Re: 'Misuse of Treatment Records'

[Guest guest]

Oops, that should be Sept. 28.

>Today's (Sept. 29) New York Times has an editorial on a Giuliani scheme

to...

[Guest guest]

Oops, that should be Sept. 28.

>Today's (Sept. 29) New York Times has an editorial on a Giuliani scheme

to...

[Guest guest]

Oops, that should be Sept. 28.

>Today's (Sept. 29) New York Times has an editorial on a Giuliani scheme

to...

[Guest guest]

I read this too. You forgot to mention what triggered this scheme --

the finding of far fewer drug dependent Medicaid mothers than they had

predicted.

In other words, they don't believe their own data. They believe their

" beliefs, " so to speak, and to hell with the facts.

Now their instrument may be flawed, as the article points out, but the

way around that is to revise the instrument, not perform an illegal

act. Yet they may get away with it, if they administer Medicaid in NYC

(unusual scenario, but it may be the case).

" wally t, " wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=8335

> Today's (Sept. 29) New York Times has an editorial on a Giuliani

scheme to

> raid Medicaid records, find out about the substance abuse treatment

> histories of welfare recipients, and use the info to force those with

any

> history of treatment into a program as a condition of eligibility for

> continued benefits. (You can read the ed. online at www.nytimes.com.)

>

> One comment that caught my eye was this: " Welfare advocates say that

half of

> all people who are required to enter mandatory treatment programs are

cut

> from all welfare aid because they fail to comply with program

requirements. "

> This is a good example of how AA can be used as a tool of oppression.

The

> fact that 12-step based treatment tends to turn people off and/or not

work

> is actually a plus if your objective is to find a pretext for cutting

> 'undesirables' out of the social safety net.

>

> Btw, it is well known that ethnic minorities find XA even less

appealing

> than 'white' folks do. (The explanation being that if you consider

yourself

> oppressed you tend not to be receptive to 'powerlessness',

'surrender', and

> all that.) Convenient, eh?

>

> --wally

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think it should actually be Sept. 27.

" wally t, " wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=8336

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> Oops, that should be Sept. 28.

>

> >Today's (Sept. 29) New York Times has an editorial on a Giuliani

scheme

> to...

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[Guest guest]

You're right. I sent a message earlier saying today is the 27th, &

that's because I kept thinking it was Monday all day.

" wally t, " wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=8336

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> Oops, that should be Sept. 28.

>

> >Today's (Sept. 29) New York Times has an editorial on a Giuliani

scheme

> to...

>

>

[Guest guest]

You're right. I sent a message earlier saying today is the 27th, &

that's because I kept thinking it was Monday all day.

" wally t, " wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=8336

>

>

> Oops, that should be Sept. 28.

>

> >Today's (Sept. 29) New York Times has an editorial on a Giuliani

scheme

> to...

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