Re: Studies about cognitive ability

June 30, 2001

Pam,

I was checking e-bay for ketogenic books and find a weightlifting book

recommending the keto diet. It is also familiar to the atkins diet.

Dianna

Bob and Pam Dowen wrote:

"My

biggest question is how long were these folks on the ketogenic diet before

they did the test??? That would make

a big difference in how they performed

in my experience.

The site said some negative things

about the diet I didn't agree with, but

not too bad. I think it should be

one of the first lines of defense while

they are looking for a cause, not

just jump to the drugs and mask the cause

of the seizures.

Elaine"

**********

If you notice the site was prepared by a group of undergraduate biology students

at the U. of Illinois. Unfortunately you can't see the entire study.Since

there is so much mis-information about the Ketogenic Diet, I wouldn't put

too much weight on their reports. I also find it interesting that

there would be that

many adult woman actually on the diet. Since there are so few

really knowledgeable keto teams around - you do wonder how well managedthey

were. Pam Dowen

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July 1, 2001

I remember reading that site before. I believe that or a similar study on

cognitive

effects was discussed on the low carb technical list once. Except I am not sure

if it was

the same study because I don't believe it was a true keto diet as think of it,

ketogenic

diets are used for weight loss but the ketosis is not as deep as with our kids.

So maybe

it was the same, as someone said 20 adult woman on the keto diet, say what? My

geuss was

it was a ketogenic diet for weight loss, but not necessarily a true keto diet as

we think

of it. And would the effects be different in kids??

Anyway I think the on low carb list mentionned how long they had been on diet,

wasn't

very long, and we all know it takes our kids a while to adjust to ketosis,

wouldn't want

to be testing them for anything in the first few weeks or even month.

So I would tend to take the study with a grain, ummmm make that a few grams of

butter.

Of course that doesn't mean an individual child couldn't have negative cognitive

effects

from the diet, I think lowering the ratio if you see that is a good idea. But I

would

still slant more to protien rather than carb. Don't think anyone could write a

textbook

on our kids, they are all too different and make their own rules. I always say

jessica

never does anything by the book, if only I could just get her to read the book

then maybe

we would be okay LOL

, 's mom

Terry Krumrei wrote:

> Hi Everyone,

> I found that study on the diet and cognitive abilities. I copied and

> pasted the info , but there is alot more info on the sight if anyone is

> interested in how rats adapted to electric shock after being on the

> diet.

> Dianna

>

> http://icarus.cc.uic.edu/~ktao1/KETOFINAL2.htm

>

> Recent studies have shown that the ketogenic diet can effect cognitive

> ability. Researches at the University of Pennsylvania followed

> twenty-one women on the ketogenic diet and compared them against a

> control group. The two groups differed on a task with measured mental

> flexibility. Those on the ketogenic diet performed worse on the test,

> suggesting that the brain's performance suffers when adjusting to a

> lower blood sugar level. Another test was done using a double-blinded

> study in which it was found that people on the ketogenic diet performed

> worse than a control group of people on normal diets on a

> trail-making task. This task is a neurophysiological test that requires

> higher order mental processing and flexibility.

>

> " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last

resort! "

>

> List is for parent to parent support only.

> It is important to get medical advice from a professional

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July 1, 2001