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Given your age, your desire for children and the fact that currently it

appears you have only one fibroid, I think I might be inclined to vote with

your doctor on this one. While we know of several women who have

successfully conceived and delivered following UAE, at this point we just

don't know what percentage of women are likely to conceive and bring a

pregnancy to term following

UAE -- just not enough time to do the research and gather the statistics

yet. I understand your concern about other fibroids occuring following

myomectomy but again you have to remember that UAE has only been around for

less than 10 years, and only 5 in the US. While to date there has been no

published research concerning growth of new fibroids following successful

embolization, we just don't know what may show up 20 years down the road.

And if it does happen that you have regrowth of fibroids at a later date,

UAE at that time would always be an option for you.

My opinon is just that of another fibroid sufferer, but I have to say that

given your circumstances, I would be inclined to be conservative and go

with the procedure with a longer track record. I say this as someone who

did have a successful UAE and am very happy with the outcome, but I was 48

at the time I had it and had no plans to have children. Best of luck to

you, whatever your decision. Leonie

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I'm 24-years-old and have one big uterine fibroid embedded in my uterus. In

my opinion, my treatment options are limited because I'm so young. My

obgyn wants to do a myomectomy next month, but I really don't want to have

surgery. He has me on the Lupron shots now (which breaks me out in

heat flashes every half hour.) I really want to hear from people who have

had the embolization process done, or who are thinking about it. Some

doctors say I shouldn't have that done because of my age and because I

haven't had any kids yet---and don't want to for at least 5 years! (I

definately

want kids though.) But the odds of having another surgery for me are high

since it's likely that my fibroids will grow back because I'm so young!

Can anyone recommend an interventional radiologist in the Michigan area?

And on another note, I don't care what doctors or anyone else says, I truly

think the pill is the reason for my fibroid problems. I understand there

are no

studies on it, but I've been on the pill for over 6 years. No one in my

family has had problems like this, and I know lots of people on the pill

going

through the same problems most of us are. I just graduated from college two

years ago. While in college, I--like many female students--experienced

bad cramps. So the student health center freely gave anyone and everyone

pills. That's how most of my friends got started on the pill as well. It

pisses

me off to think about that. Just FYI.

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In a message dated 2/10/01 3:03:01 AM Eastern Standard Time,

lanisakai@... writes:

> Hi,

>

> I had a myomectomy in February 1999, and now fibroids are, yup, growing

back.

>

> But I'm still glad I had the myomectomy rather than UAE -- with

embolization,

>

> you can't really be sure where all those pellets go.

Hi Lanisakai,

In 1998, I heard the exact same statement from a Gynecologist-

" ....they shoot those particles in and no one knows where they go... "

Did you also hear the same from a physician, or from a website,

or former Patient? Thanks, Marsha

>

> Has anyone had more than one myomectomy in this group? So far I'm not

having

>

> the non-stop bleeding that I had before that February '99 surgery, so I

> think

> I'm still okay. My OB-GYN PUT me on the pill in hopes of putting the

fibroid

>

> growth " in check " -- can't say it's working, but I don't know what would

be

> happening if I wasn't on the pill (probably I'd be having very heavy

periods,

>

> which is also not good).

>

> Just went for an ultrasound this morning to see what's up, and have an

> appointment later this month to hear what the doctor has to say...

>

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In a message dated 2/10/01 3:03:01 AM Eastern Standard Time,

lanisakai@... writes:

> Hi,

>

> I had a myomectomy in February 1999, and now fibroids are, yup, growing

back.

>

> But I'm still glad I had the myomectomy rather than UAE -- with

embolization,

>

> you can't really be sure where all those pellets go.

