Guest guest Posted February 27, 2002 Report Share Posted February 27, 2002 I had the following discussion with someone off list and am reposting it here with permission of the original correspondent as it seemed like it would generally be of interest. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Then there's the fact that the supplements are a logistic nightmare. I >don't like mega-dosing in the first place, but then I find that I have to >glean from the index in about a dozen different places what is recommended >for supplements. >That's 22 different supplements that I need to purchase. I'll do you the favor of cutting it down to a few to start, and then listing what else to add in with some sort of priority order. Most important: >>C & B vitamins 4 x per day >>B - 12.5-25 mg 4 times a day. Quarter a " b-50 " or " b-100 " tablet with >>a pill cutter >> C - 5-20 mg per pound per dose (not day) of any buffered form, e. g. sodium >> ascorbate (100-250 mg vitamin C 4 times a day). Crunched up " gram 2 " tablets from The VItamin Shoppe have a bunch of other useful minerals in them. >>50 Magnesium several times a day -10 mg per lb, spread throughout day adjust if getting diarrhea >>Zinc spread out during day -1/4 to 1/2 mg per pound >> >>Vitamin A - 5 RDA's per day CLO is an OK source as are vitamin A supplements of any other kind (I realize there is some belief that only CLO has the " right " form of vitamin A, I don't have an opinion on this one way or the other). If you use CLO, add the vitamin E soon if not right away. >>Melantonin if he has trouble sleeping. Not otherwise. Good things to add later are: >>E vitamin 500 IU per day >>Selenium Selenium is best taken in the selenomethionine form, and >>reasonable dosages >>are 1-2 mcg per pound. >>Flaxseed or flax seed oil mixed in food (but not cooked). 1-3 tbsp a day. This is less important if you are using CLO as your source of vitamin A, especially if you use at least 25,000 IU of A from CLO. If he has dry skin then the flax seed or oil is more important than if it is otherwise. >>Milk Thistle 1/4-1 capsule 4x per day (what does that equal in mg?) >20-80/ >>Molybdenum - what is per pound dosage 5-20 mcg. Important if he has " sulfation " issues in terms of being sensitive to the kinds of things the Feingold diet excludes (if people babble on about " phenols " and " salicylates " and tell you foods to exclude that help, then this is important). >>mixed carotenes (Twinlabs and Vitamin Shoppe carotenoid complex) Skip these if he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 I was just reading this in the archives and thought I would bump it up for others to read if you haven't already. > > I had the following discussion with someone off list and am reposting > it here with permission of the original correspondent as it seemed > like it would generally be of interest. > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > >Then there's the fact that the supplements are a logistic nightmare. > I > >don't like mega-dosing in the first place, but then I find that I > have to > >glean from the index in about a dozen different places what is > recommended > >for supplements. > > >That's 22 different supplements that I need to purchase. > > I'll do you the favor of cutting it down to a few to start, and then > listing what else to add in with some sort of priority order. > > Most important: > > >>C & B vitamins 4 x per day > > >>B - 12.5-25 mg 4 times a day. Quarter a " b-50 " or " b-100 " tablet > with > >>a pill cutter > > >> C - 5-20 mg per pound per dose (not day) of any buffered > form, e. g. sodium > >> ascorbate (100-250 mg vitamin C 4 times a day). Crunched up " gram > 2 " tablets from The VItamin Shoppe have a bunch of other useful > minerals in them. > > > >>50 Magnesium several times a day -10 mg per lb, > spread throughout day adjust if getting diarrhea > > >>Zinc spread out during day -1/4 to 1/2 mg per pound > >> > >>Vitamin A - 5 RDA's per day CLO is an OK source as are vitamin A > supplements of any other kind (I realize there is some belief that > only CLO has the " right " form of vitamin A, I don't have an opinion on > this one way or the other). If you use CLO, add the vitamin E soon if > not right away. > > >>Melantonin if he has trouble sleeping. Not otherwise. > > > Good things to add later are: > > >>E vitamin 500 IU per day > > >>Selenium Selenium is best taken in the selenomethionine form, and > >>reasonable dosages > >>are 1-2 mcg per pound. > > >>Flaxseed or flax seed oil mixed in food (but not cooked). 1-3 tbsp > a day. This is less important if you are using CLO as your source of > vitamin A, especially if you use at least 25,000 IU of A from CLO. If > he has dry skin then the flax seed or oil is more important than if it > is otherwise. > > >>Milk Thistle 1/4-1 capsule 4x per day (what does that equal in > mg?) > >20-80/ > > >>Molybdenum - what is per pound dosage 5-20 mcg. Important if he has > " sulfation " issues in terms of being sensitive to the kinds of things > the Feingold diet excludes (if people babble on about " phenols " and > " salicylates " and tell you foods to exclude that help, then this is > important). > > >>mixed carotenes (Twinlabs and Vitamin Shoppe carotenoid complex) > Skip these if he is > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 I don't look at is as a nightmare but it is a logistical challenge to add as many things as my family needs. priorities for me for chelation: custom probiotics vitamin C cal mag vit E houstons trio of digestive enzymes These are the basics from what I remember. I started with the basics and things grew from there by individual need. Andy has a basics list for what is the least amount of stuff to take to chelate. Our family can't do the minimum. It would be so lucky if we could just fly through with the basic things but we would not be successful doing it that way. We have adrenal, yeast, bacteria and virus issues so we have to take a slew of other things to be able to chelate and we aren't there yet, but we are getting there. When my son got better from antibacterial treatment during andy cutler chelation, I took a chance and have treated myself and the other children for bartonella and it is fixing my adrenals. I knew ooo and grapeseed extract was fixing some bacteria problem but now I think we have identified the specific bacteria that is our problem. If we fix the low energy/adrenals we can begin chelating for the rest of us! It appears as though treatment for this bacteria is helping my adrenals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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