as far as I know many of the other

mito specialists are too. So I'll just continue to be persistent in my quest

for care. I can be very assertive and persistent if necessary as you know.

And if you can't succeed one way then go at it another. As you can tell, I'm

not the type to give up easily.

And I'm sure Dr. Cohen would like to think his expertise could help anyone

who needed help whether you were his patient or not. I doubt he figures

anyone who isn't his patient is any less important or in need of help for

their illnesses. And as everyone on this list knows many many with mito

disorders are not diagnosed yet. When you are as kind and caring and

intelligent a man as that you would want to help anyone you could. After

all, he doesn't have time to treat the whole world, does he? He sounds like

a humble man too-that is admirable. But I'll bet he is flattered that many

people would be interested and benefit from his work and knowledge.

Thanks so much for your reply. S.

Dr. Cohen

>

>

> wrote:

>

>> I also know now that perhaps it would be helpful for me to let him know

the

>> reason I thought he may be interested in our family is because of the

>> possible connection between mito and ADHD which someone else suggested he

>> may be interested in.

>

>,.

>

>I may be wrong, but as far as I know, Dr. Cohen doesn't have any special

interest in ADHD and mito. I've

>never heard that before. He does specialize in metabolic/mitochondrial

disease in children and does see

>adults with a confirmed diagnosis, as said. But in all the years

that he has been involved in

>Caitlin's care, I've not ever heard of any interest in ADHD.

>

>It was Dr. Shoffner that told me that he frequently saw ADD or ADHD in

siblings of those children that he

>saw in him mitochondrial evaluation. Could that be what you are thinking

about?

>

>> Do you or does anyone on this list know how to get video or written

>> information from his conferance for those of us who were not able to be

>> there in person?

>

>They are working on the video from the conference, but it is probably

several weeks away. Dr. Cohen also

>stressed that this was not intended to be a national conference, but merely

something that he was doing

>for the benefit of his patients. He really kind of down played it. But as

soon as I hear anything about

>the video, I will be sure to let you know.

>

>Jeannine

>

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Jeannine, Actually I am very certain Dr. Cohen is interested in the

connection between ADHD and mito. You probably never knew that as it wasn't

something you had an interest in. And as far as I know many of the other

mito specialists are too. So I'll just continue to be persistent in my quest

for care. I can be very assertive and persistent if necessary as you know.

And if you can't succeed one way then go at it another. As you can tell, I'm

not the type to give up easily.

And I'm sure Dr. Cohen would like to think his expertise could help anyone

who needed help whether you were his patient or not. I doubt he figures

anyone who isn't his patient is any less important or in need of help for

their illnesses. And as everyone on this list knows many many with mito

disorders are not diagnosed yet. When you are as kind and caring and

intelligent a man as that you would want to help anyone you could. After

all, he doesn't have time to treat the whole world, does he? He sounds like

a humble man too-that is admirable. But I'll bet he is flattered that many

people would be interested and benefit from his work and knowledge.

Thanks so much for your reply. S.

Dr. Cohen

>

>

> wrote:

>

>> I also know now that perhaps it would be helpful for me to let him know

the

>> reason I thought he may be interested in our family is because of the

>> possible connection between mito and ADHD which someone else suggested he

>> may be interested in.

>

>,.

>

>I may be wrong, but as far as I know, Dr. Cohen doesn't have any special

interest in ADHD and mito. I've

>never heard that before. He does specialize in metabolic/mitochondrial

disease in children and does see

>adults with a confirmed diagnosis, as said. But in all the years

that he has been involved in

>Caitlin's care, I've not ever heard of any interest in ADHD.

>

>It was Dr. Shoffner that told me that he frequently saw ADD or ADHD in

siblings of those children that he

>saw in him mitochondrial evaluation. Could that be what you are thinking

about?

>

>> Do you or does anyone on this list know how to get video or written

>> information from his conferance for those of us who were not able to be

>> there in person?

>

>They are working on the video from the conference, but it is probably

several weeks away. Dr. Cohen also

>stressed that this was not intended to be a national conference, but merely

something that he was doing

>for the benefit of his patients. He really kind of down played it. But as

soon as I hear anything about

>the video, I will be sure to let you know.

>

>Jeannine

>

>

>

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In a message dated 99-06-07 08:22:52 EDT, you write:

<< Well let me know what you find out , this is interesting! My

oldest child has ADD and is on medication for that. We've discussed

this many times and this is what lead me to the conclusion, because he

has never commented that it was a concern of his. But I may be wrong.

>>

Dear Jeannine:

I have met Dr. Cohen a few times, the most recent being the last

Mito-Conference held in PA. At that time I mentioned to Dr. Cohen that I was

getting a lot of calls from families with mitochondrial patients who clearly

had ADHD symptoms (I knew them because our own son, who happends to be

adopted, had ADHD). I asked him if he thought there might be a connection

between mito-disease and ADHD. He told me that he suspected that this was

the case and that he was seeing more and more mito-cases which included ADHD.