Hi Lanisakai,

In 1998, I heard the exact same statement from a Gynecologist-

" ....they shoot those particles in and no one knows where they go... "

Did you also hear the same from a physician, or from a website,

or former Patient? Thanks, Marsha

>

> Has anyone had more than one myomectomy in this group? So far I'm not

having

>

> the non-stop bleeding that I had before that February '99 surgery, so I

> think

> I'm still okay. My OB-GYN PUT me on the pill in hopes of putting the

fibroid

>

> growth " in check " -- can't say it's working, but I don't know what would

be

> happening if I wasn't on the pill (probably I'd be having very heavy

periods,

>

> which is also not good).

>

> Just went for an ultrasound this morning to see what's up, and have an

> appointment later this month to hear what the doctor has to say...

>

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In a message dated 2/10/01 3:03:01 AM Eastern Standard Time,

lanisakai@... writes:

> Hi,

>

> I had a myomectomy in February 1999, and now fibroids are, yup, growing

back.

>

> But I'm still glad I had the myomectomy rather than UAE -- with

embolization,

>

> you can't really be sure where all those pellets go.

Hi Lanisakai,

In 1998, I heard the exact same statement from a Gynecologist-

" ....they shoot those particles in and no one knows where they go... "

Did you also hear the same from a physician, or from a website,

or former Patient? Thanks, Marsha

>

> Has anyone had more than one myomectomy in this group? So far I'm not

having

>

> the non-stop bleeding that I had before that February '99 surgery, so I

> think

> I'm still okay. My OB-GYN PUT me on the pill in hopes of putting the

fibroid

>

> growth " in check " -- can't say it's working, but I don't know what would

be

> happening if I wasn't on the pill (probably I'd be having very heavy

periods,

>

> which is also not good).

>

> Just went for an ultrasound this morning to see what's up, and have an

> appointment later this month to hear what the doctor has to say...

>

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Hi Silverfox,

Actually I think my father is who said the thing about not knowing where the

pellets go (he's a medical physiologist who worked in a hospital laboratory

and pretty well-read -- but sorry, I don't know where he may have gotten the

info from).

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In a message dated 2/12/01 2:32:32 AM Eastern Standard Time,

lanisakai@... writes:

> Hi Silverfox,

>

> Actually I think my father is who said the thing about not knowing where

the

>

> pellets go (he's a medical physiologist who worked in a hospital

laboratory

> and pretty well-read -- but sorry, I don't know where he may have gotten

the

>

> info from).

>

If you were considering UAE, I'm sure your father

meant well, bringing up misembolization, which

apparently has happened in a very minute part of

the population. I don't doubt for one minute

that he isn't well read--you are lucky to have him!

That's why it is so important

to have a very skilled, experienced Interventional

Radiologist that can determine whether or not

the location, type of fibroid(s) are conducive

to UAE. And something I didn't mention--intense

follow-up of Patients that Bonnie brought home

so very clearly in her post.

That goes for all physicians, for all

procedures for that matter--the best training, experience, skill level, good

coordination with their staff, good

medical setting which is very proactive in preventing

medical mistakes. Patients need every advantage in

their favor to increase the percentage of a favorable

outcome.

But, medicine isn't perfect. I knew that when

I underwent UAE. I knew UAE was a new procedure. I was

willing to take the risk knowing if it failed, I might

have to try something else. Thousands of other women

had good outcomes--plus 80%, 20% didn't. I'm sorry

I wish they had better results. For hysterectomized

women, the morbidity rates are higher, something like

40%. Prior to knowing about UAE, I'd had my veins

stripped--past thrombosis, was preparing myself

physically and psychically for a hysterectomy. But

for the internet and the women of Sans-Uteri, I would

have had a hysterectomy.

Fortunately there are people like Carla Dionne

and Beth Tiner of Sans-Uteri making a difference in medicine--challenging the

medical community to do better--evaluate procedures, establish protocols,

communicate between specialties, elevate the status of Patient from one who

has traditionally been acted upon by medicine to Patient they act with for

the most optimal care.

Future Women Patients will certainly benefit from

Carla's & Beth's leadership and all of our collective experience and

advocacy...

Best wishes,

Marsha

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