At the time I was Founder/Director of MDFA (Mitochondrial Disorders

Foundation of America, the first non-profit mito-foundation designed to serve

people with varying forms mitochondrial disease). I had an MDFA member from

Canada whos child had a mito disorder and strongly exhibited ADHD symptoms.

At that time Dr. Cohen told me he was interested in pursueing the connection

'tween mito & ADHD.

On a side note it would be interesting to look on the list that Dr.

Naviaux (UCSD's Mitochondrial and Metabolic Disease Center) produced and

published in the Ex. Parent Magizine a couple years ago in their

Mitochondrial series refering to the " Spectrum of Mitochondrial Disease " . On

this list things such as Lupis are included.

I think we will eventually see a connection- after all mito is motabolism and

energy at its most basic, and ADHD is a brain chemical issue NOT a behavioral

issue.

I, personally can't wait till they find the connection. Won't that make life

so much better for all!?

Lynnie

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Well let me know what you find out , this is interesting! My

oldest child has ADD and is on medication for that. We've discussed

this many times and this is what lead me to the conclusion, because he

has never commented that it was a concern of his. But I may be wrong.

As far as him not caring about people that aren't his patients, that

isn't the case. I am sure that he does care very much. But he has a

busy schedule, and many many patients of his own. He works long hours

and has a young family and there just aren't enough hours in the day

for him to be available to everyone. He just has a basic policy of

being available for consult for is patients - that is all I meant. He

does however consult with physicians, and he is still taking new

patients.

The reason that I can comment in this regard, is that I asked him

specifically about phone calls and contacts that he gets. This is

when he clarified.

Good luck,

Jeannine

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Well let me know what you find out , this is interesting! My

oldest child has ADD and is on medication for that. We've discussed

this many times and this is what lead me to the conclusion, because he

has never commented that it was a concern of his. But I may be wrong.

As far as him not caring about people that aren't his patients, that

isn't the case. I am sure that he does care very much. But he has a

busy schedule, and many many patients of his own. He works long hours

and has a young family and there just aren't enough hours in the day

for him to be available to everyone. He just has a basic policy of

being available for consult for is patients - that is all I meant. He

does however consult with physicians, and he is still taking new

patients.

The reason that I can comment in this regard, is that I asked him

specifically about phone calls and contacts that he gets. This is

when he clarified.

Good luck,

Jeannine

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Alrighty Jeannine. I will let you know anything I find out. I didn't realize

you had a child with ADD. Is it a boy or girl and is it hypo or hyper type

and what kind of medication if you don't mind answering these questions.

Have you or anyone on this list ever heard of the Amen Clinic or Dr. Amen?

Group,

Today is the surgeon for the mammogram and of course, I have a sick kid,

never fails, does it?

Feel like a loony tune going back and forth between it's probably nothing

and I will look like a fool for even worrying,

I'll probably be dieing and if so trying all the positive approachs in my

mind

and then all the negative approachs emerge,

and back to I'm sure there is nothing really more than a few cysts they will

aspirate or remove and that will be it and all this worry will be for

nothing-

so I will be most happy to have the next few weeks over with I'm sure. I

know I'm not unique in this situation no matter which way it goes. And I'm

sure this is one of those talk to him today, come back in a few weeks for

the biopsy stuff, another few weeks to hear from the lab, etc. By then I

will be full blown mentally off the globe, right? Thanks for all the support

by all of you & the prayers by whoever leans that way too. S.

I've even thought of a lot of jokes for this situation. I told my daughter

last night after all the long weeks they have taken to tend to this the

final thing they will tell me is they have finally got it diagnosed and are

very surprized to find this is one of those extremely rapid growing types,

etc. We laughed at life and doctors and ourselves. My 2 daughters and I also

make the joke maybe we will get some boobs out of this if I end up getting a

mastectomy and then they will need to to protect themselves so they will do

the same, ha ha ha. (We're all small chested.)

There is always something to laugh at even if it is only your own stupidity.

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>

>

>Well let me know what you find out , this is interesting! My

>oldest child has ADD and is on medication for that. We've discussed

>this many times and this is what lead me to the conclusion, because he

>has never commented that it was a concern of his. But I may be wrong.

>

>As far as him not caring about people that aren't his patients, that

>isn't the case. I am sure that he does care very much. But he has a

>busy schedule, and many many patients of his own. He works long hours

>and has a young family and there just aren't enough hours in the day

>for him to be available to everyone. He just has a basic policy of

>being available for consult for is patients - that is all I meant. He

>does however consult with physicians, and he is still taking new

>patients.

>

>The reason that I can comment in this regard, is that I asked him

>specifically about phone calls and contacts that he gets. This is

>when he clarified.

>

>Good luck,

>Jeannine

>

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Alrighty Jeannine. I will let you know anything I find out. I didn't realize

you had a child with ADD. Is it a boy or girl and is it hypo or hyper type

and what kind of medication if you don't mind answering these questions.

Have you or anyone on this list ever heard of the Amen Clinic or Dr. Amen?

Group,

Today is the surgeon for the mammogram and of course, I have a sick kid,

never fails, does it?

Feel like a loony tune going back and forth between it's probably nothing

and I will look like a fool for even worrying,

I'll probably be dieing and if so trying all the positive approachs in my

mind

and then all the negative approachs emerge,

and back to I'm sure there is nothing really more than a few cysts they will

aspirate or remove and that will be it and all this worry will be for

nothing-

so I will be most happy to have the next few weeks over with I'm sure. I

know I'm not unique in this situation no matter which way it goes. And I'm

sure this is one of those talk to him today, come back in a few weeks for

the biopsy stuff, another few weeks to hear from the lab, etc. By then I

will be full blown mentally off the globe, right? Thanks for all the support

by all of you & the prayers by whoever leans that way too. S.

I've even thought of a lot of jokes for this situation. I told my daughter

last night after all the long weeks they have taken to tend to this the

final thing they will tell me is they have finally got it diagnosed and are

very surprized to find this is one of those extremely rapid growing types,

etc. We laughed at life and doctors and ourselves. My 2 daughters and I also

make the joke maybe we will get some boobs out of this if I end up getting a

mastectomy and then they will need to to protect themselves so they will do

the same, ha ha ha. (We're all small chested.)

There is always something to laugh at even if it is only your own stupidity.

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>

>

>Well let me know what you find out , this is interesting! My

>oldest child has ADD and is on medication for that. We've discussed

>this many times and this is what lead me to the conclusion, because he

>has never commented that it was a concern of his. But I may be wrong.

>

>As far as him not caring about people that aren't his patients, that

>isn't the case. I am sure that he does care very much. But he has a

>busy schedule, and many many patients of his own. He works long hours

>and has a young family and there just aren't enough hours in the day

>for him to be available to everyone. He just has a basic policy of

>being available for consult for is patients - that is all I meant. He

>does however consult with physicians, and he is still taking new

>patients.

>

>The reason that I can comment in this regard, is that I asked him

>specifically about phone calls and contacts that he gets. This is

>when he clarified.

>

>Good luck,

>Jeannine

>

>

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> I didn't realize you had a child with ADD. Is it a boy or girl and is it hypo

or hyper type

> and what kind of medication if you don't mind answering these questions.

> Have you or anyone on this list ever heard of the Amen Clinic or Dr. Amen?

,

Dalton is 20 yrs old, ADD, LD, and Presumed Complex IV (have you ever noticed my

signature?). He is

hypoactive and was presumed to have narcolepsy as well. He took Cylert for

years with a fair improvement

in his symptoms; he took Ritalin for about a year in junior high, with not much

success because it wore

off too quickly. Combination of Ritalin and Cylert for a short period of time,

with no success as the

narcolepsy symptoms worsened along with the hypoactive symptoms. He was then

switched to Dexedrene, a

combination of long acting as well as short acting and literally came to life.

He is like a different kid

and has done well on it since then. He will likely take the dexedrene the rest

of his life.

No I haven't heard of the Amen clinic.

Jeannine, mom to

Dalton, 20 yrs, ADD, LD, Presumed Complex IV

Genny, 17 yrs, Dysautonomia, Presumed Complex IV

Caitlin, 11 yrs, Dysautonomia, CIDP, Complex IV.

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> I didn't realize you had a child with ADD. Is it a boy or girl and is it hypo

or hyper type

> and what kind of medication if you don't mind answering these questions.

> Have you or anyone on this list ever heard of the Amen Clinic or Dr. Amen?

,

Dalton is 20 yrs old, ADD, LD, and Presumed Complex IV (have you ever noticed my

signature?). He is

hypoactive and was presumed to have narcolepsy as well. He took Cylert for

years with a fair improvement

in his symptoms; he took Ritalin for about a year in junior high, with not much

success because it wore

off too quickly. Combination of Ritalin and Cylert for a short period of time,

with no success as the

narcolepsy symptoms worsened along with the hypoactive symptoms. He was then

switched to Dexedrene, a

combination of long acting as well as short acting and literally came to life.

He is like a different kid

and has done well on it since then. He will likely take the dexedrene the rest

of his life.

No I haven't heard of the Amen clinic.

Jeannine, mom to

Dalton, 20 yrs, ADD, LD, Presumed Complex IV

Genny, 17 yrs, Dysautonomia, Presumed Complex IV

Caitlin, 11 yrs, Dysautonomia, CIDP, Complex IV.

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